Could the Thylacine(Tasmanian Tiger) possibly be added?

[florble mcfumperdink]

I'm asking this question because although it was previously thought that it had been extinct for almost 90 years, there's been recent sightings of them on the Island of Tasmania. Because of this I've been wondering if it could be included in like a "Back From the Dead" DLC animal pack with other animals that had previously been thought to be extinct.

[Nova]

Its dead, don't trust people from Tassie. If they get hard proof it exists then sure but mere falsified rumours isn't enough to consider an animal alive/real, see Yeti, Nessy etc. These Tasmanians say things like "you just have to know where to look", well then show someone credible.

I really hope no extinct animals ever get added.

[Nats]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nova:

Its dead, don't trust people from Tassie. If they get hard proof it exists then sure but mere falsified rumours isn't enough to consider an animal alive/real, see Yeti, Nessy etc. These Tasmanians say things like "you just have to know where to look", well then show someone credible.

I really hope no extinct animals ever get added.

Its very likely they will do an extinct animals dlc for people who want those, the previous Zoo games did. Personally I don't like them much either.

[Infinivex]

i wouldn't mind an extinct animal DLC with like the mammals and birds and stuff of the past but i don't think they will do any dinosaurs because of JWE

[PFC Hyttel [29th Ret.]]

I don't think extinct animals will be a feature in this game......

My personal opinion is that I would prefere a zoo game without the possibility of dinosaurs or sabertooth tigers :)

[The Former]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nova:

Its dead, don't trust people from Tassie. If they get hard proof it exists then sure but mere falsified rumours isn't enough to consider an animal alive/real, see Yeti, Nessy etc. These Tasmanians say things like "you just have to know where to look", well then show someone credible.

I really hope no extinct animals ever get added.

Fair, but some animals exist only in captivity. If the thylacine went extinct recently enough that it's in question, they could easily still exist in captivity (even if they don't IRL).

[florble mcfumperdink]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nova:

Its dead, don't trust people from Tassie. If they get hard proof it exists then sure but mere falsified rumours isn't enough to consider an animal alive/real, see Yeti, Nessy etc. These Tasmanians say things like "you just have to know where to look", well then show someone credible.

I really hope no extinct animals ever get added.

Fair, but some animals exist only in captivity. If the thylacine went extinct recently enough that it's in question, they could easily still exist in captivity (even if they don't IRL).

To be totally honest I would love to see animals that were thought to have been extinct but actually weren't and were re-found like the Zanzibar Leopard or that one species of tortoise from the Galapagos that was only seen once like 100 years ago until they found one alive like 7 or 8 months ago, and maybe even that one weird ground bird that re-evolved itself back into existence.

Speaking of the Tasmanian Tiger, evidently over the last three years there's been several sightings of them on the Cape York Peninsula in mainland Australia despite the general consensus being that they had gone extinct on mainland Australia over 2,000 years ago.

After all, it isn't impossible that an animal thought to be extinct 83 years ago could still be alive, in the much more hostile arid interior the "Night Parrot" was photographed by a trail camera even though it was thought to have gone extinct in the late 1800s/early 1900s/

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/mar/28/tasmanian-tiger-sighting-search-thylacine-queensland-australia
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-10-16/thylacine-sightings-in-tasmania-revealed-in-rti/11602970

These are links to two news websites regarding the sightings of ol' stripey, read them if you're feeling curious.

[tambaloneus]

Every local thinks they've seen one, no evidence has yet emerged. As much as I'd love for them to have survived somehow (I'm tasmanian) they're not so tiny that they could hide that easily, particularly a viable population.

HOwever - I totally agree I'd love to see them in game! Why not some of the 'lost'? So we can see what we've lost & maybe educate ppl at the same time (they could come with a little story about what happened to each species).

[frontlinehistorian]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nova:

Its dead, don't trust people from Tassie. If they get hard proof it exists then sure but mere falsified rumours isn't enough to consider an animal alive/real, see Yeti, Nessy etc. These Tasmanians say things like "you just have to know where to look", well then show someone credible.

I really hope no extinct animals ever get added.

i never fully understand why people always say they hope no extinct animal ever gets added in games like these, it could be a really cool feature added in, and lets face it zoos will within the next 200 years will have some form of such animals. and honestly the same old song and dance animals gets boring too 'great more lions, more crocs, and more bears' games like these can expand greatly past the overused basic animal choices now by using lesser known creatures in the past and even almost unheard of recently found animals.

[Nova]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από frontlinehistorian:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nova:

Its dead, don't trust people from Tassie. If they get hard proof it exists then sure but mere falsified rumours isn't enough to consider an animal alive/real, see Yeti, Nessy etc. These Tasmanians say things like "you just have to know where to look", well then show someone credible.

I really hope no extinct animals ever get added.

i never fully understand why people always say they hope no extinct animal ever gets added in games like these, it could be a really cool feature added in, and lets face it zoos will within the next 200 years will have some form of such animals. and honestly the same old song and dance animals gets boring too 'great more lions, more crocs, and more bears' games like these can expand greatly past the overused basic animal choices now by using lesser known creatures in the past and even almost unheard of recently found animals.

1: from a realism point they are dead and don't exist any more. If an animal is currently extinct in the wild but alive in captivity then sure add them. There are plenty of them.

2: from a conservation point it is better to have real life animals that are critically endangered. I agree that not all animals have to be well know and would really like it if they threw a few oddballs in there that people actually have to read about to know what they are. Again, there are plenty of these animals without having to go back into the past.

3: If they are going to do anything with Thylacine or other extinct animals I would rather they be statues so you can show what once was and how over hunting or habitat destruction removed them from the world. I don't think having a fake living animal would have nearly the same impact.

4: If they are spending time on adding extinct animals that's time spent not developing animals that are critically endangered, alive and interesting with actual facts to prove how they act.

5: Where do they stop? Maybe they should add giant kangaroo, marsupial lions, diprotodon etc. Stuff a AU DLC just replace them with long extinct megafauna, how about dinosaurs, add them too? What about lock ness, people swear that's a real animal and then once you're adding that might as well add dragons and unicorns because why not. Why wouldn't you want it?


So I hope I've made myself clear why I hope they don't do it, the biggest reason is probably 4, I am not interest in extinct animals because if I want a fantasy game I'll play JWE. If they develop a fairy tale DLC that's one less good DLC and I wont buy it. You can though and I am fine with that. However I will voice my disgust with the idea prior to them, imo, wasting time and resources on it. If it comes out, you do you, enjoy your fake animal DLC.

[PFC Hyttel [29th Ret.]]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από Nova:

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από frontlinehistorian:

i never fully understand why people always say they hope no extinct animal ever gets added in games like these, it could be a really cool feature added in, and lets face it zoos will within the next 200 years will have some form of such animals. and honestly the same old song and dance animals gets boring too 'great more lions, more crocs, and more bears' games like these can expand greatly past the overused basic animal choices now by using lesser known creatures in the past and even almost unheard of recently found animals.

1: from a realism point they are dead and don't exist any more. If an animal is currently extinct in the wild but alive in captivity then sure add them. There are plenty of them.

2: from a conservation point it is better to have real life animals that are critically endangered. I agree that not all animals have to be well know and would really like it if they threw a few oddballs in there that people actually have to read about to know what they are. Again, there are plenty of these animals without having to go back into the past.

3: If they are going to do anything with Thylacine or other extinct animals I would rather they be statues so you can show what once was and how over hunting or habitat destruction removed them from the world. I don't think having a fake living animal would have nearly the same impact.

4: If they are spending time on adding extinct animals that's time spent not developing animals that are critically endangered, alive and interesting with actual facts to prove how they act.

5: Where do they stop? Maybe they should add giant kangaroo, marsupial lions, diprotodon etc. Stuff a AU DLC just replace them with long extinct megafauna, how about dinosaurs, add them too? What about lock ness, people swear that's a real animal and then once you're adding that might as well add dragons and unicorns because why not. Why wouldn't you want it?


So I hope I've made myself clear why I hope they don't do it, the biggest reason is probably 4, I am not interest in extinct animals because if I want a fantasy game I'll play JWE. If they develop a fairy tale DLC that's one less good DLC and I wont buy it. You can though and I am fine with that. However I will voice my disgust with the idea prior to them, imo, wasting time and resources on it. If it comes out, you do you, enjoy your fake animal DLC.

Amen!

[tambaloneus]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από frontlinehistorian:

5: Where do they stop? Maybe they should add giant kangaroo, marsupial lions, diprotodon etc. Stuff a AU DLC just replace them with long extinct megafauna, how about dinosaurs, add them too? What about lock ness, people swear that's a real animal and then once you're adding that might as well add dragons and unicorns because why not. Why wouldn't you want it?

I would totally buy all those DLC. Megafauna would be fun as heck to have. I play games to have fun and if i think something gonna be fun I'll buy more of it. Nobody's forcing anyone to put a unicorn in their zoo if they don't want it.

I don't care if they add DLC I'm not interested in, I'll just buy the ones I like. I hope they do add some unique and fun animals (though I doubt they'll add fantasy animals, realism aside it would just create too many arguments from nerds who think they know how unicorns eat or giant whiny slapfights about dragon scales or whatever).

[tambaloneus]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από frontlinehistorian:

i never fully understand why people always say they hope no extinct animal ever gets added in games like these, it could be a really cool feature added in, and lets face it zoos will within the next 200 years will have some form of such animals. and honestly the same old song and dance animals gets boring too 'great more lions, more crocs, and more bears' games like these can expand greatly past the overused basic animal choices now by using lesser known creatures in the past and even almost unheard of recently found animals.

It's not going to be long, sadly, before any game with a rhino in it is "unrealistic" so yeh - sooner or later they'll be there. I love the idea of lesser known animals, why not give them some love too. Some of them are pretty amazing. (actually all of them are amazing, just some are amazing in new ways)

I hope there's a few birds there too. Parrots are always hilarious to watch. Lyre bird doing weird noises would be goofy & fun (particularly if it started copying noises from anything in the surrounding exhibits).

[Nova]

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από tambaloneus:

I would totally buy all those DLC. Megafauna would be fun as heck to have. I play games to have fun and if i think something gonna be fun I'll buy more of it. Nobody's forcing anyone to put a unicorn in their zoo if they don't want it.

I don't care if they add DLC I'm not interested in, I'll just buy the ones I like. I hope they do add some unique and fun animals (though I doubt they'll add fantasy animals, realism aside it would just create too many arguments from nerds who think they know how unicorns eat or giant whiny slapfights about dragon scales or whatever).

I clearly said why I don't want them to waste the time and if they do create crap DLC I won't buy them but people are free to enjoy them. You know, the whole you do you thing.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από tambaloneus:

It's not going to be long, sadly, before any game with a rhino in it is "unrealistic" so yeh - sooner or later they'll be there.

Southern White rhino went from being thought extinct to 20,000 of them, their numbers are on the increase and saying otherwise is nothing more than a lie. Same is true for polar bears, many say there are only a handful left yet the best research puts the number at 30000+ and thriving. Life has the incredible ability to bounce back and Chernobyl is a testimonial to this.

This whole thread is based on the premise that thylacine are still alive even though they were declared extinct in the 30s

[florble mcfumperdink]

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Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από tambaloneus:

I would totally buy all those DLC. Megafauna would be fun as heck to have. I play games to have fun and if i think something gonna be fun I'll buy more of it. Nobody's forcing anyone to put a unicorn in their zoo if they don't want it.

I don't care if they add DLC I'm not interested in, I'll just buy the ones I like. I hope they do add some unique and fun animals (though I doubt they'll add fantasy animals, realism aside it would just create too many arguments from nerds who think they know how unicorns eat or giant whiny slapfights about dragon scales or whatever).

I clearly said why I don't want them to waste the time and if they do create crap DLC I won't buy them but people are free to enjoy them. You know, the whole you do you thing.

Αναρτήθηκε αρχικά από tambaloneus:

It's not going to be long, sadly, before any game with a rhino in it is "unrealistic" so yeh - sooner or later they'll be there.

Southern White rhino went from being thought extinct to 20,000 of them, their numbers are on the increase and saying otherwise is nothing more than a lie. Same is true for polar bears, many say there are only a handful left yet the best research puts the number at 30000+ and thriving. Life has the incredible ability to bounce back and Chernobyl is a testimonial to this.

This whole thread is based on the premise that thylacine are still alive even though they were declared extinct in the 30s

Well it isn't impossible that it could still be alive, after all a good example of an animal on an island coming back from the dead are that one species of tortoise in the Galapagos that was only spotted once or twice over 100 years ago but a living female of that species was discovered in a dormant volcanic crater. However, a relatively small, slow-moving tortoise going unnoticed on a well protected isolated tropical island thick with bush-cover isn't very surprising.

That being said, it isn't impossible for a larger animal to remain hidden in the shadows of a tropical island similar to Tasmania. The Zanzibar leopard was thought to have gone extinct almost 30 years ago in the 90s, but a adult individual was seen on a trail camera in 2017/2018.

The generally (rather unrealistically hopeful) point that I am making is that populations of wild animals do have a rather curious capability to disappear when the want to and proceed to go undetected for long stretches of time, a prime example being the Okapi which was (and still is) so elusive it was believed to be a mythical creature up until one was found and killed (keep in mind back then the only way to do non-behavioral studies on wild animals at the time was to shoot it and investigate its body) at the end of the 19th century.

Following that singular individual being found and shot, no Okapis were found for decades making the world presume it was extinct until there were some confirmed sightings just prior to WWII. Then, yet again, there were no Okapis and no signs of any of them found for years. Eventually we figured out where they sometimes merrily frolic around in the Congo and they are now considered a low data species vulnerable to habitat loss.

Now, if an 8 or 9 foot tall 1,800 pound forest Giraffe can disappear so well that even the native peoples have significant issues finding it, then a medium-sized dog-like carnivorous marsupial could too. I personally don't know which side to take regarding if the Thylacine is still alive today, but I do believe that there were still a few around for a good while after their supposed extinction in 1933, especially since farmers in Tasmania reported seeing small striped orange dog-looking creatures attacking their sheep, chickens, and geese on occasion in the middle of the night clear up until the mid 50s when the sightings stopped all-together.

TLDR: Animals have a thing for disappearing on a whim, some larger animals like the Zanzibar Leopard and the Okapi have done this so well that they were declared extinct because none were found, meaning there is a possibility that the Tazzy Tiger may have stuck around for a bit after the declaration of its extinction in the early 1930s, but sadly is probably no longer with us.

[TheCatInGrey]

Well, now that people have figured out how to add animals without replacing existing ones, you seem to have gotten your wish, even if it's not official: https://youtu.be/_5jeYOElOMU