SCP: Secret Laboratory

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Ender Jun 1, 2023 @ 10:56am
Does Northwood even care about the game anymore?
People have been complaining about the optimization of the game for years now. Northwood has promised to fix the performance of the game with every update they release, but so far they have done the exact opposite. In the 13.0 Update they made changes that nobody asked for such as changing the achievements and they also made the lighting of the game more resource intensive. Tons of players have been complaining about SCP 096, suggesting that he should either get reworked completely or outright removed and yet he didn't receive a single change in the 13.0 Update. I would like to hear your thoughts.
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SpiderGlitch Jun 1, 2023 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Combine:
they made changes that nobody asked for such as changing the achievements
Many, many people were asking for this as some achivements were broken completely (106's femur) and others 'rewarded' bad gameplay (dying to tesla or 173)

Originally posted by Combine:
People have been complaining about the optimization of the game for years now. Northwood has promised to fix the performance of the game with every update they release, but so far they have done the exact opposite.
I mean, for me performance has definitely increased. I think the larger problem is the infrequency of updates, which makes it feel like they aren't optimizing simply because they aren't updating at all for large amounts of time

Originally posted by Combine:
Tons of players have been complaining about SCP 096, suggesting that he should either get reworked completely or outright removed and yet he didn't receive a single change in the 13.0 Update.
I'm in favor of replacing 096 with another crowd-control SCP (like SCP-323), but from what I see, Northwood really doesn't want to remove 096, so the reason he didn't get any changes this update is probably because any changes they did try for him just made him stronger or underpowered. Probably. We don't get a lot of communication lol
Last edited by SpiderGlitch; Jun 1, 2023 @ 11:26am
Sex destroyer Jun 1, 2023 @ 11:36am 
NW devs just need to bite the bullet as Scot said in his 079 Rant video, 096 is a broken idea in a stable game, hell you know what? I propose that for the next Pears they secretly remove 096 and then after a week ask for Players satisfaction, then they do a week with 096 enabled and compare the results
Not really. Those greedy ♥♥♥♥♥ just want to make money to buy expensive automobiles and a mansion in the Charlbury road.

They only made this game to convince young kids to subscribe to their patreon and donate money to them using their mum’s credit card.
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Ender Jun 2, 2023 @ 12:05am 
Originally posted by SpiderGlitch:
Originally posted by Combine:
they made changes that nobody asked for such as changing the achievements
Many, many people were asking for this as some achivements were broken completely (106's femur) and others 'rewarded' bad gameplay (dying to tesla or 173)

Originally posted by Combine:
People have been complaining about the optimization of the game for years now. Northwood has promised to fix the performance of the game with every update they release, but so far they have done the exact opposite.
I mean, for me performance has definitely increased. I think the larger problem is the infrequency of updates, which makes it feel like they aren't optimizing simply because they aren't updating at all for large amounts of time

Originally posted by Combine:
Tons of players have been complaining about SCP 096, suggesting that he should either get reworked completely or outright removed and yet he didn't receive a single change in the 13.0 Update.
I'm in favor of replacing 096 with another crowd-control SCP (like SCP-323), but from what I see, Northwood really doesn't want to remove 096, so the reason he didn't get any changes this update is probably because any changes they did try for him just made him stronger or underpowered. Probably. We don't get a lot of communication lol
For me and many other players, the performance of the game has been decreased with the release of the 13.0 Update. Take a look at the comments in the announcement of the update and you'll see what I mean. Now regarding SCP 096, Simon has said in a previous post that the team is aware of 096's issues and they'll try to fix him in the future.
Last edited by Ender; Jun 2, 2023 @ 12:15am
Youkneed Swag Jun 2, 2023 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by Combine:
Now regarding SCP 096, Simon has said in a previous post that the team is aware of 096's issues and they'll try to fix him in the future.
"fixing it" is reworking it a million times and having every rework be just as bad as the previous one.
MrSwagster Jun 2, 2023 @ 4:58am 
i think the only change 096 needs to be balenced is that change the distance at which he can be triggered. just like it was in the old update, other than that nothings bad about him, and i guess them taking long time to do an update is because they dont have plans about what to change.
Emperor Zero Jun 9, 2023 @ 11:17pm 
96 is fine and is honestly very underpowered compared to 173 939 106 and 079
Emperor Zero Jun 9, 2023 @ 11:21pm 
Originally posted by Zhang Yong:
NW devs just need to bite the bullet as Scot said in his 079 Rant video, 096 is a broken idea in a stable game, hell you know what? I propose that for the next Pears they secretly remove 096 and then after a week ask for Players satisfaction, then they do a week with 096 enabled and compare the results
i really don't get why people think 096 is broken he is completely underpowered and a glass cannon, he fits the game while 079 doesn't and is broken and throws the balance completely off, seriously this isn't when 096 first got his rework and was a unkillable god now he is just a glass cannon who has zero chance against a mtf or chaos squad and has zero chance against 1 dude with a micro or even just a logicer if the 096 is like half hp, he is super weak and squishy
Vadam Jun 9, 2023 @ 11:37pm 
Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:
Originally posted by Zhang Yong:
NW devs just need to bite the bullet as Scot said in his 079 Rant video, 096 is a broken idea in a stable game, hell you know what? I propose that for the next Pears they secretly remove 096 and then after a week ask for Players satisfaction, then they do a week with 096 enabled and compare the results
i really don't get why people think 096 is broken he is completely underpowered and a glass cannon, he fits the game while 079 doesn't and is broken and throws the balance completely off, seriously this isn't when 096 first got his rework and was a unkillable god now he is just a glass cannon who has zero chance against a mtf or chaos squad and has zero chance against 1 dude with a micro or even just a logicer if the 096 is like half hp, he is super weak and squishy

but the game is not just MTF/Chaos, about third/half the game is early game. Think of the impact SCP-096 alongside his peers has on probably the most interesting part of every round...
Emperor Zero Jun 10, 2023 @ 12:00am 
Originally posted by VadamL:
Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:
i really don't get why people think 096 is broken he is completely underpowered and a glass cannon, he fits the game while 079 doesn't and is broken and throws the balance completely off, seriously this isn't when 096 first got his rework and was a unkillable god now he is just a glass cannon who has zero chance against a mtf or chaos squad and has zero chance against 1 dude with a micro or even just a logicer if the 096 is like half hp, he is super weak and squishy

but the game is not just MTF/Chaos, about third/half the game is early game. Think of the impact SCP-096 alongside his peers has on probably the most interesting part of every round...
096 is still super weak early game a group of guards can kill him if he is alone and for d boys and scientists they can just look down and he is useless, the only time he can ever do any thing is if he is with a group of scps and even then he won't be the strongest scp among them, look i get where you are coming from when 096 was first reworked i was pissed about how op he was and had dumbasses trying to say he was balanced and fine and you just suck but then he was ACTUALLY op and i think most of the scps are op now other then 096 and 049, im biased against the scps and i can even admit that no 096 isn't op and honestly i wish he was a bit stronger because he is just so pathetic to play against, i have no fear of 096 at all unlike 939 or 173, 096 is just a pathetic threat that can only do any thing when accompanied by a horde of his fellow scps to soak up damage for him before he gets melted and murdered.
Ender Jun 10, 2023 @ 12:42am 
Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:
96 is fine and is honestly very underpowered compared to 173 939 106 and 079
It's not about being overpowered or underpowered. 096 is simply not a fun scp to play as or against.
Emperor Zero Jun 10, 2023 @ 12:51am 
Originally posted by Combine:
Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:
96 is fine and is honestly very underpowered compared to 173 939 106 and 079
It's not about being overpowered or underpowered. 096 is simply not a fun scp to play as or against.
that argument could be made for literally every scp dude, 096 is fine to play against and is fun af and makes for a good target for mtf, the mtf or chaos never coordinate against the other scps but for 096 they all want to kill him its fun to hunt 096 down with a team and its fun to slaughter that team, how is 096 not fun to play? you get to rage and murder and slaughter a bunch of people if they look at you and you gotta play it smart and stay out of danger in your unenraged form, you guys are just salty you died to 096 because you ran away instead of shooting him
Ender Jun 10, 2023 @ 4:41am 
Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:
Originally posted by Combine:
It's not about being overpowered or underpowered. 096 is simply not a fun scp to play as or against.
that argument could be made for literally every scp dude, 096 is fine to play against and is fun af and makes for a good target for mtf, the mtf or chaos never coordinate against the other scps but for 096 they all want to kill him its fun to hunt 096 down with a team and its fun to slaughter that team, how is 096 not fun to play? you get to rage and murder and slaughter a bunch of people if they look at you and you gotta play it smart and stay out of danger in your unenraged form, you guys are just salty you died to 096 because you ran away instead of shooting him
Yes, it's very fun for humans to have to look at the ground for half the match, or when you trigger 096 from across the hallway without even knowing he was there. And it's also very fun for 096 to not be able to do anything to a human who is looking down.At the very least it takes some skill to successfully escape the other scps.
Emperor Zero Jun 10, 2023 @ 4:54am 
Originally posted by Combine:
Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:
that argument could be made for literally every scp dude, 096 is fine to play against and is fun af and makes for a good target for mtf, the mtf or chaos never coordinate against the other scps but for 096 they all want to kill him its fun to hunt 096 down with a team and its fun to slaughter that team, how is 096 not fun to play? you get to rage and murder and slaughter a bunch of people if they look at you and you gotta play it smart and stay out of danger in your unenraged form, you guys are just salty you died to 096 because you ran away instead of shooting him
Yes, it's very fun for humans to have to look at the ground for half the match, or when you trigger 096 from across the hallway without even knowing he was there. And it's also very fun for 096 to not be able to do anything to a human who is looking down.At the very least it takes some skill to successfully escape the other scps.
you know you don't have to look at the ground the entire time right? also 096 is a group fighting scp dummy, thats why your argument "but but d boys and scientists" is bad, they will normally be alone and in small groups and just run past 096 so by complaining about looking down you just invalidated your previous point, 096 is fun to fight ARMED groups not just some d boy who looks down, thats like complaining about being 939 and a single d boy just slow walking, they are meant to be group fighters thats the fun part, but 096 is still super weak in the thing its meant to do unlike 939.
Last edited by Emperor Zero; Jun 10, 2023 @ 4:54am
Vadam Jun 10, 2023 @ 5:09am 
Originally posted by Sextus Pompeius Magnus:
Originally posted by Combine:
Yes, it's very fun for humans to have to look at the ground for half the match, or when you trigger 096 from across the hallway without even knowing he was there. And it's also very fun for 096 to not be able to do anything to a human who is looking down.At the very least it takes some skill to successfully escape the other scps.
you know you don't have to look at the ground the entire time right? also 096 is a group fighting scp dummy, thats why your argument "but but d boys and scientists" is bad, they will normally be alone and in small groups and just run past 096 so by complaining about looking down you just invalidated your previous point, 096 is fun to fight ARMED groups not just some d boy who looks down, thats like complaining about being 939 and a single d boy just slow walking, they are meant to be group fighters thats the fun part, but 096 is still super weak in the thing its meant to do unlike 939.

You have to look at the ground the whole time, unless you are absolutely sure 096 is in different Zone. Because of view distance and audio distance, an 096 will be triggered, while being completely impossible to see and hear in long corridors, so you either metagame and look down to be safe or you don't and risk getting targeted This is especially true in early game in LCZ.
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Date Posted: Jun 1, 2023 @ 10:56am
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