Is it just me or this game not "fun" anymore?

[Aspen]

Granted, I have almost 700 hours in it. At that point, anything'll get stale. But despite month long breaks, I still just don't see the appeal of SL anymore. Hell, maybe I'm just playing on the wrong servers, or maybe I've just played for too long.

I want to know whether or not this is the common consensus (both for people around my playtime and also people who recently started playing.) How do you all feel? Has SL lost a "charm" it once had for you?

[Sirbuddyguy]

096 was fine in the beta until nw had a stroke and decided to add a -50% logicer nerf on scps (25% would of at least made the gun useable) buffed 096s hp and made it so he could move beginning his rage. Some of these changes were definitely needed but now it takes forever to chip at his hp and a single cadet can inflict permanent damage which i liked before where you had to commit to 096

[HECU Soldier]

Originally posted by jamtarterious brown:

096 was fine in the beta until nw had a stroke and decided to add a -50% logicer nerf on scps (25% would of at least made the gun useable) buffed 096s hp and made it so he could move beginning his rage. Some of these changes were definitely needed but now it takes forever to chip at his hp and a single cadet can inflict permanent damage which i liked before where you had to commit to 096

What I liked about him was that he had a more clear way of being dealt with. Old SCO 096 could take out squads and squads, yet he was weak to one person and was a lot more risky to play. Now you can easily play 096 and not have to worry that much about being killed.

[CerusSerenade]

Originally posted by Tommy Wiseau:

Every thread turns into "waaaaaaaaa 096 is op because i dont have the common sense to counter" lol

If the majority of players are saying that 096 is busted, and it's a repeated complaint over a long period of time-

The response should not be "lol it's not the devs who can't balance the game, it's the players who are bad!"

[HECU Soldier]

Originally posted by Tommy Wiseau:

Every thread turns into "waaaaaaaaa 096 is op because i dont have the common sense to counter" lol

I mean, yet you are the one complaining about jumping, something that can be countered with less than common sense.

[Kaiju]

Originally posted by HECU Soldier:

Originally posted by Tommy Wiseau:

Every thread turns into "waaaaaaaaa 096 is op because i dont have the common sense to counter" lol

I mean, yet you are the one complaining about jumping, something that can be countered with less than common sense.

Let me be honest, movement shooters are a lot better than realistic ones. If this game were to remove jumping than gunfights would be less fun and uninteresting.

[RocketPillow]

Originally posted by Tommy Wiseau:

Originally posted by HECU Soldier:

I mean, yet you are the one complaining about jumping, something that can be countered with less than common sense.

K can easily be countered while the spcs all have a delay after they attack, they are not machine guns. And the jump feature is clearly abused by you and all the other kids who play this game so i expect comments like this, also stop harassing me every single post i make.

Go jump in a cold, cold bath.

[Snootch]

Originally posted by maggot:

Originally posted by HECU Soldier:

I mean, yet you are the one complaining about jumping, something that can be countered with less than common sense.

Let me be honest, movement shooters are a lot better than realistic ones. If this game were to remove jumping than gunfights would be less fun and uninteresting.

Except when ping plays a huge role and you have people that are clearly playing out of region abusing it. The gunfight becomes more frustrating and annoying than it is 'fun and interesting' as you put it. Nothing more annoying than someone jumping around like bugs bunny hopped up on carrot shots who just soaks damage because the clients don't line up since they are allowed to play on the server with 100+ ping.

[MeGoodEnglish]

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

Originally posted by Tommy Wiseau:

Every thread turns into "waaaaaaaaa 096 is op because i dont have the common sense to counter" lol

If the majority of players are saying that 096 is busted, and it's a repeated complaint over a long period of time-

The response should not be "lol it's not the devs who can't balance the game, it's the players who are bad!"

People cant play though, since the community comes and go most of the time. People that already used to dodge 096 be dodging.

Some stay ignorant and look at long hallway anyway.

Doesnt take too much thinking to kill 096 either. But people prefer simple bullet sponge SCP where you do not need some sort of counter. Just shoot. 096 require a bit of brain and people crying.

[Narrowgauge07]

Originally posted by MeGoodEnglish:

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

If the majority of players are saying that 096 is busted, and it's a repeated complaint over a long period of time-

The response should not be "lol it's not the devs who can't balance the game, it's the players who are bad!"

People cant play though, since the community comes and go most of the time. People that already used to dodge 096 be dodging.

Some stay ignorant and look at long hallway anyway.

Doesnt take too much thinking to kill 096 either. But people prefer simple bullet sponge SCP where you do not need some sort of counter. Just shoot. 096 require a bit of brain and people crying.

his counterplay IS unfun. it isnt fun to look down, even 45 degrees, then get ambushed by a dog and die you dont understand the fact that alot of people, think he isnt fun to fight, simple as that, and unfun things for a majority of players should probally be changed to be fun, right?

[CerusSerenade]

Originally posted by MeGoodEnglish:

Originally posted by CerusSerenade:

If the majority of players are saying that 096 is busted, and it's a repeated complaint over a long period of time-

The response should not be "lol it's not the devs who can't balance the game, it's the players who are bad!"

People cant play though, since the community comes and go most of the time. People that already used to dodge 096 be dodging.

Some stay ignorant and look at long hallway anyway.

Doesnt take too much thinking to kill 096 either. But people prefer simple bullet sponge SCP where you do not need some sort of counter. Just shoot. 096 require a bit of brain and people crying.

UNLIKE every other SCP in the game, a squad of Chaos or MTF fresh off the spawn consistently dies to 096 in most scenarios. No other SCP has this reliability in dealing with large and small groups of players.

Making an SCP that then in addition has ungodly synergy with the likes of Peanut and computer is even worse. You can't just "look down and avoid" 096.

No other SCP has this dominating presence over the game, and there are next to no weaknesses in exchange for it. As I said, fresh spawns of 10-15 players will consistently fail to kill a single 096 by themselves, and usually most if not all of that fresh spawn of players will die on surface.

NO other SCP has this ability to control the game at all stages. 106, 173, 049 and 939 ALL become significantly weaker on surface, but not 096. Throw 096 in there and 99.9% of the time the SCP's win assuming they're playing competently. "Not looking at 096" is not an option when they are stacked together and you have to shoot them to kill them. They aren't just going to walk into grenades.

096 is too powerful. Remotely glancing at him through your peripheral vision is all it takes to trigger him, and after that it's over. There is no counter play. There is no exploiting weaknesses to kill him. Any competent 096 will kill his targets and then retreat to a remote location/teammates. The game by extension is less enjoyable whenever 096 spawns.

[MeGoodEnglish]

Originally posted by Narrowgauge07:

Originally posted by MeGoodEnglish:

People cant play though, since the community comes and go most of the time. People that already used to dodge 096 be dodging.

Some stay ignorant and look at long hallway anyway.

Doesnt take too much thinking to kill 096 either. But people prefer simple bullet sponge SCP where you do not need some sort of counter. Just shoot. 096 require a bit of brain and people crying.

his counterplay IS unfun. it isnt fun to look down, even 45 degrees, then get ambushed by a dog and die you dont understand the fact that alot of people, think he isnt fun to fight, simple as that, and unfun things for a majority of players should probally be changed to be fun, right?

Unfun? Thats the thing you bring up? Understanding your field of view is fun. Especially dodging SCP's give more challenge.

Bullet sponge where the only thing is just running back and shooting bullets is not fun. It gets boring real quick.

But trying to measure when to strike? Following 096 slowly, and giving it surprise attack. Is fun.

096 actually pretty fun.

[Narrowgauge07]

Originally posted by MeGoodEnglish:

Originally posted by Narrowgauge07:

his counterplay IS unfun. it isnt fun to look down, even 45 degrees, then get ambushed by a dog and die you dont understand the fact that alot of people, think he isnt fun to fight, simple as that, and unfun things for a majority of players should probally be changed to be fun, right?

Unfun? Thats the thing you bring up? Understanding your field of view is fun. Especially dodging SCP's give more challenge.

Bullet sponge where the only thing is just running back and shooting bullets is not fun. It gets boring real quick.

But trying to measure when to strike? Following 096 slowly, and giving it surprise attack. Is fun.

096 actually pretty fun.

that part can be enjoyable, but looking at the ground is not, the entire deal with 096, look down or die, is NOT fun. its not even a challange, its just either look 45 degrees or more down or die in a long hallway. even then sometimes 096 triggers anyway and you die, i looked 45 degrees saw his feet and he got triggered and i died.

[lakupupu]

Originally posted by Narrowgauge07:

that part can be enjoyable, but looking at the ground is not, the entire deal with 096, look down or die, is NOT fun. its not even a challange, its just either look 45 degrees or more down or die in a long hallway. even then sometimes 096 triggers anyway and you die, i looked 45 degrees saw his feet and he got triggered and i died.

from experience 096 can usually see you even if you dont look at him, and when you hide in a corner he still beelines directly for you, whenever i get lucky and don't see him, he still finds me by randomly swinging around as i have no way of navigating when im looking down, he just shouldnt be able to kill people who havent looked at him
same for 939, multiple occasions where i die to 939 when im slow walking or standing still because they still saw me, one 939 even said "i can still see you"

[Xor fo xob]

Originally posted by battle royale pro lol:

Originally posted by Narrowgauge07:

that part can be enjoyable, but looking at the ground is not, the entire deal with 096, look down or die, is NOT fun. its not even a challange, its just either look 45 degrees or more down or die in a long hallway. even then sometimes 096 triggers anyway and you die, i looked 45 degrees saw his feet and he got triggered and i died.

from experience 096 can usually see you even if you dont look at him, and when you hide in a corner he still beelines directly for you, whenever i get lucky and don't see him, he still finds me by randomly swinging around as i have no way of navigating when im looking down, he just shouldnt be able to kill people who havent looked at him
same for 939, multiple occasions where i die to 939 when im slow walking or standing still because they still saw me, one 939 even said "i can still see you"

yeah
as for 939. i think its that way for balance reasons.
you have like 3 seconds of visibility after you stop running.
oh yeah and you reveal yourself by voice chatting :)

[dizzytom]

i like it its fun