A couple of questions on Versatile

[RIB BLUP]

Before I delve too deep into the wrong classes and waste time, I wanted to know if Versatile works with Wild Card: Clubs, and if it works with healing. Also, if it does work with healing, does crit hit damage work with healing? Thanks.

[Conan The Librarian]

I am not 100% sure, but I think Wild Card: Clubs cannot crit because it’s not a regular attack, but a randomly rolled effect for X damage. That being said, perhaps someone can test this to verify.

Yes, [Versatility] works with healing. I am unsure if + crit damage affects healing though—again, worth a test.

[Sheltim]

This was fun to test. I'll make each test a separate post for readability. Please let me know if you see any problems with my methodology.

TLDR:
* neither wild card (damage nor healing) can crit
* Heals are affected by bonus crit damage effects (e.g. scythes)
* Versatile does let Special abilities (e.g. Vessel) crit (both damage and healing)
* When Special abilities (e.g. Vessel) crit, they are affected by bonus crit damage effects (e.g. scythes)

[Sheltim]

Test 1
Reiner: Spymaster/Gambler/Know Weakness/Versatile
Equipment: Reaper, Valiant Helm, Soul Armor, Drake Talon, Sharp Gauntlet, Sharp Gauntlet
Crit: 89%
Expected crit damage: 100% (base) + 50% (standard) + 25% (scythe)
Wild card: club damage - 50, 100, 50, 50, *special roll, omitted*, 50, 50, 25, 50, 50, 50
Wild card: heart healing - 50, 40, 40, 25, 25, 40, 40, 40, 40, 25

The odds of not getting a crit 10 times in a row with 89% crit is very very low, so I feel very very confident that neither Wild Card can crit.

Incidentally, the *special roll, omitted* is a neat effect where it does enough damage to bring the target to 1 hp. In my case, 105 damage on a target with 106 hp.

[Sheltim]

Test 2
Lana: Princess/Mender/Know Weakness/Versatile
Equipment: Day's Harvest, Cap of Ages, Arbiter Garb, Sharp Gauntlet, Sharp Gauntlet, Sharp Gauntlet
Crit: 51%
Expected crit damage: 100% (base) + 50% (standard) + 25% (scythe)


The 'paperdoll' healing for Heal 1 is 129. I would expect to see 193 if +crit damage does NOT affect heals; or 225 if it DOES.

I used it on the same target until I saw a crit and saw 225 hp. Heals are affected by bonus crit damage effects (e.g. scythes).

[Sheltim]

Test 3
Virgil: Vessel/Alchemystic/Know Weakness/Versatile
Equipment: Energy Scythe, Ninja Cowl, Arbiter Garb, Sharp Gauntlet, Sharp Gauntlet, Sharp Gauntlet
Crit: 46%
Expected crit damage: 100% (base) + 50% (standard) + 25% (scythe)


The 'paperdoll' damage for Nameless One is 181. I would expect to see 271 if +crit damage does NOT affect heals; or 316 if it DOES.

I used it on the same target until I got a crit and saw 316 damage. Special damage abilities (e.g. Vessel) CAN crit and ARE affected by bonus crit damage effects (e.g. scythes).


The 'paperdoll' healing for Psyhie is 178. I would expect to see 267 if +crit damage does NOT affect heals; or 311 if it DOES.

I used it on the same target until I got a crit and saw 311 hp. Special healing abilities (e.g. Vessel) CAN crit and ARE affected by bonus crit damage effects (e.g. scythes).

[RIB BLUP]

Thank you for your thoroughness. That is excellent information. Now I can trade out my Healing Staff Warmage/Mender for a crit healer of some kind and see how it goes.