Thoughts on Bloodless?

[Nox Tenebris]

How is progression, does playing her still make the game feel fleshed out with ways to improve your character? So far, do you prefer her, Zangetsu, or Miriam?

[AnemoneMeer]

引用自 Andres_ak47：

引用自 AnemoneMeer：

All the bosses except Bloodless herself are in the mode.

I did all this and found not even 1:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2283493236

I'll keep looking, I guess...

All the bosses are in the same places they are in Miriam's mode. Just uh... go to those rooms.

[DZMaven]

I played it for a couple hours and generally enjoy it.
Unlike Zangetsu, you do have to explore to find her abilities and progress.

I've noticed too that she's the only character that has a knockback (The charge up regular attack) skill. This leads to some interesting new ways to tackle enemies. .

For instance, the 1st Zangetsu encounter can be easily cheesed with the knockback attack. (It guard blocks too)

Bathin can also get canceled out of his reflection laser attack if you hit him before he unleashes it.

There may some more interesting tricks to pull off with it.

[iriyap]

The knockback on the charged attack is crazy, yeah. You can keep smashing Revenant against the wall for an easy win.

BTW, if anyone's wondering the final movement upgrade (high jump) is in Hidden Desert. And you also unlock a healing ability in Secret Sorcery Lab.

[Mr. Powers]

Can't seemto figure out the button combination for High or Flight jump after sands boss... Perhaps its glitched. Please assist. Thanks

[iriyap]

引用自 Mr. Powers：

Can't seemto figure out the button combination for High or Flight jump after sands boss... Perhaps its glitched. Please assist. Thanks

It's up + back step (LB by default), or just back step while in the air. Same as in Miriam's game.

[Melchiah]

I've been playing her on Nightmare and so far, she's way better than Zangetsu for two reasons:

• She actually grows stronger.
  
• She can unlock skills.

Problem is, she starts on her boss room with only her umbrella-ella-ella and a slide skill you unlock right there, so in that sense she's worse than Zangetsu.

As for her growing stronger, you can find items that increase her stats (so far I've not found anything that increases her base damage) and of course, the skills; exploring is actually rewarding but as far as I've seen, you can't 100% the map (unless she gets some sort of dimension shift later on).

I've been enjoying this mode so far and I'd like to know how to change her color as in the promo video (I made it to the barber and he's not there). Also, so far I've only beaten Craftwork (and he gave me no skill, I got an increased CON "item" and the charged attack skill before his boss room), and I'm currently attempting (and failing) the galleon boss; as for story... I don't really care, I like to think bloodless got tired of being evil or just wanted to rule the world and decided to beat the ♥♥♥♥ out of the other monsters, take whatever version you prefer.

[iriyap]

She gets multiple boosts to all her stats, even Luck (I guess for critical hits?), so she should be viable in Nightmare.

Oh and you can change her color by simply changing the blood color in the game options, she's all blood, haha.

[Melchiah]

引用自 iriyap：

She gets multiple boosts to all her stats, even Luck (I guess for critical hits?), so she should be viable in Nightmare.

Oh and you can change her color by simply changing the blood color in the game options, she's all blood, haha.

Well ♥♥♥♥... I was expecting to keep blood red and just change her outfit, but I guess that's as good a reason to use that option which I never even considered.

Also, they promised to add paid cosmetics for Myriam, and I hope they add some for Bloodless as well (and maybe a "spy" outfit for Zangetsu).

[iriyap]

Discovered another trick. Once you get the Blood Steal upgrade you can cast e.g. Blood Rain, absorb the blood to heal about 50-60 HP (and also recover some MP), then rinse and repeat, hit some candles if you're low on MP. This is useful if you're far from a save point and low on HP.

Blood Steal is pretty OP all in all, useful even during boss fights.

[TricksterTravvy]

引用自 TemmieNeko：

引用自 iriyap：

A lot better than the Zangetsu mode. She starts with only basic attack and the slide. You need to find blood crystals scattered around the castle to unlock her abilities. You can't just go wherever because plenty of places require unlocking various movement abilities first.

You start in her boss room and then plan your route from there. I recommend playing on Normal because unlike Zangetsu she's considerably weaker and some of the bosses in this mode are rather tanky. If you enjoy a classicvania like challenge then this mode is lots of fun.

She has a surprising selection of attacks (both umbrella and blood based) and can block things with her umbrella. Another cool touch is her outfit acts like an MP indicator, she gets progressively more naked as your MP goes down, lol. Also, water kills her (because she's a vampire) but I guess there's an upgrade later on that lets you traverse underwater sections somehow.

Content and story wise there's a few lines of dialog and some short cutscenes but I haven't played that much yet, there could be a unique final boss.

W-why does water kill her?
someone said, and I quote " 100% of the map is open to her, anywhere Miriam can go, she can go; no exceptions "
but there's a gigantic water only area.
EDIT * okay, so you get a spell to avoid it.
but why is water a vampire weakness, all of a sudden? HOLY WATER, yeah - but regular water? Since when has this ever been a thing for Vampire lore?
Vampires must smell effin horrible if this is lore.

It's a Castlevania-style gameplay thing. Alucard couldn't go in water either without being hurt

[steep_chesterfield]

引用自 Melchiah：

As for her growing stronger, you can find items that increase her stats (so far I've not found anything that increases her base damage) and of course, the skills; exploring is actually rewarding but as far as I've seen, you can't 100% the map (unless she gets some sort of dimension shift later on).

Strength boost increases base damage, Constitution boost increases physical defense, Intelligence boost increases magic damage and Mind boost increases magic defense.

[Arcath]

引用自 TemmieNeko：

引用自 iriyap：

A lot better than the Zangetsu mode. She starts with only basic attack and the slide. You need to find blood crystals scattered around the castle to unlock her abilities. You can't just go wherever because plenty of places require unlocking various movement abilities first.

You start in her boss room and then plan your route from there. I recommend playing on Normal because unlike Zangetsu she's considerably weaker and some of the bosses in this mode are rather tanky. If you enjoy a classicvania like challenge then this mode is lots of fun.

She has a surprising selection of attacks (both umbrella and blood based) and can block things with her umbrella. Another cool touch is her outfit acts like an MP indicator, she gets progressively more naked as your MP goes down, lol. Also, water kills her (because she's a vampire) but I guess there's an upgrade later on that lets you traverse underwater sections somehow.

Content and story wise there's a few lines of dialog and some short cutscenes but I haven't played that much yet, there could be a unique final boss.

W-why does water kill her?
someone said, and I quote " 100% of the map is open to her, anywhere Miriam can go, she can go; no exceptions "
but there's a gigantic water only area.
EDIT * okay, so you get a spell to avoid it.
but why is water a vampire weakness, all of a sudden? HOLY WATER, yeah - but regular water? Since when has this ever been a thing for Vampire lore?
Vampires must smell effin horrible if this is lore.

Think about it this way:
Her outfit is blood.
Her weapons are blood.
Her strength is blood.
Everything about her is blood.

Guess what gets washed away as soon as she steps into water?

[Nox Tenebris]

引用自 Mr. Grifter：

引用自 TemmieNeko：

W-why does water kill her?
someone said, and I quote " 100% of the map is open to her, anywhere Miriam can go, she can go; no exceptions "
but there's a gigantic water only area.
EDIT * okay, so you get a spell to avoid it.
but why is water a vampire weakness, all of a sudden? HOLY WATER, yeah - but regular water? Since when has this ever been a thing for Vampire lore?
Vampires must smell effin horrible if this is lore.

Think about it this way:
Her outfit is blood.
Her weapons are blood.
Her strength is blood.
Everything about her is blood.

Guess what gets washed away as soon as she steps into water?

The dirt on her clothes? Hey man, everyone needs a bath. IDC how much you don't like baths, randomly taking damage in water is no excuse.

[Chaika Trabant]

引用自 Nox Tenebris：

The dirt on her clothes? Hey man, everyone needs a bath. IDC how much you don't like baths, randomly taking damage in water is no excuse.

It's not something Iga randomly invented, it's actual folklore.
Same thing for the "vampires can't enter a house unless someone invited them" or "vampires are weak against garlic"

[TemmieNeko]

引用自 AnemoneMeer：

引用自 TemmieNeko：

W-why does water kill her?
someone said, and I quote " 100% of the map is open to her, anywhere Miriam can go, she can go; no exceptions "
but there's a gigantic water only area.
EDIT * okay, so you get a spell to avoid it.
but why is water a vampire weakness, all of a sudden? HOLY WATER, yeah - but regular water? Since when has this ever been a thing for Vampire lore?
Vampires must smell effin horrible if this is lore.

Vampires can't cross running water.

you're referring to them CROSSING OVER WATER ON A BRIDGE LOL.
it literally has never been about THE WATER HARMING THEM.
if that was the case, holy water would never be a staple in vampire lore.
you speak complete madness.

also--- that wasn't vampires, it was the headless horseman.

if you're pulling vampire lore from Bloodrayne movies, lemme tell ya somehting - theyre not even accurate to the games.