Gremory is a terrible boss fight

[Titan]

The constant summoned moons make it near impossible to attack her without getting hit yourself, and you need to use invert to dodge her laser attack but invert only actually works about 50% of the time. And even using the Zangetsuto she has seemingly infinite health.

[elvendualwielder]

You don't need to use zangetsuto to kill her, and wait, "Invert only actually works about 50% of the time"? I can get it to work every time, even to the point of pseudo flight. So you're having problems dodging it? You would've had an impossible time on Order of Ecclesia, but vent away. It's healthy.

[Sigma]

So many shards in the game and the best you got is to use a weapon?

[Wolfenrath]

High jump is an OP maneuverability white shard.

Also, you might want to consider some multi-hit shards and multi-hit weapons (or at least fast weapons). There are several. Some favorite weapons include Rhava Velar and the Flying Edge (which can be crafted into the Oracle Blade). Experiment around a bit more. You'll cut through her quickly.

[Titan]

Originally posted by elvendualwielder:

You don't need to use zangetsuto to kill her, and wait, "Invert only actually works about 50% of the time"? I can get it to work every time, even to the point of pseudo flight. So you're having problems dodging it? You would've had an impossible time on Order of Ecclesia, but vent away. It's healthy.

You don't need the Zangetsuto but it is by far the weapon that deals the most damage against her, and even with that she has an absurd health pool.

And yes. Half of the time you can do the input for invert and Miriam just does a double jump instead of inverting. And I'm not messing up the input.

[Guts]

The poltergeist shard gives you a shield of poltergeists that will deflect the moons and harm gremory. The fight is easy if you stay on the ceiling. I used a gun and shadow clones to win.

[Nanashi]

Originally posted by Titan:

The constant summoned moons make it near impossible to attack her without getting hit yourself, and you need to use invert to dodge her laser attack but invert only actually works about 50% of the time. And even using the Zangetsuto she has seemingly infinite health.

Actually you can block the beam with any of the shielding abilities.

[LockDown]

It's not hard. Get a good projectile shard and get to a high level and just spam the shard on her. If you are doing full completion you should be around level 70 or higher.

[Titan]

Originally posted by LockDown:

It's not hard. Get a good projectile shard and get to a high level and just spam the shard on her. If you are doing full completion you should be around level 70 or higher.

Dunno what ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ universe you'd be level 70 or higher at that point. I explored every single part of the map possible before reaching Gremory, did every optional boss, most of the quests in Arvantville, etc and was level 40 when I beat the entire game.

You'd have to be wasting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of time grinding to be at level 70.

[Guts]

Originally posted by Titan:

You'd have to be wasting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of time grinding to be at level 70.

By the time you grind the useful yellow shards into 9/9 white shards you will likely be about level 70.

[elvendualwielder]

Something something Chisel Barrage something something Directional Shield something something Words of Wisdom something walk on ceiling. BAM, most late game boss fights defeated, especially on normal mode.

[Titan]

Originally posted by N473:

Originally posted by Titan:

You'd have to be wasting ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of time grinding to be at level 70.

By the time you grind the useful yellow shards into 9/9 white shards you will likely be about level 70.

Imagine grinding for anything in a video game.

[Guts]

Originally posted by Titan:

Originally posted by N473:

By the time you grind the useful yellow shards into 9/9 white shards you will likely be about level 70.

Imagine grinding for anything in a video game.

Yeah, I didn't grind on my first playthrough, but I'm trying to 100% the second.

[elvendualwielder]

Originally posted by Titan:

Imagine grinding for anything in a video game.

I take it you're new to the whole video game development process? For as long as longevity has been an issue in expensive luxury goods getting your perceived money's worth out of it has been an issue. Or have you never played Dragon Warrior for the NES? That game is padded to heck.

[Titan]

Originally posted by elvendualwielder:

Originally posted by Titan:

Imagine grinding for anything in a video game.

I take it you're new to the whole video game development process? For as long as longevity has been an issue in expensive luxury goods getting your perceived money's worth out of it has been an issue. Or have you never played Dragon Warrior for the NES? That game is padded to heck.

Grinding has never and will never be fun and any game which forces grinding is also by default a bad game. It's just poor design inherently.

[elvendualwielder]

I agree. But it's been a part of the lazy game designer's play book since the 80's. So it's probably not going away any time soon, but but Normal mode here doesn't require it.