Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night

Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night

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nwad 2018 年 12 月 27 日 下午 7:43
Linux and Mac cancelled because "middleware"
So tired of this excuse. Wondering what it could be. Probably denuvo. I am not a backer, but I sincerely hope Linux and Mac were not one of the promises pitched with the crowdfunding. Seen that happen so many times now.

edit: just looked at the kickstarter, and yep, Linux and Mac were promised, and now cancelled. Nice job.

edit 2: no denuvo.
最后由 nwad 编辑于; 2019 年 1 月 16 日 下午 12:49
引用自 Angel-Corlux:
The game is confirmed working on Linux.

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Mac is not available.

Locking this thread as it's served its purpose and is devolving into arguing for arguing's sake.
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Huginn Aesir 2019 年 6 月 19 日 下午 1:30 
引用自 Local_Wizard
引用自 Mega Missingno.
I do, but I refuse to buy the game on any platform now based on how terribly they're treating their current customers. I don't want to support these devs at all.

Seems a bit dramatic, but ok.

I can understand the sentiment. I have a rule, since 2005, that I will never purchase any Sony product in production. I have bought a single Sony product since then: a used PSP that was purchased after all PSP production had ceased.

Why? because Sony violated several laws, the most prominent being the computer fraud and abuse act. Sony put a surreptitious installer of a rootkit onto their CDs and DVDs. They rootkitted personal computers and compromised the security of countless systems. Their answer to this was "Most people do not even know what a root-kit is, so I do not know why we are even talking about this."

Sony will never get another cent from me.
Bosh 2019 年 6 月 19 日 下午 1:36 
>Linux/Mac
>Gaming

Pick one.
LnN 2019 年 6 月 19 日 下午 8:10 
引用自 Bosh
>Linux/Mac
>Gaming

Pick one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U8bLArlRXw
Jogo Detonado 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 2:28 
Hello developers of the "505", I would like to make this new application back the bases on Linux.
There is a third party in the ports development market for Linux and MAC.
A Feral Enterternement.
They are very good at delivering games already released to ports on these two platforms.
You could delegate the port for them to do, it would definitely be a lot less costly than you hired more Linux and MAC developers.

I ONLY ASK PLEASE, do not abandon the Linux and MAC port (mainly Linux where I am user)
最后由 Jogo Detonado 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 2:29
sere 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 3:26 
Dropping Linux was disappointing and their reason for doing so seems dishonest. I can't defend them there. However, I do not think they are evil or greedy liars. What they did was flaky and backers did get unnecessarily burned but the devs did do plenty of honest work, created a bonafide vania with depth, and delivered on many expectations and promises both in and outside the scope of backers.

There was no nefarious plot to swindle Linux backers or steal money. What occurred was lazy and wrong and I agree they devs owe a better explanation if any apology is to be taken seriously. It just sucks that the issue is being blown out of proportion. The devs really aren't the worst, they just aren't. Bloodstained is quality work and the devs have managed good will on other fronts.

As bad as the Linux drop is, it doesn't put the devs anywhere near the same league as the truly horrendous EPIC exclusivity sell-out devs. The devs aren't going full bore nickel & diming DLC spam. The devs aren't scheming with loot boxes.

They did something shameful and deserve to lose the business of those affected but they aren't beyond redemption or undeserving of fans and support. They aren't being malevolent, malicious, or greedy.
1.2M | Missingno. 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 4:49 
Refusing to even refund anyone is where they crossed the line. That absolutely is malicious and greedy.

It's not too late to go back and set things right, but they still aren't doing so. Why is that?
glub♥Linux 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 5:24 
Refusing to even refund anyone is where they crossed the line. That absolutely is malicious and greedy.

It's not too late to go back and set things right, but they still aren't doing so. Why is that?

Unfortunately, that is the nature of crowd funding campaigns. You don't get any guarantee of what the outcome may be, if there is any outcome at all to begin with.
1.2M | Missingno. 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 5:53 
Yes, the nature of crowdfunding is that devs can be malicious and greedy. That doesn't change my point though, does it?
Greed Is Addiction 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 6:05 
引用自 Pixelica
Pro tip:
Never kickstart/gofund/crowdfunding unless you understand that YOU ARE DONATING, NOT PRE-ORDERING.
I know, it's F up, but that is the way it is.


Everyone who backed underworld ascendant knows this now.



I have to say, I've lost quite a lot of respect for 505 for doing this. I just hope nothing happens to Indivisible next...


See Underworld Ascendant for the business practices of 505 Games.




引用自 Janichsan
引用自 node357
So tired of this excuse. Wondering what it could be. Probably denuvo.
At the moment, I can't think of any other "middleware" which does not support Mac and/or Linux. So, yeah: probably Denuvo.

I'm pretty p*ssed. I backed the game only because Mac support had been promised.


There are what, 50 people total who use Mac or Linux? This is why they didn't port it to the Vita and I love my Vita.

Denuvo - not on the GoG version.
Haka 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 7:33 
Newsflash: People lose money on Kickstarter, and scientists find definitive evidence that water is indeed "wet". More shocking news more at 11.
sere 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 10:37 
The developers of the game are not malicious or greedy, before 505 was on board the devs had no problem issuing refunds to 2 affected groups that lost their platform of choice. Things go downhill once 505 gets involved because initial funding ended.
1.2M | Missingno. 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 11:05 
505 got involved in October 2016[www.usgamer.net]. Wii U wasn't cut until March 2017. Vita was cut in August 2018.

And really, I don't care who you want to try and pass the buck to. I care that they still are not setting things right.
最后由 1.2M | Missingno. 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 24 日 下午 11:06
Teodosio [GNU] 2019 年 6 月 25 日 上午 12:24 
"Scamware"
引用自 No Known Stereotype
引用自 Janichsan
At the moment, I can't think of any other "middleware" which does not support Mac and/or Linux. So, yeah: probably Denuvo.

I'm pretty p*ssed. I backed the game only because Mac support had been promised.


There are what, 50 people total who use Mac or Linux? This is why they didn't port it to the Vita and I love my Vita.

Denuvo - not on the GoG version.
0.5% of 18.5 million is of users is 92500 Linux users. That is if we completely trust the hardware survey, which I don't because my information is NEVER requested; probably because my steam restarts only once every few months. I'm also sure that if we started listing people's used OSes rather than people's pinged OS(through survey) we'd see that a lot of dual booters are waiting to make the switch.

As someone said in the thread I posted, they apparently decided to use criware which indeed does not support Linux. Why they used cryware... who knows.

I'll reiterate again, when a developer starts a kickstarter, then claims a number of features and gets funded based on that feature set, that developer has engaged in a contract. Using middleware that no one else needs, that prevents you fulfilling said contract, is a good way to demonstrate you never intended to fulfill the contract. Which means it's a scam.
Redblaze27 2019 年 6 月 25 日 上午 1:37 
引用自 Hakageryu
Newsflash: People lose money on Kickstarter, and scientists find definitive evidence that water is indeed "wet". More shocking news more at 11.
You cant wet water, therefore water isnt wet.

Its like how fire in-of iteself isnt burned.
最后由 Redblaze27 编辑于; 2019 年 6 月 25 日 上午 1:37
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