Technique input is weird

[Megakruemel[GER]]

I'm trying to use techniques but so far I am having trouble to actually get them to work most of the time.
I memorized the input but it's really difficult to nail the timing for me. I also thought I was doing it wrong for a long time because I could not use them with some weapons of the same weapon type for some reason. First I actually thought my controller had issues with zones.

Do I need to flick the stick or move it slowly? How much time do I actually have to pull off techniques?
I'm basically asking for tips here.


Also, is the damage actually worth it though? I get a lot more damage out of shards apparently.

[Kashra Fall]

Game by default has input delay turn on, you need to turn it off but it warns you it may affect performance. I dunno why this is a thing, but I have no issue doing my techniques with it turned off.

[Mei]

There it no real timing required, just mash it out. It does seem that just using a sword, does not mean you can always just the same sword technique as other swords can.

[Serell]

Do you have enough mana? I had the same problem as you until I realized you need mana to perform the technique. "why isn't it working? I swear I did the button presses correctly.." Man did I feel dumb

[Megakruemel[GER]]

Originally posted by Serell:

Do you have enough mana? I had the same problem as you until I realized you need mana to perform the technique. "why isn't it working? I swear I did the button presses correctly.." Man did I feel dumb

I always made sure to have enough mana. But I found out that some techniques don't work with some weapons from the same type. I got a flame whip from one of the succubi and tried using techniques with it but apparently it's not compatible.
I also stumbled upon another thread saying that you need to master techniques to use them on all weapons of that category.

[Megakruemel[GER]]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Game by default has input delay turn on, you need to turn it off but it warns you it may affect performance. I dunno why this is a thing, but I have no issue doing my techniques with it turned off.

Wow, okay, that might actually be it. I sadly can't play right now but i'll try this option as soon as I get the chance.

[Mei]

Does all weapons come with an innate technique or do you think we have to master it from the more basic versions to use it with the better weapons?

[Serell]

Originally posted by MegakruemelGER:

Originally posted by Serell:

Do you have enough mana? I had the same problem as you until I realized you need mana to perform the technique. "why isn't it working? I swear I did the button presses correctly.." Man did I feel dumb

I always made sure to have enough mana. But I found out that some techniques don't work with some weapons from the same type. I got a flame whip from one of the succubi and tried using techniques with it but apparently it's not compatible.
I also stumbled upon another thread saying that you need to master techniques to use them on all weapons of that category.

I don't think all weapons of the same type can perform the same techniques. There are bookshelves that you can read that will teach you a technique and list what weapons can use it

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by Serell:

Originally posted by MegakruemelGER:

I always made sure to have enough mana. But I found out that some techniques don't work with some weapons from the same type. I got a flame whip from one of the succubi and tried using techniques with it but apparently it's not compatible.
I also stumbled upon another thread saying that you need to master techniques to use them on all weapons of that category.

I don't think all weapons of the same type can perform the same techniques. There are bookshelves that you can read that will teach you a technique and list what weapons can use it

According to the technique thread. Apparently mastering a technique allows the skill to be performed on any weapon of that type, so sword, etc. It's neat if it is true.

[Stheo]

I find it way easier to use the d-pad to do do fighting game-style moves like these. You get much cleaner inputs than with the analog stick, worth a try if you aren't doing that already.

[just.dont.do.it]

Originally posted by MegakruemelGER:

I memorized the input but it's really difficult to nail the timing for me.

In my experience (though I'm playing with KB+M) you need to mash directional input BUT slightly pause before attacking. So, say, to do very common "D FD F + Attack" first you mash in directions then pause for ~100-200ms, then press attack.

Originally posted by MegakruemelGER:

I also thought I was doing it wrong for a long time because I could not use them with some weapons of the same weapon type for some reason.

A technique is doable only with a couple of specific weapons (those listed in journal notes) UNTIL you master it. Once you master it, it will work on every weapon of the class.

Originally posted by MegakruemelGER:

Also, is the damage actually worth it though? I get a lot more damage out of shards apparently.

Damage isn't particularly important, but changes to attack zones, hitboxes, and i-frames are - e.g. basic rapier technique of "attack attack attack" creates a hefty amount of i-frames on final attack, and it also modifies your hitbox while you spam it, and you can use that fact to a pretty good extent.
Some techniques are pretty bad (e.g. that 2H swords technique that you find very early into the game), but most are useful.

[Tomo Aries]

Not being facetious, but are you new to the 'franchise' or something? Because the inputs are actually there as a very likely reference to the spell system in Symphony Of The Night. Like Crimson Blizzard is basically just a changed-up version of the Hellfire input in SotN.