Iga humor

[prototype81]

I noticed this and found it simple yet clever at the same time.

When I was exploring the Glacial section I noticed fiery red demons embedded into the frozen background. Given the nature of the game it's about the impossible happening, the unseen world becoming apart of our world. When something is seemingly unlikely or impossible there is a saying "when hell freezes over". This was most definitely intentional. Then I was like what other sayings imply this notion? Well, " when pigs fly"... Which most certainly he made sure to add as an enemy type. The Flying hog.

Just wondered if anyone else came up with any other observations or has a cool story about the game. regarding phrases such as this or anything else. I notcied a few other cool tidbits as well. :)

[prototype81]

Big stretches? Maybe to the untrained eye or the uncreative but this was most certainly intentional. Anyways this is a post meant for keen observers not nay sayers.

What's obvious to one may not be so obvious to another.

[Malphas]

Those were probably the two things Konami told him when he wanted to make another Castlevania game.

"Yeah, sure, IGA...you can make another Castlevania game when pigs fly or hell freezes over - whichever happens first."

引用自 Spawk：

Pretty big stretches there, especially given that neither of those would make much sense in Japanese.

IGA is pretty big on Western folklore and stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.

[solthusx]

引用自 Local_Wizard：

Those were probably the two things Konami told him when he wanted to make another Castlevania game.

"Yeah, sure, IGA...you can make another Castlevania game when pigs fly or hell freezes over - whichever happens first."

His best 'Take That!' to Konami is probably the quest to avenge 'Richter the ruffian' by defeating a suspiciously familiar looking boss.

[Rougheredge]

引用自 prototype81：

Big stretches? Maybe to the untrained eye or the uncreative but this was most certainly intentional. Anyways this is a post meant for keen observers not nay sayers.

What's obvious to one may not be so obvious to another.

r/Iamverysmart

[Doc Holiday]

Yeah man it's all in your head. IGA could not care less about this stuff.

[prototype81]

引用自 Local_Wizard：

Those were probably the two things Konami told him when he wanted to make another Castlevania game.

"Yeah, sure, IGA...you can make another Castlevania game when pigs fly or hell freezes over - whichever happens first."

引用自 Spawk：

Pretty big stretches there, especially given that neither of those would make much sense in Japanese.

IGA is pretty big on Western folklore and stuff. I wouldn't be surprised if it was intentional.

I actually never thought of that angle and you could be right. Iga is a creative mind and has always added easter eggs, humor, and hidden meanings in his projects through out his career. And like Kojima has always been fascinated with western culture as well.

As for the negative attention seekers that have flocked to my post I have better things to do than play the immature game of back and forth.

Anymore contributions are welcome :)

[Persona Au Gratin]

What Spawk is worried about is whether someone was aware or consented to the fact that "When Pigs Fly" is visually expressed in the game.

There's also a hidden room in Symphony of the Night where there's a Hammer and "Sickle" inside, so some random non-sequitur about Communism and Dracula just having that and a confessional tucked away in his demonic castle. Guy is so rich he HAS a confessional and hates God, presumably. But the sword isn't literally called a "Sickle", I think it's a khopesh, so it just visually resembles one. There's a lot of visual humor like this with visual puns/jokes, so I absolutely get why you'd associate it with IGA. Even if the flying pigs are just comedic representations of the occult, guess what? I'll stop believing that's not a funny way to depict it when pigs fly.

[DragonByDegrees]

引用自 Radiator：

There's a lot of visual humor like this with visual puns/jokes,

Drops have jokes as well. I still remember the minotaur in PoR dropping the Bullova, because... it's a bull! XD

Also, Fenrir and Glasya Labolas dropping hotdogs because (according to the description, if not the actual mythology), both are canines, and both come from Hell, so they're dogs from somewhere known for being hot!

I'm sure there are others.

[Persona Au Gratin]

I dunno man, Igarashi is Japanese, do they really understand the finer cultural nuance of hot dogs? Tsk, tsk.

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

引用自 Spawk：

引用自 prototype81：

Big stretches? Maybe to the untrained eye or the uncreative but this was most certainly intentional. Anyways this is a post meant for keen observers not nay sayers.

What's obvious to one may not be so obvious to another.

There's a cow statue in the game. Clearly a reference to 'like a bull in a china shop'. You can't swim in the blood fountain. Must be because blood is thicker than water. There's a cart in the game, so that must be in reference to 'don't put the cart in front of the horse'. And the kung fu shoes are likely a reference to 'if the shoe fits, wear it.'

Am I doing this right?

Considering Iga makes literal levels, weapons and monsters based off western and japanese puns and has done so nigh on thirty years, your sneery smarm isn't even in the right zipcode, much less on point.

[Melguppfin]

引用自 Spawk：

引用自 prototype81：

Big stretches? Maybe to the untrained eye or the uncreative but this was most certainly intentional. Anyways this is a post meant for keen observers not nay sayers.

What's obvious to one may not be so obvious to another.

There's a cow statue in the game. Clearly a reference to 'like a bull in a china shop'. You can't swim in the blood fountain. Must be because blood is thicker than water. There's a cart in the game, so that must be in reference to 'don't put the cart in front of the horse'. And the kung fu shoes are likely a reference to 'if the shoe fits, wear it.'

Am I doing this right?

Actually the cow statue's actually that of a bull. And I'm pretty sure that is in reference to a historic torture device. Just look up the Brazen Bull.

[prototype81]

I'm glad this is post is taking shape as intended and wasnt derailed. Thanks for the contributions so far, im enjoying reading them. :)

引用自 Melguppfin：

引用自 Spawk：

There's a cow statue in the game. Clearly a reference to 'like a bull in a china shop'. You can't swim in the blood fountain. Must be because blood is thicker than water. There's a cart in the game, so that must be in reference to 'don't put the cart in front of the horse'. And the kung fu shoes are likely a reference to 'if the shoe fits, wear it.'

Am I doing this right?

Actually the cow statue's actually that of a bull. And I'm pretty sure that is in reference to a historic torture device. Just look up the Brazen Bull.

You're very right as it fits right into the theme of the level it is found in.

[prototype81]

This is pretty cool, not really funny but just a nod to how Iga puts meaning into a lot of his work.
OD who is essentially Alucard from SoTn is voiced by the same person in both games.

[Mystic Myotis]

The flying pig is definitely a pun, but the final level is more likely a reference to the 9th circle of Hell. Edit: Especially with it being called a "tomb."

[biggs223]

especially considering that the 9th circle of hell is for a particuliar type of sinner