Is there an objectively "best" weapon?

[AH-1 Cobra]

What does the most DPS of any weapon? I played SOTN, and in that game it was the Crissaegrim and the Alucard shield (buffed with shield rod, this was the highest). Anything in this game as good as either of those two weapons in SOTN?

Also looking for recommendations for shards. Pretty sure the dullahan heads are the best in the familiar slot, but what about the others?

[CapsLockRAGE]

I use the blue rose(?) greatsword with greatsword mastery maxed out and hit for nearly 300+ on a really fast swing,

[Malkav0]

I barely use weapons at all now, shards do so much damages. Feral Attack + directional shard (void ray, chisel, etc...) + 8-bit flame pillar. I'll try hell hound given the comments

[Vagrant]

Joyeuse (+ spam Technique) >>> Rhava Velar.

[LadstonFelisGaming]

Here’s a list of the best-in-slot weapons solely based on attack power alone (So while the Oracle Blade and Rhava Velar aren’t listed, don’t discount them. Their gimmicks make them worth using if you’re so inclined), with the exception of the coin weapons:

Shoes: Hell’s Knells (45 ATK)
Daggers: Mandau Pasir (45 ATK)
Rapiers: Joyeuse (52 ATK)
Swords: Blue Rose (58 ATK)
Clubs: Mistilteinn (52 ATK)
Greatswords: Eternal Blue (84 ATK)
Katanas: Grand Izayoi (51 ATK)
Spears: Gae Assail (46 ATK)
Whips: Andromeda (52 ATK)
Firearms: Adrasteia (26 ATK + Bullets)

[Kyutaru]

I can see most weapons being useful.

Shoes: Easily avoid enemy attacks by bouncing on them. No damage clear for the win. Spam techniques in midair (the only ones that work in midair).

Daggers: Spam assassinate to win and you're effectively immortal.

Rapiers: Press X to Unleash Hell.

Swords: Pretty good variety of techniques, speed, and damage. The best all-arounders.

Greatswords: Not that slow with Optimizer enhancements and do high damage per hit to overcome defense.

Katana: Jinrai is OP.

Spears: Charge across the screen spamming stabs for as long as you hold down the button.

Whips: Hit everything everywhere in every direction.

Firearms: Rapid Fire Diamond Bullets with Recycle Hat will kill basically anything safely.


But what the hell are CLUBS for?? Who uses these things? Tryhards?

[Guldo]

引用自 LaddytheOutcast：

Here’s a list of the best-in-slot weapons solely based on attack power alone (So while the Oracle Blade and Rhava Velar aren’t listed, don’t discount them. Their gimmicks make them worth using if you’re so inclined), with the exception of the coin weapons:

Shoes: Hell’s Knells (45 ATK)
Daggers: Mandau Pasir (45 ATK)
Rapiers: Joyeuse (52 ATK)
Swords: Blue Rose (58 ATK)
Clubs: Mistilteinn (52 ATK)
Greatswords: Eternal Blue (84 ATK)
Katanas: Grand Izayoi (51 ATK)
Spears: Gae Assail (46 ATK)
Whips: Andromeda (52 ATK)
Firearms: Adrasteia (26 ATK + Bullets)

you got the grand izayoi wrong. it has 58 attack when you max it out and not 51.

[Nanashi]

引用自 DairunCates：

I mean, people think Crissaegrim is the strongest weapon in SoTN despite that not being true as well (even if we ignore that a maxed Muramasa can have 999 atk after 1 million swings). It's very likely not even close to the best, but people REALLY like seeing a lot of numbers.

Honestly even if it was highest DPS the fact that you have to button mash like crazy to actually get above the damage of endgame weapons is way too tedious for me.

[Hefutoxin]

引用自 Kyutaru：

But what the hell are CLUBS for?? Who uses these things? Tryhards?

Club is just a blunt damage sword, for game purposes.

[LadstonFelisGaming]

引用自 Manslayer49：

引用自 LaddytheOutcast：

Here’s a list of the best-in-slot weapons solely based on attack power alone (So while the Oracle Blade and Rhava Velar aren’t listed, don’t discount them. Their gimmicks make them worth using if you’re so inclined), with the exception of the coin weapons:

Shoes: Hell’s Knells (45 ATK)
Daggers: Mandau Pasir (45 ATK)
Rapiers: Joyeuse (52 ATK)
Swords: Blue Rose (58 ATK)
Clubs: Mistilteinn (52 ATK)
Greatswords: Eternal Blue (84 ATK)
Katanas: Grand Izayoi (51 ATK)
Spears: Gae Assail (46 ATK)
Whips: Andromeda (52 ATK)
Firearms: Adrasteia (26 ATK + Bullets)

you got the grand izayoi wrong. it has 58 attack when you max it out and not 51.

Am I to assume that it functions like SOTN’s Muramasa and gets more power as you absorb blood? If so, then that’s why the ATK value is what I listed it as. As mentioned in my previous post, the only katana I personally use is the Zangetsuto for the fight with Gremory. I also only use Blood Steal for draining the fountain, so the Izayoi’s power would be lower as a result.

[Guldo]

引用自 LaddytheOutcast：

引用自 Manslayer49：

you got the grand izayoi wrong. it has 58 attack when you max it out and not 51.

Am I to assume that it functions like SOTN’s Muramasa and gets more power as you absorb blood? If so, then that’s why the ATK value is what I listed it as. As mentioned in my previous post, the only katana I personally use is the Zangetsuto for the fight with Gremory. I also only use Blood Steal for draining the fountain, so the Izayoi’s power would be lower as a result.

yea it gets stronger as you absorb blood but its capped at 58. but boy if it wasnt capped it would even beat all shards in the game in terms of raw damage. lol could you imagine what would happen if you got it to 200 attack. it would be the best way of killing anything in the game period.

[Mystic Myotis]

Weapons worth noting (off the top of my head) are:
Sword: Encrypted Orchid, Valkyrie Sword/Bandit Blade (if you like the tech)
Dagger: Mandau Pasir (rapier is preferable unless you want access to dagger techs)
Rapier: Redbeast's Edge
G.Sword: Ukonvasara
Katana: Grand Izayoi
Spear: Sculptor's Chisel? Haven't played with spears much. Sanjiegun (if you like the tech)
Club: Mistilteinn or Prismatic Heart?
Shoes: Hell's Knells, Boreal Rime Boots, Oleanders
Whip: Ambivalence
Gun: Adrasteia, Renee's Requiem
Special: Shield, Oracle Blade, Rhava Velar, Swordwhip. Shield for defense, Oracle Blade/Swordwhip for range (guns are better, imo), Velar if you want a Criss build

I'm not sure if there's a difference between the two clubs listed, nor what the best shoes are. The Rime Boots have an annoying movement slowdown at the start of your walk/run attached to them and Oleanders do less damage but inflict poison.

[AH-1 Cobra]

引用自 Nanashi：

引用自 DairunCates：

I mean, people think Crissaegrim is the strongest weapon in SoTN despite that not being true as well (even if we ignore that a maxed Muramasa can have 999 atk after 1 million swings). It's very likely not even close to the best, but people REALLY like seeing a lot of numbers.

Honestly even if it was highest DPS the fact that you have to button mash like crazy to actually get above the damage of endgame weapons is way too tedious for me.

That's why I duel wielded them, then I would mash both buttons. Even if you got 999 with muramasa, it didn't beat duel wield button mash with crissaegrims.

[NormireX]

引用自 Manslayer49：

ok after testing the rhava velar on the carpenter(because the revenant moves into you messing up your combo) and then testing the grand izayois technique on revenant(because there isnt enough room for the sword rush skill) i have comcluded that they killed both enemies in under 3 seconds flat but the grand izayoi wins by default because it hits all enemies in front of you in a straight path.

gosh i think it kills the enemy just as fast as hell hound spam lol.

so yea the rhava velar loses. also the eternal blue loses and the grand champion weapon in the game is the grand izayoi yet again. you have your answer crimson edge have fun.

How do you get the recipe for Grand Izayoi? I have all the mats for it but seem to be missing the recipe.

[Guldo]

引用自 NormireX：

引用自 Manslayer49：

ok after testing the rhava velar on the carpenter(because the revenant moves into you messing up your combo) and then testing the grand izayois technique on revenant(because there isnt enough room for the sword rush skill) i have comcluded that they killed both enemies in under 3 seconds flat but the grand izayoi wins by default because it hits all enemies in front of you in a straight path.

gosh i think it kills the enemy just as fast as hell hound spam lol.

so yea the rhava velar loses. also the eternal blue loses and the grand champion weapon in the game is the grand izayoi yet again. you have your answer crimson edge have fun.

How do you get the recipe for Grand Izayoi? I have all the mats for it but seem to be missing the recipe.

i forgot because i have a bad memory when it comes to these sort of things.

but yea the rhava velar is over rated because i mean yea you can do tons of damage to a single enemy but it has no techs and no utility and thats why it loses to the grand izayoi. i can kill revenant just as quickly with the grand izayoi as i can the rhava velar by spamming jinrai is what i think its name is and it can hit everything in front of you in a straight line to boot.

to be honest the rhava velar really isnt that much superior than the spiral greatsord because in both ways its just a lot of chip damage with both. i mean you could beat the game with the spiral greatsword without issue but its not the best wich is the same reason why rhava velar is not the best.

just lots of numbers on screen. that is it.

[d_valroth]

Everything is broken. Just pick something you like, eventually you'll murder everything with it. I use Oracle Blade and it made a joke of Bael and O.D. he didn't even get a Time Steal off at all, and I was wearing my LUK gear, not even maxed for damage.

I do have to agree though that Son of Crissaegrim isn't great. It's like the one thing they realized was bonkers and nerfed it. It's merely good.