The best game in the series

[ProVegaGamer]

Just my opinion. Just as fun as the first version, but i like the music a bit better, storyline is cool, characters, etc.

[-={LG}=-]

Yep, it's a solid game all the way round. It won a lot of awards when it was released. The bad rap is just another example of internet mythology.

[ProVegaGamer]

-={LG}=- a écrit :

Yep, it's a solid game all the way round. It won a lot of awards when it was released. The bad rap is just another example of internet mythology.

I do believe a serious remastered is needed.

[Nardis]

In all seriousness the music is arguably the best in the series, for sure

[Ash Tré]

I know the "cool" opinion among Deus Ex fans is that Invisible War was worthless and stupid, and shouldn't even be considered a canonical game at all. But my own genuine perception is that it's a worthwhile game on its own right, and certainly a good story / gameplay overall. When I played it as a young guy, when it first came out, it was really enjoyable and made a noticeable impression on my perception of the world.

But whenever someone says something good about Invisible War, it's often treated with mockery and contempt. The peer pressure and desire to stick to the "popular" / "acceptable" opinion reminds me of the parable about the emperor's new clothes.

[Alucard †]

Yea despite some of it's issues it's one of my favorites in the series second after the OG Deus Ex.

[Alucard †]

Nardis a écrit :

In all seriousness the music is arguably the best in the series, for sure

Both HR and IW have great and most atmospheric music <3

[Nardis]

Alucard † a écrit :

Nardis a écrit :

In all seriousness the music is arguably the best in the series, for sure

Both HR and IW have great and most atmospheric music <3

The HR soundtrack is great but you can't beat a jukebox playing Kidney Thieves

[Alucard †]

Nardis a écrit :

Alucard † a écrit :

Both HR and IW have great and most atmospheric music <3

The HR soundtrack is great but you can't beat a jukebox playing Kidney Thieves

True

[Unseen]

Yea don't get the people who bash IW and praise deus. IW was the first one I played on xbox so I bought deus 1. What the hell they drop me in a really black plain with terrorists and a dinky pistol.

Its full of jank, I eventually decided just to buy this... I'll keep trying with deus but so far not that impressed compared to IW.

[Not So Serious]

DE definitely has IW beat in terms of gameplay, but it suffers in terms of having an extremely linear story, lackluster characters, and nonsensical plotline
When people mention it's open-endedness and player choice, I'm pretty sure they're referring to gameplay. Cause the story is painfully linear.

Meanwhile, Alex Denton felt like a better protagonist by leaps and bounds.
While Alex does suffer from a lack of defined character, same as JC, the amount of player choice in how Alex goes through the story is staggering. And amazing voice work from Laura Bailey really helps in make the character feel more expressive and invested than JC ever was.

I think the moment that made me realize my love for IW's open-ended story was a moment in the first hub area. A main mission had me visit the local club, while I was there I got word that there were some shady dealings happening in the ViP area.
So I did a job for the club's manager, that allowed me access up there. Where I discovered a Black Market organization called the Omar, who asked me to back-stab the club owner by stealing from his basement in exchange for a discount.
So after I back-stabbed the club owner on behalf of the Omar to get a discount at their store, I then back-stabbed them by exposing their dealings to a police informant for some extra cash.

That's when I realized that you had the option to play Alex as a complete wild-card; a master of manipulation and backstabbing. And proceeded to go through the entire game as a double-triple-quadruple agent that flipped allegiances whenever it was convenient. And the voice actor always had a line to explain their reasoning.

It's a bit funny.
DE is linear in story and open-ended in gameplay
Meanwhile IW is linear in gameplay but open-ended in story

[Unseen]

Yea the first deus is a fun and janky old-school with a lot of options. IW was the first deus I played and I wouldn't even be playing deus if it wasn't for iw.

Also deus is not a perfect game even for its time. The way people praise it in its forum is amazing given that it's just system shock 1/2 with more npcs. And a fed VS fringe meh storyline. I still like it and glad I bought it.. It is great in its structure and messing around. Lot of good weapons and multi purpose gadgets. But I tend to think people just have fondness for that specific game. It's storyline is just odd and awkward and the stereotypes of the 90s glare through. It's not as intelligent as these people say it is in storyline. Maybe gameplay and inventory functions. But why is it when people are a fan of something they act like it's dethroned all games ever made? System shock 1 a 90s pixel Sim had a more awesome storyline then wherever deus 1 is going. And IW, I'll beat deus before replaying it again but from what I remember on Xbox it wasn't a perfect game but it was good enough to entertain me to the end.

People just nestle into a game then exalt it over all other games I guess. I happen to think pathologic is a better immersive Sim than deus 1 but that's just cause I like its weird story and atmosphere. But deus is a hell of a technical game but the plot and storyline is just.... Kind of dull honestly, if it wasn't for the technical game play deus would be a pretty bland game. And some of the stuff makes no sense like his bro telling him to try not to kill terrorists with instant kill crossbow darts, or how terrible pretty much every weapon but the pistol feels.

I just don't get all the minus negatives for iw cause it's a fine game.

[Zero Vision]

Invisible war is the best deus ex for mee too, finally someone who shares my opinion! the menu soundtrack still gives me goosebumps, and the whole atmosphere is so much better than the first DX, I dont understand all the hate and trashtalk about this game, its amazing.

[ProVegaGamer]

Zero Vision a écrit :

Invisible war is the best deus ex for mee too, finally someone who shares my opinion! the menu soundtrack still gives me goosebumps, and the whole atmosphere is so much better than the first DX, I dont understand all the hate and trashtalk about this game, its amazing.

yea the menu soundtrack and soundtrack is amazing.

[Unseen]

Zero Vision a écrit :

Invisible war is the best deus ex for mee too, finally someone who shares my opinion! the menu soundtrack still gives me goosebumps, and the whole atmosphere is so much better than the first DX, I dont understand all the hate and trashtalk about this game, its amazing.

Not that the first deus is a bad game. It's fun to play around with the inventory system, and areas do feel open ended with a lot to explore.

But damn is it janky and a lot of weapons are awful besides the pistol. The flamethrower making you crawl basically. And then crossbow dudes you gotta scope and kill cheaply cause if they even pop you once. I mean it's a fun game, but I don't see how it's any better or worse than iw and the deep red negative seems like incredible spite considering the visible upgrade works fine.

[AtomicMnemonic]

LAPDAlonzo a écrit :

-={LG}=- a écrit :

Yep, it's a solid game all the way round. It won a lot of awards when it was released. The bad rap is just another example of internet mythology.

I do believe a serious remastered is needed.

Aye to that!