Deus Ex Remake

[Corvo_Ex]

Am I the only one who thinks that a remake of the first Deus Ex would be quite successful and would be a good way to relaunch the series?

The original is a classic and all you want, but it's notorious the seams in many aspects (graphics, animations, AI, gunplay, stealth, etc...).

[Kai]

Theyve been passing reboots as remakes nowadays, i.e. changing the original as per convenience. Thus, i dont want a modern day reboot of this unless they strictly and respectfully remake this 1:1. And it will take a massive undertaking and motivation to remake a game of this scale.

[goobie snoobert]

no. a remake in this day and age could never be faithful to a game like deus ex

[BadMojo]

I always thought a port to unreal engine 4 or 5 would be nice.. I would still like the "janky" stealth mechanics and gameplay of the original to stay intact, aswell as the voice acting, sounds and music (especially in the mod tracker format).. And I would want it to be backwards compatible to all of the mods like TNM, zodiac, gmdx and the likes.. But all that would be an impossible ask as they would have to make an interpreter for the old unreal script... Either that or more realistically, a port to the unreal engine that ut2004 runs off of, because that still supports unreal script and will give us much more modding capability aswell as static meshes to play with.

[Zelligaryan]

No it's a terrible idea

[HoboCop]

Absolutely not.

[ULTRA]

Maybe you could ask these people OP

[RedVomit]

They would never be able to capture the spirit of the original. It would be raped and embarrassed and put on display. All of the "new gamers of this age" would say that it's their version and that we had our time, and then abandon it for the next ADHD shooter thing. Terrible Idea. We need to keep our cherished secrets away from modern gamers.

[BadMojo]

Originally posted by SHIENHAUSSER:

They would never be able to capture the spirit of the original. It would be raped and embarrassed and put on display. All of the "new gamers of this age" would say that it's their version and that we had our time, and then abandon it for the next ADHD shooter thing. Terrible Idea. We need to keep our cherished secrets away from modern gamers.

I agree.. But.. There's a difference between what they did with say, the doom reboot... Now all of a sudden doom has a lame storyline, weird complex game mechanics and some objectable music that is now become the only doom music and the old midis are nothing anymore... Not gonna rant on about it, but as an avid original doom fan, I feel ya when it comes to this sort of thing.... But don't forget there have been some really faithful "reboots" or somewhat "official source ports".. The Turok series comes to mind, day of the tentacle, system shock (the source port of the dos version, not the latest reboot), quake... Do this sort of thing with deusex so that we don't need to fk around with renderers and launchers and ini settings.. That would be nice, in a perfect world.

Rant1: And just to clarify my thoughts a little.... Revision is NOT a reboot.. It's just a mod that the kids these days have taken to and are trying to replace the original with.. I'm literally looking at my brain because the eyeroll is strong with this one

Rant2: and speaking of revision.. It's funny how you get people on here that don't want to mod (even if it's the essentials like renderer and maybe launcher).. And yet their the same people that reccomend revision *face palm*

[Corvo_Ex]

Originally posted by BadMojo:

Originally posted by SHIENHAUSSER:

They would never be able to capture the spirit of the original. It would be raped and embarrassed and put on display. All of the "new gamers of this age" would say that it's their version and that we had our time, and then abandon it for the next ADHD shooter thing. Terrible Idea. We need to keep our cherished secrets away from modern gamers.

I agree.. But.. There's a difference between what they did with say, the doom reboot... Now all of a sudden doom has a lame storyline, weird complex game mechanics and some objectable music that is now become the only doom music and the old midis are nothing anymore... Not gonna rant on about it, but as an avid original doom fan, I feel ya when it comes to this sort of thing.... But don't forget there have been some really faithful "reboots" or somewhat "official source ports".. The Turok series comes to mind, day of the tentacle, system shock (the source port of the dos version, not the latest reboot), quake... Do this sort of thing with deusex so that we don't need to fk around with renderers and launchers and ini settings.. That would be nice, in a perfect world.

Rant1: And just to clarify my thoughts a little.... Revision is NOT a reboot.. It's just a mod that the kids these days have taken to and are trying to replace the original with.. I'm literally looking at my brain because the eyeroll is strong with this one

Rant2: and speaking of revision.. It's funny how you get people on here that don't want to mod (even if it's the essentials like renderer and maybe launcher).. And yet their the same people that reccomend revision *face palm*

Deus Ex remake made by Nightdive Studios could be a great thing, you can see what good updates they have made to classics like System Shock, Shadowman or Exhumed.

[HoboCop]

Originally posted by Corvo_Ex:

remake by Nightdive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5wNaoRs8sI

[zorri]

Originally posted by BadMojo:

Originally posted by SHIENHAUSSER:

They would never be able to capture the spirit of the original. It would be raped and embarrassed and put on display. All of the "new gamers of this age" would say that it's their version and that we had our time, and then abandon it for the next ADHD shooter thing. Terrible Idea. We need to keep our cherished secrets away from modern gamers.

I agree.. But.. There's a difference between what they did with say, the doom reboot... Now all of a sudden doom has a lame storyline, weird complex game mechanics and some objectable music that is now become the only doom music and the old midis are nothing anymore... Not gonna rant on about it, but as an avid original doom fan, I feel ya when it comes to this sort of thing.... But don't forget there have been some really faithful "reboots" or somewhat "official source ports".. The Turok series comes to mind, day of the tentacle, system shock (the source port of the dos version, not the latest reboot), quake... Do this sort of thing with deusex so that we don't need to fk around with renderers and launchers and ini settings.. That would be nice, in a perfect world.

Rant1: And just to clarify my thoughts a little.... Revision is NOT a reboot.. It's just a mod that the kids these days have taken to and are trying to replace the original with.. I'm literally looking at my brain because the eyeroll is strong with this one

Rant2: and speaking of revision.. It's funny how you get people on here that don't want to mod (even if it's the essentials like renderer and maybe launcher).. And yet their the same people that reccomend revision *face palm*

ur insane if u think new doom games are bad, new ost and lore are insane

[BadMojo]

New ost and lore has ruined the franchise,
the specific ways you need to take on enemies, the generic console style boss battles, the arcade style mini games and don't get me started on the multiplayer.. What happened to deathmatch and coop? ... It's lost its original charm in my opinion and has turned into something else, like
a Serious Sam game or something.. But everyone has their own opinion on it.. I just happen to be in the %1 club I guess *shrugs*

[ULTRA]

Originally posted by Corvo_Ex:

Originally posted by BadMojo:

I agree.. But.. There's a difference between what they did with say, the doom reboot... Now all of a sudden doom has a lame storyline, weird complex game mechanics and some objectable music that is now become the only doom music and the old midis are nothing anymore... Not gonna rant on about it, but as an avid original doom fan, I feel ya when it comes to this sort of thing.... But don't forget there have been some really faithful "reboots" or somewhat "official source ports".. The Turok series comes to mind, day of the tentacle, system shock (the source port of the dos version, not the latest reboot), quake... Do this sort of thing with deusex so that we don't need to fk around with renderers and launchers and ini settings.. That would be nice, in a perfect world.

Rant1: And just to clarify my thoughts a little.... Revision is NOT a reboot.. It's just a mod that the kids these days have taken to and are trying to replace the original with.. I'm literally looking at my brain because the eyeroll is strong with this one

Rant2: and speaking of revision.. It's funny how you get people on here that don't want to mod (even if it's the essentials like renderer and maybe launcher).. And yet their the same people that reccomend revision *face palm*

Deus Ex remake made by Nightdive Studios could be a great thing, you can see what good updates they have made to classics like System Shock, Shadowman or Exhumed.

You're talking to a guy that's pissed about Doom music switching from thrash metal to djent, I don't think he's gonna take kindly to Rule of Cool hipsters from Vancouver WA that think the soundtrack to System Shock was full of ambient space music.

If Nightdive did a remake of Deus Ex, it'd have animated executions and rock music, JC would look at his hands for 7.2 seconds every time he picked something up or used a medkit, everything would be covered in lens flares because that's totally what games looked like back then on purpose, the melee range would be halved for no reason and their fix to this would be making enemies bobble like punching bags when you hit them, they'd promise a gender selection at release which wouldn't show up for at least a year, the menus wouldn't be scalable, you wouldn't be able to skip any dialogue or cutscenes until a patch, it would take 10 years to make and the forums would be policed via unpaid Czech Discord mods conducting raids and calling people entitled for wanting the game within a half decade of its estimated release.

[ULTRA]

Originally posted by BadMojo:

New ost and lore has ruined the franchise,
the specific ways you need to take on enemies, the generic console style boss battles, the arcade style mini games and don't get me started on the multiplayer.. What happened to deathmatch and coop? ... It's lost its original charm in my opinion and has turned into something else, like
a Serious Sam game or something.. But everyone has their own opinion on it.. I just happen to be in the %1 club I guess *shrugs*

I agree a billion percent, "based" as the kids say

[BadMojo]

Originally posted by ULTRA:

Originally posted by Corvo_Ex:

Deus Ex remake made by Nightdive Studios could be a great thing, you can see what good updates they have made to classics like System Shock, Shadowman or Exhumed.

You're talking to a guy that's pissed about Doom music switching from thrash metal to djent, I don't think he's gonna take kindly to Rule of Cool hipsters from Vancouver WA that think the soundtrack to System Shock was full of ambient space music.

If Nightdive did a remake of Deus Ex, it'd have animated executions and rock music, JC would look at his hands for 7.2 seconds every time he picked something up or used a medkit, everything would be covered in lens flares because that's totally what games looked like back then on purpose, the melee range would be halved for no reason and their fix to this would be making enemies bobble like punching bags when you hit them, they'd promise a gender selection at release which wouldn't show up for at least a year, the menus wouldn't be scalable, you wouldn't be able to skip any dialogue or cutscenes until a patch, it would take 10 years to make and the forums would be policed via unpaid Czech Discord mods conducting raids and calling people entitled for wanting the game within a half decade of its estimated release.

Actually, I was kinda defending Nightdive somewhat... just a little bit, we are on the same page though.. Turok was a great port of an old game I never expected to get any love.. But, yea they did change the maps by either removing some sections or rearranging them to "accommodate" the kids short attention spans these days *eyeroll*.... then again they did open up to the steam workshop, which in turn allowed the community to bring it back to the original deign.... but then again, they didnt end up doing the same for Turok2.... *sigh*.. its a hit and miss with ND really, I do agree with you, but just with a little more optimism lol

They couldnt do a port of Deus Ex anyway, not with their engine.. it wouldnt be right for it not to be the Unreal Engine, be it a simple upgrade to UE2 or 3, or a full overhaul to UE4 or 5.. to which there is an active project in the works that you can download and play now by a lonesome member of the community.

Originally posted by ULTRA:

Originally posted by BadMojo:

New ost and lore has ruined the franchise,
the specific ways you need to take on enemies, the generic console style boss battles, the arcade style mini games and don't get me started on the multiplayer.. What happened to deathmatch and coop? ... It's lost its original charm in my opinion and has turned into something else, like
a Serious Sam game or something.. But everyone has their own opinion on it.. I just happen to be in the %1 club I guess *shrugs*

I agree a billion percent, "based" as the kids say

This warms my heart to know Im not alone... Even a good friend of mine, also an avid og doom fan, to whom I thought shared my opinion.. does not in fact, share my opinion of the new doom games... we are not friends anymore (joking lol)