GMDX or New vision?

[Abutreca]

I installed everything that says here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=144316078

Now that people are using this mod: http://www.moddb.com/mods/gmdx/news/gmdxv90-released

Which one is better?

With the guide I cant see subtitles on cutscenes and game freezes a lot when alt-tabing

[BadMojo]

what are you trying to accomplish, a modded Deus ex with changes to the skill system, AI, weapons, Aug's, ect ect.. or just simply get it running on your PC with just a few things to make it look nice?

I can help with both.

[Abutreca]

My first time playing it. I just want the game to run fluidly.

[BadMojo]

You need this to launch the game, replace your deusex.exe with it: http://kentie.net/article/dxguide/

Download this renderer, extract it in the same directory as your deusex.exe and set the renderer to direct3d 10 in the launcher settings: http://kentie.net/article/d3d10drv/

Run the game and let me know if it works... Then we will get new vision on, it's just a texture pack.. Fine for vanilla gaming imho

[Abutreca]

Thats on the guide I already used.

So GMDX changes skill system, AI, weapons, aug's, ect.? Is it recommended to use it for first run?

[BadMojo]

I wouldn't recommend it for first run.

OK so if directx10 isn't working right try one of these and set your renderer to either opengl or direct3d9: http://www.cwdohnal.com/utglr/

Oh yea and try borderless widescreen, I think there's an option in the launcher for it.

[Abutreca]

Thanks, I'll play it without it.

Despite subs not showing on cutscenes, my game runs flawlessly. Just had to activate the vsync.

[Francisè von Spitroast]

Yeah just to confirm what BadMojo said, GMDX is a total overhaul and very, very different to the og game. New Vision is nothing but new textures for the world so he's right. You can also get HDTP which changes all the character models (optional), all objects and all weapon skins which I highly recommend.

[BadMojo]

Originally posted by Abutreca:

Thanks, I'll play it without it.

Despite subs not showing on cutscenes, my game runs flawlessly. Just had to activate the vsync.

Could also try disabling that vsync and capping the framerate to something like 60 or 120 within the launcher. Or JizzTheWizz suggested in another thread to use "fast vsync" from within the nvidia control panel, if thats the brand of gpu your using, its not a bad option if you need vsync but hate the mouse lag, but use it wisely in other games... fallout 4 doesn't like it much at all, trust me :/

Originally posted by JizzTheWizz:

Yeah just to confirm what BadMojo said, GMDX is a total overhaul and very, very different to the og game. New Vision is nothing but new textures for the world so he's right. You can also get HDTP which changes all the character models (optional), all objects and all weapon skins which I highly recommend.

Theres also that SweetFX thing that people talk about too in one of those "modern system guides"... avoid that ♥♥♥♥ like the plague though, its nothing but post processing eye candy clutter.

I think we need a simple "Deus ex Vanilla for modern systems" guide for threads like these, those other guides just complicate things further.

[Francisè von Spitroast]

Originally posted by BadMojo:

Originally posted by Abutreca:

Thanks, I'll play it without it.

Despite subs not showing on cutscenes, my game runs flawlessly. Just had to activate the vsync.

Could also try disabling that vsync and capping the framerate to something like 60 or 120 within the launcher. Or JizzTheWizz suggested in another thread to use "fast vsync" from within the nvidia control panel, if thats the brand of gpu your using, its not a bad option if you need vsync but hate the mouse lag, but use it wisely in other games... fallout 4 doesn't like it much at all, trust me :/

Originally posted by JizzTheWizz:

Yeah just to confirm what BadMojo said, GMDX is a total overhaul and very, very different to the og game. New Vision is nothing but new textures for the world so he's right. You can also get HDTP which changes all the character models (optional), all objects and all weapon skins which I highly recommend.

Theres also that SweetFX thing that people talk about too in one of those "modern system guides"... avoid that ♥♥♥♥ like the plague though, its nothing but post processing eye candy clutter.

I think we need a simple "Deus ex Vanilla for modern systems" guide for threads like these, those other guides just complicate things further.

Yup. Right on the money. 200fps is the maximum you can go to before the game starts speeding up too fast, but you're right nothing more than 120 is really necessary.
And yeah, SweetFX is disgusting. DirectX10 by default has something similar but you can disable that pretty easily.
I think I might make a guide soon. The confusion is unreal and some people say things that aren't always true.

[BadMojo]

Originally posted by JizzTheWizz:

Originally posted by BadMojo:

Could also try disabling that vsync and capping the framerate to something like 60 or 120 within the launcher. Or JizzTheWizz suggested in another thread to use "fast vsync" from within the nvidia control panel, if thats the brand of gpu your using, its not a bad option if you need vsync but hate the mouse lag, but use it wisely in other games... fallout 4 doesn't like it much at all, trust me :/



Theres also that SweetFX thing that people talk about too in one of those "modern system guides"... avoid that ♥♥♥♥ like the plague though, its nothing but post processing eye candy clutter.

I think we need a simple "Deus ex Vanilla for modern systems" guide for threads like these, those other guides just complicate things further.

Yup. Right on the money. 200fps is the maximum you can go to before the game starts speeding up too fast, but you're right nothing more than 120 is really necessary.
And yeah, SweetFX is disgusting. DirectX10 by default has something similar but you can disable that pretty easily.
I think I might make a guide soon. The confusion is unreal and some people say things that aren't always true.

The option is ClassicLighting I believe, turn that to false and that'll disable most of the bloom and crap.

A new guide would be good, for just getting the game running without the other clutter.. If it got pinned to the top of the forum, that would be even better.

Oh and some small print at the bottom mentioning how laptops are a hit and miss with the game.. It's usually those people that have the most trouble getting it running.

[Sineye]

Originally posted by JizzTheWizz:

Yeah just to confirm what BadMojo said, GMDX is a total overhaul and very, very different to the og game.

GMDX isn't a total overhaul, it just fixes the shortcomings of the original. It makes the game more welcoming to the newcomers, gives a fair bit of challenge for experienced players and doesn't change the core gameplay.

Originally posted by Abutreca:

So GMDX changes skill system, AI, weapons, aug's, ect.? Is it recommended to use it for first run?

Skill system has been made all around better (Swimming, called athletics there, has a certain niche for example).

The AI changes fit within the game limits. For example, the enemies won't "magically" know where you are after being spotted by a single person.

Gunplay feels more fun, due to improved sounds and recoil.

Naturally, vanilla is still a great game, but it's worth noting that GMDX fixes many bugs which plague the original.

[BadMojo]

Originally posted by Sineye:

GMDX isn't a total overhaul, it just fixes the shortcomings of the original. It makes the game more welcoming to the newcomers, gives a fair bit of challenge for experienced players and doesn't change the core gameplay.

I wouldnt say its more welcoming to new players, and as for it fixing bugs, well thats pretty debatable. As for what genre to put it in, the only thing missing for it to be a total overhaul is the fact that its still essentially deus ex, but its close enough imho.

Either way, people should experience vanilla at least twice before delving into mods and such :)

[Sineye]

Originally posted by BadMojo:

[quote=Sineye;1470840994978634481
(...) and as for it fixing bugs, well thats pretty debatable.

It does fix bugs, but DX's coding is a bit messy, some more problems may occur.

Originally posted by BadMojo:

[quote=Sineye;1470840994978634481
Either way, people should experience vanilla at least twice before delving into mods and such :)

I agree, but each player is different, so twice isn't truly a rule.

[BadMojo]

Originally posted by Sineye:

I agree, but each player is different, so twice isn't truly a rule.

Yea for sure... more is preferable ;P

[Francisè von Spitroast]

Originally posted by Sineye:

Originally posted by JizzTheWizz:

Yeah just to confirm what BadMojo said, GMDX is a total overhaul and very, very different to the og game.

GMDX isn't a total overhaul, it just fixes the shortcomings of the original. It makes the game more welcoming to the newcomers, gives a fair bit of challenge for experienced players and doesn't change the core gameplay.

Originally posted by Abutreca:

So GMDX changes skill system, AI, weapons, aug's, ect.? Is it recommended to use it for first run?

Skill system has been made all around better (Swimming, called athletics there, has a certain niche for example).

The AI changes fit within the game limits. For example, the enemies won't "magically" know where you are after being spotted by a single person.

Gunplay feels more fun, due to improved sounds and recoil.

Naturally, vanilla is still a great game, but it's worth noting that GMDX fixes many bugs which plague the original.

That's not true. It is a total overhaul. It redesigns the graphics, audio vastly and a vast amount of gameplay elements. It's not for a first playthrough either. It's also not Deus Ex. It makes so many changes the gameplay just isn't Deus Ex anymore, especially when it has so many different design choices in its RPG systems and such that were never meant to be implemented or were never in the design goals for the original game.