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Symatrix Hill 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 3:03
My Farmer could not find any wheat nearby the farm building parts.
I build the building and paint a big big area yellow and then i hire 3 farmer and then they run in the farm house and stay there and a message pop up " could not find any wheat nearby the farm parts.

I load back several times and place out a new farm building and that same message pop up again and again and by the way i am able to place 50 house in that big yellow farm zone so what is wrong here ?

By the way this is my first farm building.
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Zoid 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 3:05 
The farms follow a global cycle. You just have to wait a little while until it's time to sow the seeds for the next time.
Symatrix Hill 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 3:32 
I start up week 1 day 1 and they didn`t start to make wheat before out in week 3.

May i ask how many windmill each farm or the opposite + bakery ?
Zoid 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 3:42 
There is no fixed rule as it always depends on the rank of the villagers (serfs work a bit more than commoner), where they live and satisfy their needs and how far the transport distances are.

I would start with 2-3 farms, 1 mill and 2-3 bakers and then see where there are shortages or surpluses.
Symatrix Hill 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 4:34 
引用自 Zoid
There is no fixed rule as it always depends on the rank of the villagers (serfs work a bit more than commoner), where they live and satisfy their needs and how far the transport distances are.

I would start with 2-3 farms, 1 mill and 2-3 bakers and then see where there are shortages or surpluses.


Ok ty so much for the info and by the way that message " could not find any wheat "t should not pop up , you may swap it to we need more time to prepare or something because i wait some few days in the game before i make this post and what i didn`t know was i needed to wait 2 fully weeks and how do we gonna know that without any info in the game if you catch my point.
Zoid 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 4:43 
The game does not yet explain some things properly. The user interface is currently undergoing a complete overhaul, as soon as the new one is ready things will be more understandable.

Regarding this particular error message:
It's quite correct. Your farmers can't find any wheat. Either because it's a new farm and they haven't planted any or because they have planted less than they could handle.
The farm window also shows the current phase of the farm (sowing, growing, harvesting, rest) but you won't look for it if you are not aware of the existence of these phases.
Symatrix Hill 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 7:56 
引用自 Zoid
The game does not yet explain some things properly. The user interface is currently undergoing a complete overhaul, as soon as the new one is ready things will be more understandable.

Regarding this particular error message:
It's quite correct. Your farmers can't find any wheat. Either because it's a new farm and they haven't planted any or because they have planted less than they could handle.
The farm window also shows the current phase of the farm (sowing, growing, harvesting, rest) but you won't look for it if you are not aware of the existence of these phases.


Error meeage is far away from correct dude. If they need to preper their farming work then the game need to say so and not i don`t find this or that or other stuff.

And what is that wheat stuff about , cant find it dude that make no sense. I hire farmer and i expect they have all stuff they need to do their work or do i say : i suppose you have add all stuff they need to do their work into the mechanics.

-- As far i know i am not able to buy any wheat anyplace in the game and then say we can`t find any wheat , that is wrong mechanics.

What they should say is : we need time to prepare the work and time - wheat - other stuff doesn`t matter for me because that is in the mechanics and i can`t buy any of those stuff they need so don`t tell me " It's quite correct " because that is basically incorrect message who make us player frustration because we don`t know all stuff you devs have add to the mechanics and as you know this is a game and not real life where you from time to time don`t find stuff in your home or inside your car or at your work or in the store.

-- So where did they find their wheat and all other stuff they strongly need whatever it may be huhh, dude i say it one more time that message is clearly technically incorrect because we don`t know where they gonna find all those wheat or when they gonna find theirs wheat or what we can do to help them find their wheat , do you see my point here Zoid or do i talking to a wall !!!

This is a game don`t let us forget that Zoid and all game need to give correct information so that we can move on without making a post in the community because of misleading information.

-- And in my case they use 14 days exact to find their wheat and start up their work and after few days in the game i was sure this was a bug and 14 days in the game is long time and by the way how hard can it be for a farmer to track their wheat, may i ask !

To hire 3 farmer who gonna need 14 days to track wheat is a big economic lost so what is the thinking here may i ask ?

I understand if they need to start up the next day or at monday morning but not 14 days because they was not able to find their wheat or buy it.
最后由 Symatrix Hill 编辑于; 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 8:14
Zoid 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 8:13 
I already said that the game doesn't explain some things correctly and that this will definitely change until the full version is released.

A new player doesn't know that this global cycle exists, the game should tell him.
But if you know that there is a cycle and you know that it is displayed in the farm then the message makes sense.
They want to harvest something, but there is nothing they can harvest, so they complain about it.
Symatrix Hill 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 8:20 
All game with farm have farming cycle but they don`t use 14 days to track seed we can`t buy in the mechanics so when the game tell me they can`t find it is just so wrong.
Zoid 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 8:48 
The point is that it is a global cycle.

Imagine if the game had real seasons.
If you build a farm in the middle of the year and your farmers are standing on an empty field with a combine harvester in autumn and tell you that they can't find any wheat, the problem is obvious. They can't find any because they haven't grown any, because the farm didn't exist at seed time.
On the other hand, if they were standing there in the spring and complaining about the lack of wheat, it would be self-explanatory that they are concerned about the lack of seeds (In this game you don't need seeds).
If you do not know about the global cycle then no other error code (that fits into the window) would help you either.


But as I said, the UI is going to be reworked, the game will explain things better and show connections better after that.
Symatrix Hill 2020 年 5 月 22 日 上午 11:14 
I have explain my point , 14 days 3 worker zero profit and that because they didn`t find any wheat because of that bad mechanics and by the way this is the onlygame with farming i have play with that issue and zero info as well.
And here we have summer all day long each day so what was the issue and by the way what about those 3 worker who running around and looking after those wheat in the game mechanics that make no sense - 3 worker 14 days + zero profit and by the way they loking after wheat and not the wheat seed.

The miller gonna have those wheat and the farmer those seeds do that make more sense mate.

Either you change that stupid mechanics or give us info about it and then we is able to let them do some other stuff.

-- Anyway i gonna be very happy if you dimming down that strong green ugly color who pop up when we gonna try to place out the farm and paint farming zone , the map merge together and we are not able to see a damn thing mate except that strong green color everyplace.


Take care and have a nice day Zoid.
Nuke 2020 年 6 月 9 日 下午 4:26 
Since today I got the same problem. I got the yellow farming zone around the farm but the wheat doesnt start growing in two full months. I deleted the farm and built it once again but its still the same problem. 3 farmers in the building, nothing happens. So im stuck in the savegame without beeing able to produce bread, which i need to reach the next part in game. I played the game in an earlier version and when I builded the farm the wheat growed so this is definitely a big mistake. Is there any kind of troubleshooting or help without having to restart the game?
Zoid 2020 年 6 月 9 日 下午 4:45 
引用自 NuclearTekk
Since today I got the same problem. I got the yellow farming zone around the farm but the wheat doesnt start growing in two full months. I deleted the farm and built it once again but its still the same problem. 3 farmers in the building, nothing happens. So im stuck in the savegame without beeing able to produce bread, which i need to reach the next part in game. I played the game in an earlier version and when I builded the farm the wheat growed so this is definitely a big mistake. Is there any kind of troubleshooting or help without having to restart the game?


Above the button to paint the field is the current status of the farm displayed: Sawing, growing, harvesting and rest.
Wait until the next time it's time for sowing and then check what your farmers are doing and if they are stopped from working for any reason.
Symatrix Hill 2020 年 6 月 9 日 下午 5:28 
引用自 NuclearTekk
Since today I got the same problem. I got the yellow farming zone around the farm but the wheat doesnt start growing in two full months. I deleted the farm and built it once again but its still the same problem. 3 farmers in the building, nothing happens. So im stuck in the savegame without beeing able to produce bread, which i need to reach the next part in game. I played the game in an earlier version and when I builded the farm the wheat growed so this is definitely a big mistake. Is there any kind of troubleshooting or help without having to restart the game?


When i start up the game for the very first time i notice the farmer use less than 1 week to start up so i restart the game to get a better and more effectively town but now it take 14 days no matter what i am doing because they have some stupid hidden mechanics in the game we don`t know about so the farm start up depend when we build the farm and place farmer inside.

-- That mechanics they strongly need to change to make it sensible in a way we all understand.
Skunk Monkey 2020 年 6 月 10 日 上午 9:04 
It makes perfect sense once you understand where the information is and how the mechanic works. Zoid has gone to great lengths to explain this but is seems some of you just can't grasp the concept.

There are 4 states that a farm goes though each season: Sowing, Growing, Harvesting, Rest.

When you complete a farm, it could be during any one of those four states. As Zoid pointed out, this information is shown in the Farm window just below the list of workers.

Farm State: Harvesting

Now, when a Farm finishes building, it will be in whatever the global state was at that time. This means it could be finished building during the Harvest state which the farmers can't do because they haven't had a Sowing state yet, so they complain they can't find wheat. Now depending on what state was current when the farm is complete, you may need to wait an entire season before they start Sowing wheat.

Now, as far as providing information to the users, it is very normal for games still in development to have little to no user help/tutorials because anything written at that early state can end up being wasted work because of changes. There are a number of things that are very different now as opposed to when this game first appeared on Steam. Any work they would have put in writing an explanation or tutorial for those elements would have been all wasted. Once parts of the game are solidified into a final form, they can start writing help text.

If these kinds of issues are hard for you to handle, I would suggest you avoid Early Access games in the future as they really aren't for you.
Nuke 2020 年 6 月 10 日 下午 12:12 
My farm went through the cycle from sowing to harvesting about five times. Nothing happens in V1.5. BUT i changed to the preview V1.6 and the farm works. The disadvantage, my savegame from V1.5 cannot be used and i had to resart.

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