Do villager job levels actually have any effect?

[ash]

If yes, can you point me to update/patch notes etc that indicate what benefit higher levels actually provide? I can't find any mention of job levels (via searching for level) in the in game help.

NOTE I am referring to villager job levels, NOT status levels such as Serf, Commoner, Citizen.

If this confuses you, click on your lumber camp and notice each woodcutter has a job level eg: "level 2" associated with them. I am asking about this.

Came back recently to try the 1.0 release. I remember asking this about 4 years ago and the answer back then was not implemented yet.

[Maykko]

I'm not 100% certain, but I think it increases their work speed and their efficiency.

[ash]

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I'm not 100% certain, but I think it increases their work speed and their efficiency.

Yes that's what anyone would expect levels to do. But what evidence is there of that?

For example I swap my 3 level 5 lumberjacks with new level 1 workers and I can't see any clear productivity change.

Have they in fact just forgot to remove that from the UI ie the feature is still not implemented even in 1.0 ?

[Phytoseiulus Persimilis]

There is a little circle in the workplace windows to show the efficiency of the workers. Red is bad, green is good.

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There is a little circle in the workplace windows to show the efficiency of the workers. Red is bad, green is good.

Yes but that doesn't have anything to do with the worker level. It just shows you if the workplace is fully staffed and if the villager's title corresponds with thier job status. When you build a lumbercamp and assign 3 random villagers the circle is instantly full.

[ash]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Phytoseiulus Persimilis:

There is a little circle in the workplace windows to show the efficiency of the workers. Red is bad, green is good.

Yes but that doesn't have anything to do with the worker level. It just shows you if the workplace is fully staffed and if the villager's title corresponds with thier job status. When you build a lumbercamp and assign 3 random villagers the circle is instantly full.

Yes exactly, I'm asking about the benefit of higher villager levels specifically.

The circle is just showing the percentage of capacity based on number of workers assigned from what I can see. So full circle = 3 out of 3 lumberjacks assigned.

When I hover over the circle it also never displays more than 100%, even for a 3 level 5 lumberjacks.

[Maehlice]

A Commoner doing a Serf's job won't see any boost to productivity, but a Serf doing a Commoner's job is less productive.

[Nekolodian]

The job efficiency maxes out at 100%, which is achieved with a full workforce of the jobs preferred "job level" as you put it.
There is no benefit for putting a citizen in a commoner position, for example.
The main reason you'd want to "level up" people in lower jobs is that they pay more in taxes

[Ninjafroggie]

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The job efficiency maxes out at 100%, which is achieved with a full workforce of the jobs preferred "job level" as you put it.
There is no benefit for putting a citizen in a commoner position, for example.
The main reason you'd want to "level up" people in lower jobs is that they pay more in taxes

so if im understanding this correctly, you dont lose anything by having higher leveled ppl doing a job, only underleveled ones? Therefore, you could upgrade everyone to citizen without issue so long as you can provide all the goods and housing needed? I've been going to each workplace and only promoting people to the required level and leaving everyone else as a serf

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Nekolodian:

The job efficiency maxes out at 100%, which is achieved with a full workforce of the jobs preferred "job level" as you put it.
There is no benefit for putting a citizen in a commoner position, for example.
The main reason you'd want to "level up" people in lower jobs is that they pay more in taxes

so if im understanding this correctly, you dont lose anything by having higher leveled ppl doing a job, only underleveled ones? Therefore, you could upgrade everyone to citizen without issue so long as you can provide all the goods and housing needed? I've been going to each workplace and only promoting people to the required level and leaving everyone else as a serf

Yes, your conclusion is correct but you guys aren't answering the original question.

Leveling up villagers is NOT the same as promoting them. You can promote villagers to Commoner or Citizen, but villagers also have a job level that is increased by doing the same job for a longer period of time. For production jobs (like woodcutter) the max level seems to be 6, and the OP asked how this affects the game.

So far I think the answer is: no one really knows and if there is a positive effect on productivity it's very minimal.

[glass zebra]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av Nekolodian:

The job efficiency maxes out at 100%, which is achieved with a full workforce of the jobs preferred "job level" as you put it.
There is no benefit for putting a citizen in a commoner position, for example.
The main reason you'd want to "level up" people in lower jobs is that they pay more in taxes

so if im understanding this correctly, you dont lose anything by having higher leveled ppl doing a job, only underleveled ones? Therefore, you could upgrade everyone to citizen without issue so long as you can provide all the goods and housing needed? I've been going to each workplace and only promoting people to the required level and leaving everyone else as a serf

Promoted villages have more needs, usually making them spend more time taking care of those needs, making them less efficient workers. It is also easier to give serfs residential areas close to work, due to those houses not caring about the proximity.

Promoted villagers pay a lot more taxes and eliminate the work speed malus from jobs made for those promoted villagers, so it depends on what you want out of someone: money+some "higher" job efficiency vs efficiency in "lower" jobs and easier housing.

[Trent]

I would love to know as well. Ive never been able to tell a difference by watching.

BTW people OP is talking about job levels gained from experience not class levels you promote them to.

[Ninjafroggie]

castle gaurds need to be max level to get promoted, but other than that i dont think it matters

[Chad Summerchild]

The only time I've had level matter is the one quest that pops up from the fishing village requesting blueprints from one of your builders. My builder at the time was level 4 and the chance to succeed was 90%

When I created a new game and received the same quest at an earlier stage in the game, my builder was level 3 and I had an 80% chance to succeed in creating the blueprints.

Other than that I haven't seen any differences in the worker's level of a job.

[ash]

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A Commoner doing a Serf's job won't see any boost to productivity, but a Serf doing a Commoner's job is less productive.

Sorry but Serf and Commoner are statuses, not job levels. This is completely irrelevant to my question.,

[ash]

Opprinnelig skrevet av Nekolodian:

The job efficiency maxes out at 100%, which is achieved with a full workforce of the jobs preferred "job level" as you put it.
There is no benefit for putting a citizen in a commoner position, for example.
The main reason you'd want to "level up" people in lower jobs is that they pay more in taxes

You have also not read my question carefully and have obviously missed this in game.

It's not "how I put it". It is nothing to do with Serf, Commoner, Citizen.

If you look at your villager details you will see they have a level associated with their current job (ie level 2) and progress bar showing how far they are to the next level. I am asking what effect higher job levels actually have.