Why is milk and cheese production not enough?

[WaapS]

I think I have as many cows as my population. I have 7 milk and 3 cheese production buildings. Interestingly, cheese is not enough.
There is one cow per person :D But people consume cheese instead of milk, that's not the issue, but cheese is not enough and I think it's a bug

Instead of buying several acres of land, build any production building there, for example "Kinstone Abbey" sells cheese for 8 gold. If I do an external honey production and herb production, it makes sense to buy cheese for 8 gold.
I think this needs to be fixed.

[Doc_Hotpants]

F A T B $ $ $ R T D の投稿を引用：

refined food production is NEEEEVER enough
you always have to IMPORT them from outside

nah

[WaapS]

I don't think production is working properly. I think this is valid not only for cheese but also for other products. I wish there was a page where I could see the supply/demand chart like anno.

Another example, when I buy 200 pigs from outside, 1 butcher shop is enough. (287 population and as some say, it is not used for any other production like taverns. I only mentioned and am talking about meeting the needs of the population.)
However, when I produce it myself by sending pigs to hunt, interestingly I have to build more butcher shops.
Long story short, in my experience there is a problem with cheese production.

[Bored Peon]

WaapS の投稿を引用：

I don't think production is working properly. I think this is valid not only for cheese but also for other products. I wish there was a page where I could see the supply/demand chart like anno.

Another example, when I buy 200 pigs from outside, 1 butcher shop is enough. (287 population and as some say, it is not used for any other production like taverns. I only mentioned and am talking about meeting the needs of the population.)
However, when I produce it myself by sending pigs to hunt, interestingly I have to build more butcher shops.
Long story short, in my experience there is a problem with cheese production.

That would be because your hunter huts produce more boar than you bought.

My suggestion is use both because boar have a huge spike when you first paint an area to hunt, then once all the boar have been hunted the respawn is low. Boar cost like 4g each, then you can sell the 5 meats at 3g each for 15g per boar. If you put splendor on your bailiff office with the discount that gap gets bigger, like by boar at 3f each and sell meat at 4g making 17g per boar.

[Madredor]

Bored Peon の投稿を引用：

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My suggestion is use both because boar have a huge spike when you first paint an area to hunt, then once all the boar have been hunted the respawn is low. Boar cost like 4g each, then you can sell the 5 meats at 3g each for 15g per boar. If you put splendor on your bailiff office with the discount that gap gets bigger, like by boar at 3f each and sell meat at 4g making 17g per boar.

Doesnt that make you a boared peon?

I will let myself out.

[Wuik]

Hi,
The answear to this question about the low production was given to me by Minotorious :
The level of the workers (1 to 6) don't give anymore the bonus for the production's chains..
Now this is only to influence the result of somes quests....
Very stupid when you see than the Baillif loose his level experence , you are sure than the quest with the Baillif must obligatory fail......

[Grimtorn]

Doc_Hotpants の投稿を引用：

Maehlice の投稿を引用：

Cheese consumption does always feel rather high to me, but it's not unmanageable.

Villagers only need any 2 of the 3 refined foods, so you don't even have to offer cheese -- or even always consistently offer it. Season to taste and all that.

Consider this though: cow pasture can be painted anywhere there isn't another bulding-specific zone painted. So, the actual land usage of Milk & Cheese production is only whatever land the buildings and a House sit upon. Acres and acres not necessary.

I think it's more well-balanced than you think.

Also, if you have the tavern cook, they use a lot of cheese in their tavern meal production.

Citizens need all three refined food types, btw. Greedy bunch :-)

The reason why cheese consumption is allways high is something rather different from my experience, but i think its actullay true.

cheese is, at least usually, allways the last refined food you add to your mix.

Your villagers will buy at the nearest stall.
since you allready have your meat and bread in place, you will usually just place down cheese as addition where you seem fit.
this might bit right in the way of those villagers coming to shop, so they start buying cheese first, as it is the first shop the run by.

i tried that for bread, meat, berries and fish.
so i am quite certain this is the problem with cheese asswell.

it is not cheese production, it is market placement for all these goods causing that problem.

[Doc_Hotpants]

Grimtorn の投稿を引用：

Doc_Hotpants の投稿を引用：

Also, if you have the tavern cook, they use a lot of cheese in their tavern meal production.

Citizens need all three refined food types, btw. Greedy bunch :-)

The reason why cheese consumption is allways high is something rather different from my experience, but i think its actullay true.

cheese is, at least usually, allways the last refined food you add to your mix.

Your villagers will buy at the nearest stall.
since you allready have your meat and bread in place, you will usually just place down cheese as addition where you seem fit.
this might bit right in the way of those villagers coming to shop, so they start buying cheese first, as it is the first shop the run by.

i tried that for bread, meat, berries and fish.
so i am quite certain this is the problem with cheese asswell.

it is not cheese production, it is market placement for all these goods causing that problem.

The sequence of resources in the markets definitely matters, I agree. I'm not sure why, but in my current playthrough, I somehow manage to produce so much cheese, I can't get rid of it fast enough. 1100 milk, 1100 cheese, not enough people eating cheese!

Weird game. I love it! lol

[Bored Peon]

Doc_Hotpants の投稿を引用：

The sequence of resources in the markets definitely matters, I agree.

Yes it does.

On my monastery run I only had to serve meat and rustic to the serfs. Well I put down a cheese stall just for inn visitors. Well the serfs kept eating all the cheese. Turned out the cheese stall was the closest stall with refined food to village center. When I swapped it with the meat one (which was only being used when cheese ran out) they stopped eating cheese and ate meat.

So now when it comes to my breads and cheeses I place them on the "backside" of the city market.

You could apply the same concept to rustic food, making them eat the fish or vegetable so you have berries to make brew.

[日本著名中锋赤木刚宪]

YOU just need to produce honey and exchange it for meat&cheese&breed, it's the most efficient and valuable product.

[Maehlice]

日本著名中锋赤木刚宪 の投稿を引用：

YOU just need to produce honey and exchange it for meat&cheese&breed, it's the most efficient and valuable product.

There are two aspirations which can't do that.

[Supposer]

You should define what you mean by "not enough."