DiRT Rally 2.0

DiRT Rally 2.0

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rob_every05 Apr 18, 2020 @ 2:13pm
Servers garbage.
How in GODS effing name is this ♥♥♥♥ still going on?

Servers monumentally slow, constantly getting kicked from uploads from events, this is effing weeks now and you STILL have these issues?

It has been OK all week, it's 10 o clock in the evening and it takes 2 minutes to load up the times from each session, 2 minutes to load the stage, then it cant load back to main menu so it gives an error code, and an option to return to menu.

"COMMUNICATING WITH ********* SERVER"

For goodness sake sort it out you useless ****tards. It's not hard, it is called looking after your damn customers
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No Signal Apr 18, 2020 @ 3:12pm 
I can't believe it's this bad *this* long after release. If I play at midnight it's fine, but any time during a normal waking day and I'm being thrown game-halting errors roughly 80% of the time. I just sat hitting retry for about 30 minutes to post my time on a 6 minute race, the alternative is being tossed back to the main menu and losing all of that progress. This amounted to a total time investment of about ~30-40 minutes (accounting for additional hiccups and connectivity wait screens), only about ~8 minutes of which were spent on shakedown/race (actual playtime).

Yikes...

It's not my net, that's pretty much indisputable given I have zero issues with any other game in my library of hundreds of online or multiplayer titles, so it's definitely a server-side issue. The original DiRT Rally threw me the occasional hiccup or update issue, but it was seldom presented and not something that ever caused me much trouble.

The game itself is lovely so far, but man - the experience is severely hampered by the constant server issues. I feel really bad for the people who have very limited time in-between work and/or family life to play and end up losing their progress or simply not being able to play online events (or even post times) at all due to these issues.

That being said, even with ample time, there comes a point where you have to stare the sunk cost fallacy in the face and just go do something else with your time and hope it's fixed next time you give it a chance. Server connectivity is just absolutely brutal. Let's just say I'm very relieved that I chose to pick this up on a discount.

My assumption is that following the recent sale the servers are being choked up, but if that's the case I would expect their server load capacity to support an excess of whatever they were expecting to see during sale times and high traffic periods. I'd very much like to see this fixed, as I'm loving everything apart from the server issues, but I've seen complaints and posts about it since launch day and it's been quite a while since then.

God forbid I start working the graveyard shift again... lol
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Axe Apr 18, 2020 @ 3:43pm 
No problems here. Been great lately :-)

I have run the Club events and the dailies etc perfectly for the past week (or so) since the last large outage issue. I feel so blessed... and lucky I don't have these constant problems...

As for why these threads by OP are never replicated in the official forums as it's famously known that the community managers never reply in the steam forums is beyond me... :steamfacepalm:

I am sure of two things firstly the community managers are not listening or reading and secondly being sworn at by the dumb kid mentality who purport to be adults will absolutely not entice them into discussion. Perhaps the OP should stop this silly behaviour right now as it certainly helps no one on these forums by swearing like a child and throwing constant tantrums like some petulant entitled teen.

You want answers - ask on the cm official forums.
You wan't catharsis, get a therapist and real quick.

Pretending I don't exist by adding me to you ignore list is BS and you know it. Grow up. But it does save you having to answer, in your mind. Nice work...
Last edited by Axe; Apr 18, 2020 @ 4:22pm
rob_every05 Apr 18, 2020 @ 4:21pm 
This is the first of your messages I have read.

And it is about as constructive, insulting, baiting as were the last few before I blocked you. So This will be the last one i read. Please try and live your life eh?

The servers are a problem since the PS4 freebie, not always but a air amount, why would I bother registering at Codemasters forum, last time I looked it was unavailable. They do not give a flying, all they care about is console users which is why they paid SONY a bunch to be the free game this month I imagine. Have you seen the issues some of the pro drivers have had in official F1 races, does not show Codies in a good light at times.

They are a shower with all this at the moment. I have no issue with waiting a little, but to be endlessly told the server is unable to reply is simply poor and clearly their PC servers are often not fit for purpose.

If you think that is fine, you are very easy to please. And at least part of the reason why these companies treat their customers like this, I have complained officially, and obviously got no reply as I am sure the hundreds who no doubt also did have not.

That says it all really.
Kuba_Q Apr 18, 2020 @ 4:32pm 
Originally posted by rob_every05:
The servers are a problem since the PS4 freebie,

This makes sense. I haven't thought of that. But still is not like there is some insane number of players that could justify this.

I also have constant server issues. Today it works (most of the time) but I have to wait reallt long for connection. This is really a shame.


Axe Apr 18, 2020 @ 5:06pm 
Originally posted by Jascha:
Originally posted by rob_every05:
The servers are a problem since the PS4 freebie,

This makes sense. I haven't thought of that. But still is not like there is some insane number of players that could justify this.

I also have constant server issues. Today it works (most of the time) but I have to wait reallt long for connection. This is really a shame.

It is well known that opening the game up to free players via PS4 was the reason for the negative server spike. This is old news . It was mentioned a thousand times and was common news a week ago if anyone cared to look.

Also the servers are never working at their best and haven't been ever since game release a year + ago. Deal with that fact.

So what is new? Bugger all, that is what.

I just thought I would add as I have just remembered that last week I did about 2 weekly events and all the dailies and upon reckoning I had earned 800,000 credits. There was NO massive outage after the known easter one and minor ones is the norm around here and always has been.

Bringing up old news does no one any good as it looks like it's a new problem and 'round and 'round we go. Some just love to hate as we can see is the norm with OP.
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Gregathol Apr 18, 2020 @ 7:52pm 
Mine immediately throws an error and I cant get in. Makes me really sad tbh, because I havent had a single server issue even back when the start was a little rough for Codies. What can i even do
Axe Apr 18, 2020 @ 8:20pm 
Originally posted by rob_every05:
This is the first of your messages I have read.

And it is about as constructive, insulting, baiting as were the last few before I blocked you. So This will be the last one i read. Please try and live your life eh?

The servers are a problem since the PS4 freebie, not always but a air amount, why would I bother registering at Codemasters forum, last time I looked it was unavailable. They do not give a flying, all they care about is console users which is why they paid SONY a bunch to be the free game this month I imagine. Have you seen the issues some of the pro drivers have had in official F1 races, does not show Codies in a good light at times.

They are a shower with all this at the moment. I have no issue with waiting a little, but to be endlessly told the server is unable to reply is simply poor and clearly their PC servers are often not fit for purpose.

If you think that is fine, you are very easy to please. And at least part of the reason why these companies treat their customers like this, I have complained officially, and obviously got no reply as I am sure the hundreds who no doubt also did have not.

That says it all really.

Grow up. Constructive insulting and baiting? What are you doing to be constructive? Moaning and jacking off on being a nasty piece of work is fulfilling those requirements in this forum? Of course you have "complained officially, and obviously got no reply" So with that in mind who are you speaking to in these forums? please don't talk to me like I'm a fool, sigh.

Baiting? You mean asking you questions? That isn't baiting pal, that's called being in a forum. Don't like it. Tough.

Insulting? I suppose you think being challenged by being questioned is insulting eh? Sorry you feel challenged. Do you know what insulting means? It's being ignored by someone who doesn't have the balls to reply to a fellow member because you are scared of his questions. That is insulting.

Whatever you do, do not tell me I am part of any reason for these companies behaving like they do and stop with the crap suggesting I in anyway agree with the shiete cm put us through as customers and that I am unaware of their inadequacies - as that is just utter rubbish as you would know if you had ever read a word I had ever said about this game.
That's quite insulting too, no? I've read every word, paragraph and thread pertaining this game for well over a year so stop suggesting I'm uninformed

I haven't read anyone recently suggesting cm are angels, perhaps you could point me in that direction? You seem to think you are special. Nah the rest of us are just dealing with it and for some reason you aren't and yet stupidly believe swearing and using vulgar language toward the devs/managers is going to make a difference and somehow win you favour.
No it isn't and it won't so if you don't mind I'll carry on being positive about the great things about the game and you carry on telling us what we all already know are the failings. Nice work.

I for one can't wait until you start crapping on about the guy at the end of the rally because he isn't wearing the right shirt for your taste... :steamfacepalm:

Oh you remember that constructive part? You may have read my constructive actions on these forums like answering members posts when I can and the other thing... can you now show me yours constructive existence here please? Pfft...please don't dare call me out again.

But of course you won't because you say this is the last one you'll read... ;-)

Don't worry I won't ask you to explain yourself again (usually called asking you a question on the forums) as clearly you feel you are just too precious to be subjected to an ordeal of this magnitude.
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Axe Apr 18, 2020 @ 8:23pm 
Originally posted by Gregathol:
Mine immediately throws an error and I cant get in. Makes me really sad tbh, because I havent had a single server issue even back when the start was a little rough for Codies. What can i even do

Ask for help on the official DR2.0 forums?
rob_every05 Apr 19, 2020 @ 3:24am 
I think really there is obviously an issue with usage, I don't know how their server system works, but obviously you initially go through the Sony system and from there on to Codies servers, and there we seem to be all in this together, or maybe the PS4 guys are prioritised as a result of there being far more of them right now?

Eitehr way it is pretty poor, OK initially I can understand it, but weeks later to be suffering the same issues is pretty poor. Annoyingly it has been OK all week!
Osigurach Apr 19, 2020 @ 4:05am 
And yet I barely, almost never, had an issue with RaceNet.

And no, this isn't me shilling Codemasters but mine is functioning perfectly.
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rob_every05 Apr 19, 2020 @ 4:12am 
I found DR1 to be fairly poor aswell, I noticed some people were fine, and there were fixes, but endlessly complicated sadly.

I usually have no problems with DR2, but since the PS4 freebie I can never really tell what service I am going to get from Racenet. it is either fine, or completely unusable.

I think we all agree it is a poor and problematic service, yet it is here to stay, they are not going to stop using it, so I will just try and not purchase Codeis games in future as that service is the worst I have ever experienced with any company sadly.
ialyrn Apr 19, 2020 @ 6:24am 
Originally posted by rob_every05:
I think really there is obviously an issue with usage, I don't know how their server system works, but obviously you initially go through the Sony system and from there on to Codies servers, and there we seem to be all in this together, or maybe the PS4 guys are prioritised as a result of there being far more of them right now?

Eitehr way it is pretty poor, OK initially I can understand it, but weeks later to be suffering the same issues is pretty poor. Annoyingly it has been OK all week!

I highly doubt Codemasters go through Sony servers in regards to the steam version of the game, in order to pass through to racenet. I would also have the same doubt about it if you had of mentioned xbox servers instead.

Codemasters develop and self publish their games, and have enough financial clout to buyout other game devs like Slightly Mad Studios, and a few years back, even managed to take on the entire studio that created Driveclub after Sony axed them.

I also highly doubt one device's players are prioritised over another devices players. Again, it just makes no sense. And if they did do that, and it was proven to be true, they would get ripped to shreds by the gaming media. That, right there, would be the slice of pie Kotaku, IGN, and the like; would jump on. Not to mention the countless youtuber news channels for gaming. It would be commercial suicide. Dont believe that would happen, just have to take note of what happened to Bethesda with regards to Fallout 76. I cant imagine the next Skyrim or Fallout game selling as well as it once would have done. Dont get me wrong, people will buy it. But many more will be cautious now.

Codemasters will either own their own server hardware, or rent server space from someone. They have the capital to do both. But given how long racenet has been around, I would suspect they own their own servers. They have offices in 5 locations around the world (3 of which are in the UK).

Originally posted by rob_every05:
I found DR1 to be fairly poor aswell, I noticed some people were fine, and there were fixes, but endlessly complicated sadly.

I usually have no problems with DR2, but since the PS4 freebie I can never really tell what service I am going to get from Racenet. it is either fine, or completely unusable.

I think we all agree it is a poor and problematic service, yet it is here to stay, they are not going to stop using it, so I will just try and not purchase Codeis games in future as that service is the worst I have ever experienced with any company sadly.

Ive seen very few issues with Dirt Rally 1 in regards to racenet. But admitidally, I have only put a little over 100 hours into that game. But even with that in mind, I have never seen the amount of complaint threads on forums about it, as I have for Dirt Rally 2. That leads me to believe, from the available evidence, that this is mainly an issue with Dirt Rally 2. Not something carried over from Dirt Rally 1.

The F1 and Grid games should also be using Racenet (going back as far as F1 2013 I believe), and agian, I barely ever see people complain about connection issues with it. So whatever is going on, is more specific to just Dirt Rally 2.

As for it being "complicated", its really not. All it requires is starting up the game, everything else is handled automatically. The only thing that isnt, is clubs. You have to join those manually, or create them, via the Dirt Rally 2 website.

This isnt a case of "codemasters as usual" with regards to Racenet. This is a case of "the dirt team has done something wrong with the server connections and setup". Otherwise every Codemasters title from the past 8 or so years, would be suffering these outages at the same time as Dirt Rally 2 does.

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Warning, this next part is speculation from me based upon available evidence and what public information is available in regards to how Codemasters functions. It may or may not be accurate, hence the warning!

Codemasters have seperate teams for F1, Grid, and Dirt. Each game is handled by a seperate in house development team (not speculation, what comes after is this part here is though). As far as I am aware, each team has their own premises to work from. Hence why they have 5 locations, 3 in the UK, 1 in India, 1 In kuala Lumpur. As far as I know, from the outside, there isnt very much crossing over by the development teams. Which is one of the reasons F1 and Grid dont have VR functionality, but Dirt Rally 1 and 2 do. They essentially get given the base EGO game engine to work from, and each team pretty much does their own thing with it. Based upon what information I can find out, judging by various interviews Codemasters have made over the years.

Either way, recent Dirt Rally 2 Racenet connections do suck. The best place to inform Codemasters when there is an issue, is their own forums, not the steam forums. They are less likely to see the complaints here, within a decent timescale.
rob_every05 Apr 19, 2020 @ 6:55am 
I had plenty of issues with DR1 aswell, long loading times, very long upload times, timeouts etc. It was not regular but also not s surprise,
gpk99 Apr 19, 2020 @ 8:18am 
Rob...just wondering what you are using for an Internet provider?....it almost sounds like your living in the boonies and on satellite internet.
ialyrn Apr 19, 2020 @ 8:31am 
Originally posted by gpk99:
Rob...just wondering what you are using for an Internet provider?....it almost sounds like your living in the boonies and on satellite internet.

My guess is that they are in the UK, judging by how long the first post has been up for (18 hours). They specifically mention 10PM at the time of the first post. So they are either on BT or Virgin Media (the two main telecoms companies in the UK). I am on BT infinty here in the UK, and my network speed is supposed to be 80mb download and 20 up (which I get 98% of the time without fail). Ive been going down as low as 0.5mb download since the UK lockdown started. Virgin Media can have much faster download speeds, but they are known to throttle at peak times to spread that speed out better. So I imagine they are having speed drops by this point. Most 3rd party ISP's in the UK "rent" lines from either BT or Virgin Media (depending on area and services offered), which usually incurs the addition of download caps and even more throttleing. So currently, if Rob is in the UK, the internet infrastructure is currently up a creek without a paddle; with how in use it is curruently.

So that is probably only adding to the current racenet issues.
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