On Elite career rally. How do i win?

[DmAnd]

I first started playing this when it came out and finished the easy dfificulty career championship.

Now on Elite, i am at the back of the pack.
I know i'm not the best at this but dang.

In the group A Mitsubishi

[Jbark51]

Same here. It's humbling.

[DmAnd]

Originally posted by Jbark51:

Same here. It's humbling.

Indeed. I finished the snowy event the other day at 17th

[karik_FIN_134]

In any class u need best car in class to make it maybe bit easier so in Gr A Lancia is quickest all thought quite understeering it's still fastest with enough practice and setup changes (check TT leaderboards if u don't believe me). Also u need to memorize stages and practice location a lot before actual event as going in cold u are not going to do fastest times (or get close to those) what is needed for two last levels.

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Upgrade car (Citroen C4) first by running season through and buy engine mappings if it's not already done.

Citroen C4 is also understeering in the base and u can't get fully rid of it with setup changes without going to extremes on reducing rear grip which can in the end become critically too low so it will cause more crazy snap oversteer moments which can cost timewise. Try to adapt to the car and understeer, u need to bit slower into conrers to make sure car makes the corner and then on exit u go more on throttle.

Avoid getting Argentina, Scotland, Monaco in the season as in those AI times can be more broken but test. Some of my setups below will need some changes (also untested or not tested properly). If u get bad countries to season then start the season but then exit it and abandon it so u get another 6 random locations etc repeat this until u have good locations u want or know u can beat AI (there can be 1 bad locations and it's ok).
On Elite-level to get to Masters u only 3rd place in overall points at the end of season so maybe on average 3-6 places in events is maybe enough. In Masters u need minimum about 140 points overall to have a chance for win which means on average 3rd places (> 6 x 24p = 144points).

To practice events beforehand go to Custom-menu, choose Full degradation mode to get HIGH surface degradation(=deepest ruts) when leading. Run stages all 8 short, all 4 longs, or all 12stages, take 1spare and there u have unlimited amount of restarts and just grinding location into memory. Use my setups and maybe do some changes to them if there's need, go back to my original if certain change doesn't work and try something else instead.

I recommend that u first run multiple stages with my setup and then afterwards think about(maybe also check replay) if car had too many issues.
U want to think if car was
- was it too under/oversteering on steering input?
- was it too under/oversteering on throttle?
- was it too under/oversteering on brakes?
- was it too under/oversteering on throttle lift-offs
- was it bottoming out too much?
- was it going on two wheels or even rolling too easily, too unstable?
Then u do suitable corrections to setup and try if car becomes better/faster etc
U can't get setup perfect always so adapting to small issue is needed, like it understeers and cant' fix it so need to be more cautiuos with corner entry speeds then.

Here are setup for all 13 locations for Citroen C4. SOme are better than others, also more properly tested and some are untested after some changes etc.

FINLAND (light gravel)
Citroen C4 WRC (Finland, Jan 14th 2023) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 36%, brak 36%, 90.00 / Centre: driv 36%, brak 36%, 100.00 / Rear: driv 50%, brak 36%, 96.25
- Gears: 0.334 (70kph) / 0.457 / 0.598 / 0.760 / 0.944 / 1.148 / FD 0.230 (top speed 240km/h or 149.1mph)
- Damping: Front: 4.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 4.00 / Rear: 4.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 4.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 119.56, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 190.70, arb 0.00

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly softer spring rates and softer damping can benefit you)
handling: can bottom out lightly on high degr (maybe not an issue)
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try spring rates front 100 and 76 (+maybe damping 3, 5, 0.96mps, 3 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr try spring rates 110 and 84 (+maybe damping bump zones 1.08mps both)

TEST STAGES:
Järvenkylä/Kotajärvi is slowest short stage by average speed, then Oksala/Iso Oksjärvi is fastest short stage, short stage with highest bottoming out risk on HIGH surface degradation is maybe Jyrkysjärvi/Naarajärvi, but some bottoming out can happen on other stages too.

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SWEDEN (snow+ice)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Sweden, Oct 21st 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.20, camber -0.70 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.70
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 28%, brak 32%, 70.00 / Center: driv 28%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Rear: driv 40%, brak 36%, 78.75
- Gears: 0.358 (75kph) / 0.462 / 0.583 / 0.727 / 0.891 / 1.076 / FD 0.230 (top speed 225km/h or 139.8mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.96mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.96mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 82.20, arb 1.25 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 65.96, arb 3.75

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly softer spring rates and softer damping can benefit you)
handling:
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trials) try spring rates 65 and 52 (+maybe even damping 2, 5, 0.72mps, 1 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr try spring rates 73 and rear (+maybe damping bump zones 0.84mps both)
setup: test with cambers -1.00 and -1.00 if they make car faster

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is Älgsjön Sprint/Skogsrallyt, then Björklangen/Östra Hinnsjön is fastest short stage, bottoming out risk on HIGH surface degradation can be quite equal on all stages.

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WALES (medium gravel)
Citroen C4 WRC (Wales, Feb 15th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -0.70 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.70
- Brakes: 2,830.00 Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 28%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Center: driv 28%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Rear: driv 40%, brak 36%, 70.00
- Gears: 0.324 (68kph) / 0.425 / 0.545 / 0.685 / 0.845 / 1.029 / FD 0.230 (top speed 215km/h or 133.6mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 96.21, arb 3 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 74, arb 9, 10, 11 etc

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly softer spring rates and softer damping can benefit you)
handling: can bottom out on medium+high degradation
setup: test damping rebounds at 3 both, test cambers -1.00 and -1.00 if makes car faster
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try spring rates 77 and 59 (+maybe damping 2, 5, 0.96mps, 1[or 2] both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 86 and 66 (+maybe damping bump zones 1.08mps both)

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is Bidno Moorland/Bidno Moorland Reverse, then fastest short stage is Fferm Wynt/Fferm Wynt Reverse. Worst short stage for bottoming out on HIGH surface degradation is Fferm Wynt both ways, but also on Dyffryn Afon it happens both ways, on other short stages it can happen in few spots if at all with same setup.

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GERMANY (mainly asphalt which can be bumpy in places with lot of times less grippy concrete+cobblestone surface in corners+junctions)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Germany, Oct 6th 2022)
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -2.25 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -2.25
- Brakes: 2,950.00Nm, bias 67%
- Differential: Front: driv 24%, brak 28%, 40.00 / Centre: driv 24%, brak 24%, 50.00(test 40.00) / Rear: driv 35%, brak 24%, 43.75
- Gears: 0.324 (68kph) / 0.433 / 0.564 / 0.713 / 0.881 / 1.076 / FD 0.230 (top speed 225km/h or 139.8mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh -50.00mm, spr 171.82, arb 14.58 / Rear: rh -50.00mm, spr 133.79, arb 22.92 (test 24, 25 etc)

notes:
handling:
setup: if too understeering test diff center preload 40.00, test rear camber -2.13 or even -2.00 (reduces understeer)
setup: test rear arb 24 or more (reduces understeer)

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is either Verbundsring/Verbundsring Reverse or Innerere Feld Sprint/ Innerer Feld-Sprint Reverse, then fastest short stage is Kreuzungsring/Kreuzungsring Reverse. On asphalt there shouldn't be bottoming out issues as there's no ruts, higher degradation maybe increases amount of gravel on road = more slippery.

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SPAIN (smooth asphalt)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Spain, Oct 6th 2022)
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -2.25 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -2.25
- Brakes: 2,950.00Nm, bias 67%
- Differential: Front: driv 24%, brak 32%, 40.00 / Centre: driv 24%, brak 28%, 50.00 / Rear: driv 35%, brak 28%, 43.75
- Gears: 0.324 (68kph) / 0.433 / 0.564 / 0.713 / 0.881 / 1.076 / FD 0.230 (top speed 225km/h or 139.8mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh -50.00mm, spr 171.82, arb 16.67 / Rear: rh -50.00mm, spr 133.79, arb 22.92

notes:
handling: quite ok

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is Ascenso por valle el Gualet/Salida desde Montverd, then fastest short stage is Vinedos Dardenya/Vinedos Dardenya inversa. On asphalt there shouldn't be bottoming out issues as there's no ruts, higher degradation maybe increases amount of gravel on road = more slippery.

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Then maybe some harder locations

POLAND (mainly dirt, but also some asphalt parts through villages)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Poland, Sept 14th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 32%, brak 36%, 80.00 / Centre: driv 32%, brak 36%, 80.00 / Rear: driv 45%, brak 40%, 90.00
- Gears: 0.334 / 0.445 / 0.575 / 0.730 / 0.900 / 1.097 / FD 0.230 (top speed 230km/h or 142.9mph)
- Damping: Front: 4.00, 5.00, 1.08mps, 3.00 / Rear: 4.00, 5.00, 1.08mps, 3.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 110, arb 1.25 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 83, arb 1, 2, 3 etc

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: unknown!
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 88 and 67 (+maybe damping 3, 5, 0.84mps, 2 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 100 and 76 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.96mps both)

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed unknown, then fastest short stage is unknown. Worst short stage for bottoming out unknown, it happens in places(dips, bumps) on medium+high surface degradation if setup is too soft.

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USA (medium gravel, but maybe also heavy gravel in places)
Citroen C4 WRC (USA; April 28th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 32%, brak 36%, 80.00 / Center: driv 36%, brak 36%, 80.00 / Rear: driv 45%, brak 40%, 90.00
- Gears: 0.324 (68kph) / 0.445 / 0.590 / 0.755 / 0.940 / 1.148 / FD 0.230 (top speed 240km/h or 149.1mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.84mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.84mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 100, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 76, arb 0.00 (test 1, 2, 3 etc)

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: unknown (untested setup)
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 80 and 61 (+maybe damping 2, 5, 0.48mps, 1 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 90 and 68 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.60mps both)
setup: if too understeering test rear arb stronger 1, 2, 3, etc

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is Fury Lake Depart/Hancock Creek Burst, then fastest short stage is Fuller Mountain Descent/Fuller Mountain Ascent. Worst bottoming out stage is unknown, but USA is quite smooth location overall even on high surface degradation.

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NEW ZEALAND (gravel)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (New Zealand, Sept 26th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.20, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.80
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 20%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Center: driv 20%, brak 32%, 50.00 / Rear: driv 35%, brak 36%, 70.00
- Gears: 0.334 (70kph) / 0.433 / 0.555 / 0.698 / 0.862 / 1.052 / FD 0.230 (top speed 220km/h or 136.7mph)
- Damping: Front: 2.00, 5.00, 0.48mps, 1.00 / Rear: 2.00, 5.00, 0.48mps, 1.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 91.54, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 70, arb 7.50

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: can suffer from slight understeer (on throttle mainly in tighter corners)
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 73 and 55 (+maybe damping 1, 5, 0.12mps, 0 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 82 and 62 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.24mps both)

TEST STAGES
Slowest short stage by average speed is Te Awanga Sprint Forward/Te Awanga Sprint Reverse, then fastest short stage is Elsthorpe Sprint Forward/Elsthorpe Sprint Reverse. Worst bottoming out stage is unknown but NZ is quite smooth overall even on high degradation all though it can happen in places specially if cutting(stay on road).

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AUSTRALIA (gravel with some longer asphalt parts)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Australia, Sept 26th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -0.90 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00 Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 20%, brak 36%, 70.00 / Center: driv 20%, brak 36%, 60.00 / Rear: driv 35%, brak 36%, 70.00
- Gears: 0.319 (67kph) / 0.423 / 0.550 / 0.694 / 0.862 / 1.052 / FD 0.230 (top speed 220km/h or 136.7mph)
- Damping: Front: 2.00, 5.00, 0.96mps, 1.00 / Rear: 2.00, 5.00, 0.96mps, 1.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 100, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 76, arb 3.75

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: should be quite ok
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 80 and 61 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.60 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 90 and 68 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.72mps both)

TEST STAGES
Slowest short by average speed is Yambulla Mountain Ascent/Yambulla Mountain Descent, then fastest short stage is maybe Rockton Plains/Rockton Planis Reverse. Worst bottoming out stage maybe on Taylor Farm Sprint/Bondi Forest on high surface degradation if setup is too soft, can happen elsewhere too in places.

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GREECE (heavy gravel)
Citroen C4 WRC (Greece, Oct 30th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.70
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 20%, brak 28%, 60.00 / Center: driv 20%, brak 28%, 20.00 / Rear: driv 35%, brak 28%, 61.25
- Gears: 0.315 (66kph) / 0.400 / 0.507 / 0.632 / 0.781 / 0.952 / FD 0.230 (top speed 200km/h or 124.3mph)
- Damping: Front: 2.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 1.00 / Rear: 2.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 1.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 80, arb 3.75 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 61, arb 11.25

- notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
- handling: can roll when cutting and more easily with higher degradation(avoid cuts?), can bottom out on medium+high degr but maybe not so bad it causes issues
- setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 64 and 48 (+maybe damping 1, 5, 0.84mps, 0 both)
- setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 72 and 54 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.96mps both)

TEST STAGES
Slowest short by average speed is Koryfi Dafni/Fourketa Kourva, then fastest short stage is maybe Pedines Epidaxi/Abies Koilada. Worst bottoming out stage unknown, it can happen in multiple places on higher surface degradation if setup is too soft.

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ARGENTINA (heavy gravel)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Argentina, Jan 25th 2023) for HIGH degradation [UNTESTED after some changes]
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.70
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 16%, brak 24%, 40.00 / Center: driv 16%, brak 24%, 10.00 / Rear: driv 30%, brak 28%, 50.00
- Gears: 0.310 (65kph) / 0.395 / 0.502 / 0.632 / 0.781 / 0.952 / FD 0.230 (top speed 200km/h or 124.3mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 65 arb 1.25 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 50, arb 11.25

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: can bottom out on high degr (medium degr?)

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SCOTLAND (medium gravel)
Citroen C4 WRC (Scotland, Jan 25th 2023) for HIGH degradation [UNTESTED after some changes]
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 28%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Centre: driv 28%, brak 32%, 40.00 / Rear: driv 40%, brak 28%, 70.00
- Gears: 0.329 (69kph) / 0.438 / 0.569 / 0.718 / 0.886 / 1.076 / FD 0.230 (top speed 225km/h or 139mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.60mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.60mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 92, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 70 arb 1.59(or stronger?)

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: unknown

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MONACO (asphalt, ice, snow) NOTE!: AI is cheating with tires here
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Monaco, Jan 25th 2023) untested setup
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -1.75 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.75(test -1.60, or even -1.50)
- Brakes: 2,890.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 16%, brak 24%, 30.00 / Center: driv 16%, brak 24%, 10.00 / Rear: driv 25%, brak 24%, 35.00
- Gears: 0.310 (65kph) / 0.385 / 0.485 / 0.605 / 0.745 / 0.909 / FD 0.230 (top speed 190km/h or 118.0mph)
- Damping: Front: 2.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 1.00 / Rear: 2.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 1.00
- Springs: Front: rh -31.00mm, spr 120, arb 12 / Rear: rh -31.00mm, spr 92, arb 25

notes:
handling: unknown?
setup: if too understeering test rear camber -1.60 or even -1.50 (reduces understeer)
setup: if still too understeering test rear arb stronger (1click at a time)

[DmAnd]

Originally posted by karik_FIN_134:

In any class u need best car in class to make it maybe bit easier so in Gr A Lancia is quickest all thought quite understeering it's still fastest with enough practice and setup changes (check TT leaderboards if u don't believe me). Also u need to memorize stages and practice location a lot before actual event as going in cold u are not going to do fastest times (or get close to those) what is needed for two last levels.

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Here's an another option (and sorry for the long text that I copied form my another answer related to beating Masters AI in career).

Upgrade car (Citroen C4) first by running season through and buy engine mappings if it's not already done.

Up to 2000cc: Citroen C4 [all 13 setups: for Finland, Sweden, Wales, Germany, Spain, Poland, USA, New Zealand, Australia, Greece, Argentina, Scotland, Monaco]

Avoid getting Argentina, Scotland, Monaco as in those AI times can be more broken but test. Some of my setups below will need some changes (also untested or not tested properly).

FINLAND (light gravel)
Citroen C4 WRC (Finland, Jan 14th 2023) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 36%, brak 36%, 90.00 / Centre: driv 36%, brak 36%, 100.00 / Rear: driv 50%, brak 36%, 96.25
- Gears: 0.334 (70kph) / 0.457 / 0.598 / 0.760 / 0.944 / 1.148 / FD 0.230 (top speed 240km/h or 149.1mph)
- Damping: Front: 4.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 4.00 / Rear: 4.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 4.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 119.56, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 190.70, arb 0.00

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly softer spring rates and softer damping can benefit you)
handling: can bottom out lightly on high degr (maybe not an issue)
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try spring rates front 100 and 76 (+maybe damping 3, 5, 0.96mps, 3 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr try spring rates 110 and 84 (+maybe damping bump zones 1.08mps both)

TEST STAGES:
Järvenkylä/Kotajärvi is slowest short stage by average speed, then Oksala/Iso Oksjärvi is fastest short stage, short stage with highest bottoming out risk on HIGH surface degradation is maybe Jyrkysjärvi/Naarajärvi, but some bottoming out can happen on other stages too.

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SWEDEN (snow+ice)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Sweden, Oct 21st 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.20, camber -0.70 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.70
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 28%, brak 32%, 70.00 / Center: driv 28%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Rear: driv 40%, brak 36%, 78.75
- Gears: 0.358 (75kph) / 0.462 / 0.583 / 0.727 / 0.891 / 1.076 / FD 0.230 (top speed 225km/h or 139.8mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.96mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.96mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 82.20, arb 1.25 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 65.96, arb 3.75

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly softer spring rates and softer damping can benefit you)
handling:
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trials) try spring rates 65 and 52 (+maybe even damping 2, 5, 0.72mps, 1 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr try spring rates 73 and rear (+maybe damping bump zones 0.84mps both)
setup: test with cambers -1.00 and -1.00 if they make car faster

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is Älgsjön Sprint/Skogsrallyt, then Björklangen/Östra Hinnsjön is fastest short stage, bottoming out risk on HIGH surface degradation can be quite equal on all stages.

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WALES (medium gravel)
Citroen C4 WRC (Wales, Feb 15th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -0.70 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.70
- Brakes: 2,830.00 Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 28%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Center: driv 28%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Rear: driv 40%, brak 36%, 70.00
- Gears: 0.324 (68kph) / 0.425 / 0.545 / 0.685 / 0.845 / 1.029 / FD 0.230 (top speed 215km/h or 133.6mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 96.21, arb 3 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 74, arb 9, 10, 11 etc

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly softer spring rates and softer damping can benefit you)
handling: can bottom out on medium+high degradation
setup: test damping rebounds at 3 both, test cambers -1.00 and -1.00 if makes car faster
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try spring rates 77 and 59 (+maybe damping 2, 5, 0.96mps, 1[or 2] both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 86 and 66 (+maybe damping bump zones 1.08mps both)

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is Bidno Moorland/Bidno Moorland Reverse, then fastest short stage is Fferm Wynt/Fferm Wynt Reverse. Worst short stage for bottoming out on HIGH surface degradation is Fferm Wynt both ways, but also on Dyffryn Afon it happens both ways, on other short stages it can happen in few spots if at all with same setup.

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GERMANY (mainly asphalt which can be bumpy in places with lot of times less grippy concrete+cobblestone surface in corners+junctions)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Germany, Oct 6th 2022)
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -2.25 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -2.25
- Brakes: 2,950.00Nm, bias 67%
- Differential: Front: driv 24%, brak 28%, 40.00 / Centre: driv 24%, brak 24%, 50.00(test 40.00) / Rear: driv 35%, brak 24%, 43.75
- Gears: 0.324 (68kph) / 0.433 / 0.564 / 0.713 / 0.881 / 1.076 / FD 0.230 (top speed 225km/h or 139.8mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh -50.00mm, spr 171.82, arb 14.58 / Rear: rh -50.00mm, spr 133.79, arb 22.92 (test 24, 25 etc)

notes:
handling:
setup: if too understeering test diff center preload 40.00, test rear camber -2.13 or even -2.00 (reduces understeer)
setup: test rear arb 24 or more (reduces understeer)

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is either Verbundsring/Verbundsring Reverse or Innerere Feld Sprint/ Innerer Feld-Sprint Reverse, then fastest short stage is Kreuzungsring/Kreuzungsring Reverse. On asphalt there shouldn't be bottoming out issues as there's no ruts, higher degradation maybe increases amount of gravel on road = more slippery.

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SPAIN (smooth asphalt)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Spain, Oct 6th 2022)
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -2.25 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -2.25
- Brakes: 2,950.00Nm, bias 67%
- Differential: Front: driv 24%, brak 32%, 40.00 / Centre: driv 24%, brak 28%, 50.00 / Rear: driv 35%, brak 28%, 43.75
- Gears: 0.324 (68kph) / 0.433 / 0.564 / 0.713 / 0.881 / 1.076 / FD 0.230 (top speed 225km/h or 139.8mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.02mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh -50.00mm, spr 171.82, arb 16.67 / Rear: rh -50.00mm, spr 133.79, arb 22.92

notes:
handling: quite ok

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is Ascenso por valle el Gualet/Salida desde Montverd, then fastest short stage is Vinedos Dardenya/Vinedos Dardenya inversa. On asphalt there shouldn't be bottoming out issues as there's no ruts, higher degradation maybe increases amount of gravel on road = more slippery.

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Then maybe some harder locations

POLAND (mainly dirt, but also some asphalt parts through villages)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Poland, Sept 14th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 32%, brak 36%, 80.00 / Centre: driv 32%, brak 36%, 80.00 / Rear: driv 45%, brak 40%, 90.00
- Gears: 0.334 / 0.445 / 0.575 / 0.730 / 0.900 / 1.097 / FD 0.230 (top speed 230km/h or 142.9mph)
- Damping: Front: 4.00, 5.00, 1.08mps, 3.00 / Rear: 4.00, 5.00, 1.08mps, 3.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 110, arb 1.25 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 83, arb 1, 2, 3 etc

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: unknown!
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 88 and 67 (+maybe damping 3, 5, 0.84mps, 2 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 100 and 76 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.96mps both)

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed unknown, then fastest short stage is unknown. Worst short stage for bottoming out unknown, it happens in places(dips, bumps) on medium+high surface degradation if setup is too soft.

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USA (medium gravel, but maybe also heavy gravel in places)
Citroen C4 WRC (USA; April 28th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 32%, brak 36%, 80.00 / Center: driv 36%, brak 36%, 80.00 / Rear: driv 45%, brak 40%, 90.00
- Gears: 0.324 (68kph) / 0.445 / 0.590 / 0.755 / 0.940 / 1.148 / FD 0.230 (top speed 240km/h or 149.1mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.84mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.84mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 100, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 76, arb 0.00 (test 1, 2, 3 etc)

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: unknown (untested setup)
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 80 and 61 (+maybe damping 2, 5, 0.48mps, 1 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 90 and 68 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.60mps both)
setup: if too understeering test rear arb stronger 1, 2, 3, etc

TEST STAGES:
Slowest short stage by average speed is Fury Lake Depart/Hancock Creek Burst, then fastest short stage is Fuller Mountain Descent/Fuller Mountain Ascent. Worst bottoming out stage is unknown, but USA is quite smooth location overall even on high surface degradation.

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NEW ZEALAND (gravel)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (New Zealand, Sept 26th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.20, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.80
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 20%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Center: driv 20%, brak 32%, 50.00 / Rear: driv 35%, brak 36%, 70.00
- Gears: 0.334 (70kph) / 0.433 / 0.555 / 0.698 / 0.862 / 1.052 / FD 0.230 (top speed 220km/h or 136.7mph)
- Damping: Front: 2.00, 5.00, 0.48mps, 1.00 / Rear: 2.00, 5.00, 0.48mps, 1.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 91.54, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 70, arb 7.50

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: can suffer from slight understeer (on throttle mainly in tighter corners)
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 73 and 55 (+maybe damping 1, 5, 0.12mps, 0 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 82 and 62 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.24mps both)

TEST STAGES
Slowest short stage by average speed is Te Awanga Sprint Forward/Te Awanga Sprint Reverse, then fastest short stage is Elsthorpe Sprint Forward/Elsthorpe Sprint Reverse. Worst bottoming out stage is unknown but NZ is quite smooth overall even on high degradation all though it can happen in places specially if cutting(stay on road).

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AUSTRALIA (gravel with some longer asphalt parts)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Australia, Sept 26th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -0.90 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00 Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 20%, brak 36%, 70.00 / Center: driv 20%, brak 36%, 60.00 / Rear: driv 35%, brak 36%, 70.00
- Gears: 0.319 (67kph) / 0.423 / 0.550 / 0.694 / 0.862 / 1.052 / FD 0.230 (top speed 220km/h or 136.7mph)
- Damping: Front: 2.00, 5.00, 0.96mps, 1.00 / Rear: 2.00, 5.00, 0.96mps, 1.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 100, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 76, arb 3.75

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: should be quite ok
setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 80 and 61 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.60 both)
setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 90 and 68 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.72mps both)

TEST STAGES
Slowest short by average speed is Yambulla Mountain Ascent/Yambulla Mountain Descent, then fastest short stage is maybe Rockton Plains/Rockton Planis Reverse. Worst bottoming out stage maybe on Taylor Farm Sprint/Bondi Forest on high surface degradation if setup is too soft, can happen elsewhere too in places.

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GREECE (heavy gravel)
Citroen C4 WRC (Greece, Oct 30th 2022) for HIGH degradation
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.70
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 20%, brak 28%, 60.00 / Center: driv 20%, brak 28%, 20.00 / Rear: driv 35%, brak 28%, 61.25
- Gears: 0.315 (66kph) / 0.400 / 0.507 / 0.632 / 0.781 / 0.952 / FD 0.230 (top speed 200km/h or 124.3mph)
- Damping: Front: 2.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 1.00 / Rear: 2.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 1.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 80, arb 3.75 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 61, arb 11.25

- notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
- handling: can roll when cutting and more easily with higher degradation(avoid cuts?), can bottom out on medium+high degr but maybe not so bad it causes issues
- setup: for LOW degradation(+Time Trial) try softer spring rates 64 and 48 (+maybe damping 1, 5, 0.84mps, 0 both)
- setup: for MEDIUM degr test spring rates 72 and 54 (+maybe damping bump zones 0.96mps both)

TEST STAGES
Slowest short by average speed is Koryfi Dafni/Fourketa Kourva, then fastest short stage is maybe Pedines Epidaxi/Abies Koilada. Worst bottoming out stage unknown, it can happen in multiple places on higher surface degradation if setup is too soft.

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ARGENTINA (heavy gravel)
Citroen C4 -10 WRC (Argentina, Jan 25th 2023) for HIGH degradation [UNTESTED after some changes]
- Alignment: Front: toe -0.40, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -0.70
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 16%, brak 24%, 40.00 / Center: driv 16%, brak 24%, 10.00 / Rear: driv 30%, brak 28%, 50.00
- Gears: 0.310 (65kph) / 0.395 / 0.502 / 0.632 / 0.781 / 0.952 / FD 0.230 (top speed 200km/h or 124.3mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 1.20mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 65 arb 1.25 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 50, arb 11.25

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: can bottom out on high degr (medium degr?)

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SCOTLAND (medium gravel)
Citroen C4 WRC (Scotland, Jan 25th 2023) for HIGH degradation [UNTESTED after some changes]
- Alignment: Front: toe 0.00, camber -1.00 / Rear: toe 0.00, camber -1.00
- Brakes: 2,830.00Nm, bias 66%
- Differential: Front: driv 28%, brak 32%, 60.00 / Centre: driv 28%, brak 32%, 40.00 / Rear: driv 40%, brak 28%, 70.00
- Gears: 0.329 (69kph) / 0.438 / 0.569 / 0.718 / 0.886 / 1.076 / FD 0.230 (top speed 225km/h or 139mph)
- Damping: Front: 3.00, 5.00, 0.60mps, 2.00 / Rear: 3.00, 5.00, 0.60mps, 2.00
- Springs: Front: rh 20.00mm, spr 92, arb 0.00 / Rear: rh 20.00mm, spr 70 arb 1.59(or stronger?)

notes: TT+low degr+medium degr setups can be softer (mainly spring rates and damping softer will benefit you)
handling: unknown



notes:
handling: unknown?
setup: if too understeering test rear camber -1.60 or even -1.50 (reduces understeer)
setup: if still too understeering test rear arb stronger (1click at a time)

Thank you for taking the time to respond in great detail. I hope you got a award in the first post for this very detailed report.

I have noticed the Lancia is the quickest but that understeer is killing me. I have not done much with that car and being all wheel drive, it should be pretty easy to set it up to get it to do what i want it to. I'll check out some setups for it.

I am also driving in VR, so some of the cars are hard to see out of and get my irl wheel in the correct position to line up. Pretty sure the Citoen was one of those i had problems with. The Lancia was good tho so i may have to mess with that car some more, thanks.

[Iyad]

stop playing single player career and join community clubs! the AI is broken and competing in clubs is a lot more fun!

[DmAnd]

Originally posted by Iyad:

stop playing single player career and join community clubs! the AI is broken and competing in clubs is a lot more fun!

I'm not nearly consistent enough.
@ the moment i am at about 3 out of 10 complete rate lol

Rally cross seems quite simple

[karik_FIN_134]

What gear u use for playing? if it's a sim wheel I can also help ffb settings if u feel that those aren't best.

But I recommend that u test Citroen C4 with my setups in Custom-menu against for example 90% AI-level (it is adjustable) which can be comparable to Elite-level in career and why not even against 100% AI (which is about same as Masters-level AI if u will be trying to beat that too later).
Test different locations and see where u can beat AI most or are closest to the fastest AI and write those locations down and try to get career season with most of those locations in. Then practice properly before actual event so u are doing best possible times. If season goes bad and chnace of placing in top3 then u can abandon the season and try again.

Basic rules for career:
1. always take soft tires (except on asphalt if it's wet take wet tires and in Monaco take winter tires)
2. Maybe carry 1spare so in case u get a puncture very near end of the stage u can just continue and take small time loss and get free repair (or if u are/get very consistent and fast hen maybe even ditch 1spare for small time gain and use a one of restarts when getting a puncture)
3. practice in custom -menu before career event. U can see career location beforehand and can do some/all stages in custom as a proper warm up. With practice u easily gain few seconds even on short stages and it makes whole thing just bit easier.
4. U do not need to win every stage. If u get small lead like 10s then try to hold onto it and u can be bit more cautious in most difficult parts so that u don't have to use restarts(can save those for punctures etc). If u run out of restarts then u can still get new chance by exiting the stage to main menu and then select again continue career.

Here's few examples where I race against 100% AI in Custom-menu with Citroen C4 (+1spare, soft tires).
I'm on 540 degrees in the wheel (soft lock rotation for this car), sequential paddle shifters, handbrake (Fanatec gear DD1 base +330mm rim, V3 pedals)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpmONGyw140

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC8-yQWxUxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8iAWDHJsQY

[Hoksu]

Originally posted by Dmand:

Rally cross seems quite simple

Rallycross AI is broken though.

[DmAnd]

Originally posted by karik_FIN_134:

What gear u use for playing? if it's a sim wheel I can also help ffb settings if u feel that those aren't best.

But I recommend that u test Citroen C4 with my setups in Custom-menu against for example 90% AI-level (it is adjustable) which can be comparable to Elite-level in career and why not even against 100% AI (which is about same as Masters-level AI if u will be trying to beat that too later).
Test different locations and see where u can beat AI most or are closest to the fastest AI and write those locations down and try to get career season with most of those locations in. Then practice properly before actual event so u are doing best possible times. If season goes bad and chnace of placing in top3 then u can abandon the season and try again.

Basic rules for career:
1. always take soft tires (except on asphalt if it's wet take wet tires and in Monaco take winter tires)
2. Maybe carry 1spare so in case u get a puncture very near end of the stage u can just continue and take small time loss and get free repair (or if u are/get very consistent and fast hen maybe even ditch 1spare for small time gain and use a one of restarts when getting a puncture)
3. practice in custom -menu before career event. U can see career location beforehand and can do some/all stages in custom as a proper warm up. With practice u easily gain few seconds even on short stages and it makes whole thing just bit easier.
4. U do not need to win every stage. If u get small lead like 10s then try to hold onto it and u can be bit more cautious in most difficult parts so that u don't have to use restarts(can save those for punctures etc). If u run out of restarts then u can still get new chance by exiting the stage to main menu and then select again continue career.

Here's few examples where I race against 100% AI in Custom-menu with Citroen C4 (+1spare, soft tires).
I'm on 540 degrees in the wheel (soft lock rotation for this car), sequential paddle shifters, handbrake (Fanatec gear DD1 base +330mm rim, V3 pedals)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpmONGyw140

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qC8-yQWxUxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8iAWDHJsQY

Thanks. Very impressive. I think the FFB is the best i can get it for my wheel. I've tried many different settings and am happy enough with that at the moment.

T300 gt edition. Fanatec V3 pedals. Th8a shifter. VR quest 2
I was using manual h shifter with all cars but moved on to the manual sequential and started to just use the paddles to try and make up some time.

I could use your advice on the V3 in game pedal settings. I have the vibration set up in Simhum, that really comes in handy.

I am curious what you have your pedal sensitivity set to, just got them a couple months ago and loving them.

I always go with no spare tires to save weight. I never actually knew if less tire weight would transfer to more speed in this game, but i always assumed. Good to know.

[karik_FIN_134]

I have fanatec V3 brake force set 100%. Can stomp on brakes maximal without huge risk of locking up, I can hit 100% but really have to put body in it (I have firm rig so 100% works for me). I have few percent (2-5%) of deadzone on brake start so when foot is just resting on pedal I'm not applying any brakes accidentally when not needed, brake saturation 100%. Throttle is 0% deadzone, saturation 100%.

1spare adds some weight which slows u you down but with Citroen racing weight with crew etc is close to 1500kg so an extra 20kg on top of that means very minimal time loss, in Finland it's less than 0.10s/km (or 0.16s/mile) so not much even thought all 12stages with total 120km(74.6mi) it's less than 12s extra in +50min of racing.

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These would be wheel setting for that T300 (I have also used t300 in the past for 3years). Maybe worth testing how it feels if u currently use much different settings.

Thrustmaster Control Panel
- overall strength 100%
- periodic 100%
- constant 100%
- dampers 100%
- springs 100%
- auto-center: 0%, OFF
- allow game to do changes: YES
Boost-mode off
Enable the fan to run all times to keep base cool so forces doesn't drop.

In game: (with Citroen C4 maybe no need for changes)
Three different options, from weaker to stronger and strongest

2.72 Nm
self align torque 68
wheel friction < 34 > (max 85)
tyre friction 68
suspension 41-68

3.04Nm
sat 76
wf < 38 > (max 85)
tf 76
susp 46-76

3.40Nm (max value for self align torque+for others, so there's 15% headroom left to prevent overheating and clipping+torque reduction from it)
sat 85
wf < 42 > (max 85)
tf 85
susp 51-85

Collision 0 but user preference (just makes recovering harder when hitting stuff, crashing etc, suspension effect will also give feedback in these situations)

Wheel Friction: adjust this higher if u have too much of oscillation in the wheel (it doesn't settle), and of course lower this value if wheel isn't oscillating too much.
I personally do oscillation test at steady 80km/h (50mph) speed going straight on 3rd gear. then do quick 90degree turn and release the wheel and see it how it moves, how quickly it settles. If it doesn't settle quickly enough or not at all(just continues to wobble back and forth even with increasing amounts) then wheel friction bit stronger can help, even 1-2 values up and re-test and adjust wf again if needed.

Suspension: start with lower value mentioned and go higher, maybe try maximla recommended and soem in between values what is best.

+other settings: (doesn't affect ffb really)
- soft lock 100-150 doesn't affect ffb, only stops wheel at correct place when using soft lock (changing degrees of rotation by the car ,Citroen C4 is 540degree car with soft lock and I use this degrees)

- wheel center force: 50 should be enough if u use this , needs to be enabled (only active at the start line and in resets back to road, will center the wheel if u forget to do that yourself)

[DmAnd]

Originally posted by karik_FIN_134:

I have fanatec V3 brake force set 100%. Can stomp on brakes maximal without huge risk of locking up, I can hit 100% really have to put body in it (I have firm rig so 100% works for me). I have few percent (2-5%) of deadzone on brake start so when foot is just resting on pedal can't apply any brakes accidentally when not needed, brake saturation 100%. Throttle is 0% deadzone, saturation 100%.

1spare adds some weight which slows u you down but with Citroen racing weight with crew etc is close to 1500kg so an extra 20kg on top of that means very minimal time loss, in Finland it's less than 0.10s/km (or 0.16s/mile) so not much even thought all 12stages with total 120km(74.6mi) it's less than 12s extra in +50min of racing.

These would be wheel setting for that T300 (I have also used t300 in the past for 3years). Maybe worth testing how it feels if u currently use much different settings.

Thrustmaster Control Panel
- overall strength 100%
- periodic 100%
- constant 100%
- dampers 100%
- springs 100%
- auto-center: 0%, OFF
- allow game to do changes: YES
Boost-mode off

In game: (with Citroen C4 maybe no need for changes)

2.72 Nm 3.04 Nm 3.40 Nm
self align torque 68 76 85
wheel friction < 34 > < 38 > < 42 >
tyre friction 68 76 85
suspension 41-68 46-76 51-85
collision 0 (just makes recovering harder when hitting stuff, crashing etc)

wheel friction: adjust this higher if u have too much of oscillation in the wheel(it doesn't settle), and of course lower this value if wheel isn't oscillating too much.

soft lock 100-150 doesn't affect ffb, only stops wheel at correct place when using soft lock (changing degrees of rotation by the car ,Citroen C4 is 540degree car with soft lock and I use this degrees)

wheel center force: 50 should be enough if u use this , needs to be enabled (only active at the start line and in resets back to road, will center the wheel if u forget to do that yourself)

Thanks!!!!!!!
I forgot, i used to put the wheel rotation to 540 in control panel. Since i started playing again i just use maximum rotation and softlock. Messing with linarity on older cars but yes, the 540 will be much better like before

[karik_FIN_134]

Well Citroen C4 is 540degrees (also Gr A MItsu is 540dor) when using soft lock, just have soft lock ffb 100-150 to get stop after 270degrees both ways so u don't turn too much in vain.

I use soft lock rotations in the cars (with some differences based on irl info), but I change degrees straight to base/control panel for every car because I don't like soft lock bumpstop as when u hold steering at max lock(where it stops for a certain car) it makes wheel sort of bounce there which feels quite annoying to me.

[DmAnd]

Originally posted by karik_FIN_134:

Well Citroen C4 is 540degrees (also Gr A MItsu is 540dor) when using soft lock, just have soft lock ffb 100-150 to get stop after 270degrees both ways so u don't turn too much in vain.

I use soft lock rotations in the cars (with some differences based on irl info), but I change degrees straight to base/control panel for every car because I don't like soft lock bumpstop as when u hold steering at max lock(where it stops for a certain car) it makes wheel sort of bounce there which feels quite annoying to me.

Yes, i have heard about the bumpstop with DD wheels. My friend has one and mentioned it. As i am sure you are aware of, the T300 just stops and does not bounce back. Although i think i remember it doing that somewhere in some game. Could have been Dirt Rally the 1st.

I plan to upgrade my wheel to DD very soon. Thinking somewhere between 8 and 12 torque.

Torn between a Moza and accuforce v2. Also interested in the T818 but need to look into it more. I aleady have a quick release rim that is compatable with the t818 base, just need to buy the new adapter.

I know torque is a big consideration when buying a DD wheel. I am curious what secondary considerations are like motor type and latency / data speed.

[IdleTalk]

My private remedy for the same problem:
1. Turn off "Co-driver end stage audio" in the game option.
2. Drive same car that you drove for the previous championship.
3. Try narrower steering angle. Going from 540 to 360 helped me a lot.

[DmAnd]

I think i found a easy peezy class....R2, the Ford.
3 cylinders of turbo charged mayhem!
Just finished my first couple stages last night on a car i just bought with no engine upgrades. Finished those two stages between 7th and 10th.

The future looks bright.

Plus that car is a lot of fun. I usually don't like FWD, but this thing handles like AWD