Need to remove the always online requirement now

[John Johnson]

So the run of this game is more or less over now it's only the hardcore fans still going at it, there won't be any more updates and eventually the servers are going to be shut down. It's time to remove this absolutely stupid requirement. It would be dumb and annoying even if it worked properly, since it ruins your entire game for no apparent reason it is completely inexcusable.

4 legs into the championship and it was reset because of a discrepancy between local and server data. Third time this has happened to me, I quit 'properly' through all the exit game menus, gave it plenty of time to connect and save everything and do what it needed to do, hadn't changed any settings or anything. I've seen a bunch of theories as to why this happens and none of them apply to me, it seems totally random.

~1/4 times I try to play the game I just can't because it won't connect. Had to buy a wifi extender just to get a solid enough connection even though it was fine for everything else - browsing, video calls and even online gaming only had occasional lags before and now run perfectly with the extender, yet this game still gives me problems. This is absolute madness.

Codemasters need to do a final patch to save myteam to local data, and they need to do it now.

[Marcille Donato]

I'm totally with you bro. The always online requirement for playing single player mode has been a ♥♥♥♥♥ joke since the first time it was implemented. If I remember correctly, CM defended that it was to avoid cheaters. I don't get it, who the f cares about cheating on a SINGLE PLAYER game?? It's not like that other people will be affected from it. I really don't think that there's anything even worth to cheat for in the career mode, in the first place. This game could easily be one of the best racing games but this particular system destroyed that chance.

[John Johnson]

Yep, exactly right.

"You can not progress through the game because your career will be constantly reset to make sure other people aren't cheating which doesn't affect you at all"

Stupidest thing I have ever heard of in my life. They messed up really bad with this and it's time to put it right. I'll never buy another game from them if they don't fix this.

[AguilaDeAcero]

2021 and forced online requeriment it's still On. Geez!

[FubyDoo]

remove the always online requirement now!

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Bruce Wayne:

I'm totally with you bro. The always online requirement for playing single player mode has been a ♥♥♥♥♥ joke since the first time it was implemented. If I remember correctly, CM defended that it was to avoid cheaters. I don't get it, who the f cares about cheating on a SINGLE PLAYER game?? It's not like that other people will be affected from it. I really don't think that there's anything even worth to cheat for in the career mode, in the first place. This game could easily be one of the best racing games but this particular system destroyed that chance.

Maybe because the cheaters may find a way to make the cheats to work with the leaderboards at time trial or even online if they are allowed to use it at single player content.

[John Johnson]

The simple fix for that is to not allow times on the global leaderboard when not connected.

I just want to reiterate that I am unable to play the game because of what I can only assume are very minor, very occasional connection problems. It's not some small inconvenience it is denying me the ability to play the game that I have paid for. 3 times in a row my career progress is reset so I have to go back through for hours doing all the ♥♥♥♥ I've already done, I won't do it again unless this is fixed because I'm sure it will keep happening. Searching online finds dozens of people saying the same thing.

[ReplicaX]

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

Maybe because the cheaters may find a way to make the cheats to work with the leaderboards at time trial or even online if they are allowed to use it at single player content.

I would rather have online leaderboards disabled if playing offline. Why?

When you run an entire championship legitimately, have a solid ISP, and are "connected". Only to have the dreaded "local save / server inconsistency error" cause the DR2 servers are horrible and you have to start all over again.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by ReplicaX:

Originally posted by EF_Neo1st:

Maybe because the cheaters may find a way to make the cheats to work with the leaderboards at time trial or even online if they are allowed to use it at single player content.

I would rather have online leaderboards disabled if playing offline. Why?

When you run an entire championship legitimately, have a solid ISP, and are "connected". Only to have the dreaded "local save / server inconsistency error" cause the DR2 servers are horrible and you have to start all over again.

No, the cheater can activate it offline or at single player then use it at multiplayer or leaderboard.
1 moment it slip through the defenses and the game may be tainted, that is the problem.

Matter of fact, DR 2.0 is the only game I still did not see any time trial leaderboard with cheated times (tho there is a huge amount of leaderboards and I never gone through all of these).

[AguilaDeAcero]

Who cares about leaderboards when you can't even play the main atraction of the game or it keeps reseting!

[John Johnson]

Originally posted by AguilaDeAcero:

Who cares about leaderboards when you can't even play the main atraction of the game or it keeps reseting!

Exactly, I couldn't care less if every leaderboard time is a cheat because I can not play the game at all as is.

Anyway you could just choose to do an offline career mode where none of your times are ever eligible, even if you connect later. Makes no difference to me, I just want to play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Edelf Hetler:

Originally posted by AguilaDeAcero:

Who cares about leaderboards when you can't even play the main atraction of the game or it keeps reseting!

Exactly, I couldn't care less if every leaderboard time is a cheat because I can not play the game at all as is.

Anyway you could just choose to do an offline career mode where none of your times are ever eligible, even if you connect later. Makes no difference to me, I just want to play the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ game.

I understand that it can be frustrating to have some progress not recorded because of that, but if they make it without check and after that I see a cheated time at the time trial leaderboard ... the moment I find 1 single cheated time at time trial leaderboard is the moment I will uninstall DR 2.0 for good and put my review to negative.

I think they should keep the career saved at the computer and the upload it to cloud as soon as the game reconnects to RaceNet. That I dont know why it dont happen.

DR 2.0 is the only game I praise for never finding any cheated timetrial leaderboard time and the only reason I keep coming back to it from time to time.

[Xenial Jesse]

That's the thing.. Time Trial doesn't need a connection to play, and still no cheat times.
So wtf with Career Rally.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Xenial Jesse:

That's the thing.. Time Trial doesn't need a connection to play, and still no cheat times.
So wtf with Career Rally.

Career dont need connection as it is single player only, Time Trial leaderboards need as it is times from players not AIs.

Career could have a save on computer and for that I really dont understand why.
I could care less if someone beat Masters with all cars with 0.001s stage time for all stages at career as it would be only this player experience destroyed.
But let people cheat time trial leaderboards and I am sure we will see a lot of times 30s faster than everyone, 1min faster and 0.001s or even 0.000s stage times on the longest stages.

[Xenial Jesse]

What I mean is that as it exists already, Time Trial doesn't require a running connection (as you probably know). You can play it offline and get all the times you want; the game just uploads them later.

The point being that whatever cheating-related excuse there is for forcing a connection in Career Rally, Time Trial's ability to exist cheat-free without that same forced connection blows that excuse away. There's no need to demand Career mode lose its tie-in to the leaderboards; Time Trial already is tied to its own leaderboards, doesn't demand a running connection, and works fine.

(Now that I think of it, how does a stage raced in Custom mode handle this? You can play it offline... and doesn't that also upload to the same leaderboards as Career?)

I can only guess that they literally valued security around career and garage progress more than actual leaderboards. Which is bonkers.

[EF_Neo1st]

Originally posted by Xenial Jesse:

What I mean is that as it exists already, Time Trial doesn't require a running connection (as you probably know). You can play it offline and get all the times you want; the game just uploads them later.

The point being that whatever cheating-related excuse there is for forcing a connection in Career Rally, Time Trial's ability to exist cheat-free without that same forced connection blows that excuse away. There's no need to demand Career mode lose its tie-in to the leaderboards; Time Trial already is tied to its own leaderboards, doesn't demand a running connection, and works fine.

(Now that I think of it, how does a stage raced in Custom mode handle this? You can play it offline... and doesn't that also upload to the same leaderboards as Career?)

I can only guess that they literally valued security around career and garage progress more than actual leaderboards. Which is bonkers.

The "You can play it offline and get all the times you want; the game just uploads them later" would be a cheaters dream for time trial leaderboards . . . career dont need connection online because it is single player, time trial leaderboards are multiplayer (because the leaderboards are players times only).

I dont understand why career need to be online (or why it can not be saved on computer and uploaded to cloud whenever the game reconnect to RaceNet) . . . this really dont make sense (but time trials that are players only do make sense to be under constant verification because of cheaters).