Keeping speed uphill

[ColdMetal]

I only drive RWD if that helps.

What's the technique for keeping speed when turning uphill on dirt?
Like turn in earlier, or stick it a gear under the pacenote? Or is it just a matter of commitment or something. This is just such a trainwreck for me everytime, no idea how to approach them.

[lich0]

Pace notes do not indicate gears. Depending on the car, sometimes it alignes, but you shouldn’t be looking at it this way.

You want to keep the revs high going through the corner, so adjust gears accordingly.

The car will lose speed quicker when going uphill, so you might want to brake later (or engine brake). It also (at least it should in theory) affects grip levels, meaning there should be less of it, so take that into account as well.

[ColdMetal]

Originally posted by lich0:

Pace notes do not indicate gears. Depending on the car, sometimes it alignes, but you shouldn’t be looking at it this way.

Yea of course, just a vague outline.

So generally lower gear, later brake. How about your line into the turn, do you use the same approach?

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

let me think... (rwd)
...you are going uphill, so more of the car's weight is already shifted to the rear. Means: front wheels are already lighter and having a harder time giving you positive turn-in. Which means: if you are confident you can break traction and keep it together for a given slope, you can initiate a shallow-angle slide in front of the apex. I usually prefer shift-lock
If you know your energy is too low for a slide or the hairpin is extra-nasty with too steep a slope, you need to baby it.

Then again, when grip is high (tarmac): don't slide it when you don't need to..

The problem for me at least was to be patient and not overspeed coming into most of the corners. Most time is lost when getting the corner wrong and not having the car settled upon exit. Corner exit-speed is everything. More important than hitting the perfect braking-point. And much less risky, too.

[Eagleizer]

Originally posted by ColdMetal:

I only drive RWD if that helps.

What's the technique for keeping speed when turning uphill on dirt?
Like turn in earlier, or stick it a gear under the pacenote? Or is it just a matter of commitment or something. This is just such a trainwreck for me everytime, no idea how to approach them.

Finish braking before the corner. Then carefully increase throttle trough the corner.
Here is an example from Greece (Greece is a great place to practice this):

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2417840222

You'll find 100+ more world record runs with the 037 in both DR1 and DR2 on my YouTube channel. Most of my videos have 3-4 camera angles too, which makes it ideal for study how to drive RWD.

Cheers :)

P.S.
Pace notes have NOTHING to do with gears. It is a numbering system for how difficult a turn is relative to the speed you probably have when approaching it. The number will have different meaning for a slow driver compared to a fast, since a faster approach will make the corner more difficult. In other words, IRL, a slower driver/car would have a higher number for the same turn. (And IRL, there are other ways of announcing a turn. Different drivers have different note systems, like steering wheel degrees for turns...)

[ColdMetal]

Hmm both help much appreciated. I think a big part of my problem like Simon is simply hitting them to fast. In my mind I always think oh uphill, need a ton more speed.

Eagle thanks for the visual! Perfect spot to practice for sure.