Yes, you don't get better quality by buying a racing wheel for 750 EUR than one for 100 EUR.

[njfj]

Yes, you don't get better quality by buying a racing wheel for 750 EUR than one for 100 EUR.
Usually quality comes with price, but not when they get it produced in China.
Incredibly they don't check every racing wheel before leaving the factory when they demand a price of 700 - 800 EUR.
Even Fanatec gets bad reputation on Trustpliot for selling products with errors, and you have to pay for sending the racing wheel back (costs about 50-80 EUR to return to another country)
Has even had a Thrustmaster t500 delivered to 550 ERU.
Don't dare buy a Fanate in Germany, with the mention they get on Trustpliot.
Have tried a G29 but think the brake pedal is strange and the G29 doesn't have much force peaceback and no software to change what Thrustmaster has.
So now there is probably only Thrustmaster I have the opportunity to buy and then buy in a physical store, so you do not have to send a defective steering wheel back, with the shipping prices that are now.
Thrustmaster T-GT: I think I have a steering wheel that I don't like with all the buttons.
Thrustmaster TS-XW Racer Sparco P310 Competition Mod:
The steering wheel I think is better, which has 31 cm steering wheel
How much difference is there on racing "wheel servo base". On a T-GT: and a TS-XW Racer Sparco P310 ??

[Nero]

I absolutely disagree with that opinion.
Pretty much every part in your PC is made in china: Monitor,PC components,Keyboard,mouse,Stereo-boxes,even the Gaming chair you sit on.

its not about "Made in china" its about their Quality control and Quality standards.

Of course you get A way better quality when you spend more money for Quality Brand products.

I had a 60€ Hama Thunder V5 and it was horrible: Pedal creaked, FFB (even tho advertised) didnt work and it was made out of cheap plastic and rubber.

I changed to a G29 and the difference is very noticable: Strong force feedback, Settings program, 920° (adjustable) turnradius, High quality Sintered Metal Gears, Real leather Wheel cover.

so you definitely get what you pay for.

[njfj]

its not about "Made in china" its about their Quality control and Quality standards.

Of course you get A way better quality when you spend more money for Quality Brand products.



I changed to a G29 and the difference is very noticable: Strong force feedback, Settings program, 920° (adjustable) turnradius, High quality Sintered Metal Gears, Real leather Wheel cover.

so you definitely get what you pay for. [/quote]



I don't mind it being manufactured in China. But why don't they have their Quality control and Quality standards in order?
Volkswagen also gets produced in other countries, but they must keep the same Quality control and Quality standards as if they were produced in Germany.

Yes, you get more when you pay more money, but it shouldn't be with mistakes then.
My experience with Strong force feedback was much better in the T500 than the G29, the different road surfaces are felt much better with the T500.

[lich0]

Agree.

That’s why I’ve settled for the T300. I’ve got a 2 year warranty and if it fails during that time, I’ll just drop it of to a local store and they’ll have to deal with the repairs or replace it with a new one.

I would expect top quality for the price Fanatec is asking, but apparently that’s not the case. Even their customer support has a bad reputation.

T-GT and TS-XW share the same servo base. T-GT was the official wheel for GT Sport and has PS4 support.

There are DD wheels on the market from other manufacturers, but these things are really expensive.

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

Thrustmaster currently offers 3 tiers of wheels:

beginner-friendly, "weak-sauce" (T150, TMX)

nice-but-slightly-flawed: ( T300, Tx -- both in various configurations/bundles )

mid-range, often slightly overpriced ( TS-PC, TS-XW, T-GT )

Any of these works on the PC. The PS4-centric versions as well as the "TS-PC" offer a maximum of 1080° of rotation, those targeting xbox iirc top out at 900°. Those within the same tier perform pretty much exactly the same when used on the PC. The additional bass-shaker installed in the T-GT iirc only works with one game on Playstation and is otherwise dead-weight. I personally would never, ever chose the T-GT with the "official" GT-sport wheel-rim over any of the other sister-wheels. There is just no point as I personally have no interest in that game or console-ecosystem to begin with - but that is just me.

If you want the best customer-service, try to find a retailer / online-shop with offices inside your own country of residence. Don't just go with the cheapest listing.

[Ekskom]

Most of what you want to know about getting a wheel and accessories is in this reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/wiki/buyingguide

[4speed318]

a T-300 and a set of T-LCM pedals is all you need
I have Fanatec V2.5, T-300, and G25, and use them all

[njfj]

Originally posted by Ekskom:

Most of what you want to know about getting a wheel and accessories is in this reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/simracing/wiki/buyingguide

thanks, super website

[njfj]

Originally posted by 4speed318:

a T-300 and a set of T-LCM pedals is all you need
I have Fanatec V2.5, T-300, and G25, and use them all

OK.
there must be a difference between these models?
Force feedback is not the same on these models?
Is there one of them you would prefer to drive with?

[4speed318]

the logitech G25 G27 G29 G920 are a bit underpowered and noisy for the price, not a bad choice if you can get it CHEAP on sale or used, good but not great
or the thrustmaster T-150 (PS) or TMX (xbox) cheap on sale

the thrustmaster T-300 or TX (one is playstation the other is xbox, both work on PC) is a better choice, much stronger feedback motor, much smoother and much quieter,

plus the new thrustmaster T-LCM pedals are an excellent choice, much better than the logitech pedals or the thrustmaster T3PA pedals,

good pedals are much more important than the wheel, a good wheel is fun, but good pedals make you FASTER!

Fanatec is very nice and very expensive, if money is no object get Fanatec

but the Thrustmaster T-300 and T-LCM pedals are almost Fanatec level for a LOT less money

[njfj]

Thanks for the input 4speed318

I'm thinking a TS-PC RACER Ferrari 488 Challenge Edition + T-LCM Pedals

It's it's almost the same price as one, TS-XW Racer Sparco P310 Competition Mod

Maybe later a steering wheel like that.
Rally Wheel Add-On Sparco® R383 Mod

[M82]

Originally posted by njfj:

its not about "Made in china" its about their Quality control and Quality standards.

I don't mind it being manufactured in China. But why don't they have their Quality control and Quality standards in order?

The reason being that the people that work in Chinese factories are paid like crap and prioritize cost saving over quality. If the Chinese were paid a Western minimum wage (about 1000 to 1100 € / month) and quality control was instaured, the prices would go up so much that there wouldn't be any point for any of this stuff to be produced in China in the first place. And trust me buying yourself a race wheel would be an hell of a luxury, just like buying many, many other products would be. Be thankful for the Chinese worker slaves.

[4speed318]

Originally posted by njfj:

Thanks for the input 4speed318

I'm thinking a TS-PC RACER Ferrari 488 Challenge Edition + T-LCM Pedals

It's it's almost the same price as one, TS-XW Racer Sparco P310 Competition Mod

Maybe later a steering wheel like that.
Rally Wheel Add-On Sparco® R383 Mod

that sound like a nice set up, don't forget the TH8A shifter!!!

[njfj]

I have a the TH8A shifter !! and handbrake.
Just missing a good steering wheel and pedals

[rob_every05]

T300 is the pain in the arse as the paddles stay on the base, not with the wheel, stupid design.

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

Originally posted by rob_every05:

T300 is the pain in the arse as the paddles stay on the base, not with the wheel, stupid design.

you are misinformed, clearly.
Column-mounted shifter-pedals are an optional purchase. Almost all wheels have them mounted on the rim (they turn with the weel, which is actually not adventageous for rally and/or drifting )