Monte Carlo Gear Problems

[Avendor]

I drive in semiautomatic and on MC the car (in my experience the Polo R5) shifts way too early when its gets on ice. Its just rediculous when you try to get a hard curve and its shifting upwards all the time. Please fix this, it doesnt make fun to shift manually downwards all the time.
This is my experience:
https://youtu.be/J0vJM-HJM5M
Anybody else experienced that too?

[DessIntress]

Fine Tune, to avoid it. You already know your problem, look at the tunings and read their descriptions to control it. Another option would be to learn when to slow down and when to accelerate. (Recommend both...)

There is really no problem with an automatic.

[Avendor]

Originally posted by DessIntress:

Fine Tune, to avoid it. You already know your problem, look at the tunings and read their descriptions to control it. Another option would be to learn when to slow down and when to accelerate. (Recommend both...)

There is really no problem with an automatic.

Just try it out on ice. When you drive at 80 km/h it goes in fith gear. wth. In other terrain it acts just normal.

[DessIntress]

Originally posted by Avendor:

Just try it out on ice. When you drive at 80 km/h it goes in fith gear. wth. In other terrain it acts just normal.

I already bought and played it yesterday - and today again. AWD && FWD

[Norko]

Just made a post on this as well, didn´t see yours sadly... hope they fix this soon. Absolutely no fun like this. Auto completely ignores the powerband when hitting a patch of snow/ice and just upshifts without any reason to. In corners it just doesn´t want to shift down again..

Maybe DessIntress is right and one can counter this weird behaviour with a much tighter gear ratio.. but given that you first have to unlock tuning on your cars I don´t think this is intentional.. will try it out tomorrow

[{DDB} Ghostface and chill]

What reason could you possibly have to want the game shift for you sometimes but force shift other times? you just lose an aspect of control with semi auto

[Ph4s3]

+1

[Avendor]

Originally posted by ゴストフェース:

What reason could you possibly have to want the game shift for you sometimes but force shift other times? you just lose an aspect of control with semi auto

I shift downwards before entering curves, then you get a engine brake. With full auto its like pressing the clutch all along if youre breaking full. In addition to that sometimes, mostly with less powerfull cars, such as the lancia Fulvia. The car upshifts on hills and then after 3 secs it downshifts because it losed to much speed during the shift.

[{DDB} Ghostface and chill]

Originally posted by Avendor:

Originally posted by ゴストフェース:

What reason could you possibly have to want the game shift for you sometimes but force shift other times? you just lose an aspect of control with semi auto

I shift downwards before entering curves, then you get a engine brake. With full auto its like pressing the clutch all along if youre breaking full. In addition to that sometimes, mostly with less powerfull cars, such as the lancia Fulvia. The car upshifts on hills and then after 3 secs it downshifts because it losed to much speed during the shift.

Honestly you are killing yourself by not playing on manual. You have so much more control you can be much faster. Get used to it and you will see what i mean.

[Simon said EAT DUST PLAYER_1 !]

Originally posted by ゴストフェース:

Originally posted by Avendor:

I shift downwards before entering curves, then you get a engine brake. With full auto its like pressing the clutch all along if youre breaking full. In addition to that sometimes, mostly with less powerfull cars, such as the lancia Fulvia. The car upshifts on hills and then after 3 secs it downshifts because it losed to much speed during the shift.

Honestly you are killing yourself by not playing on manual. You have so much more control you can be much faster. Get used to it and you will see what i mean.

a big YES to this!

@op: if you want to truly drive at a fast pace while still leaving a margin for error, you need to take control of your own gear-shifts. Rally is not drag-racing in a straight line. Shifting is not done purely to maximise the use of the engine's power-band. Once you realise that shifting-strategy in Rally is a bit more complex than "revs too low, not enough power" - is the moment you will get faster and never look back.

[Bigbazz]

It's time to learn to use a manual, that said short shifting on ice isn't always a bad idea. Once you learn to use a manual it's so natural you don't even think about it, and it really gives you that finer control you want.

[DessIntress]

Again... It works well with automatic shifting and it acts like it should. Others have no problems with it.
As I've said, learn when to slow down and when to accelerate. If you are still struggling, then check the tuning area. (My gears aren't tuned, but others much more important parts are tuned)

Yes, you can get benefits by driving with manual shifting, but manual isn't required and both have their benefits.
It's just required if you want the real WRC experience or a few extra milliseconds up to a few seconds in the top20-50 of an ending com-event. I were already place 20, 76, 226 etc in almost ending weeklies and dailies. Also had good first attempts in time driving: 6th in Las Juntas/Rain, 9th in Te Awanga Forward/Rain and last but not least 10th in Noorinbee Ridge Decent/Rain.
And I'm certainly not the best driver. I don't even have a driver's license and have narcotic plants as medicine. *lol*

Know the game and especially your control device, then it doesn't really matter if you drive with automatic or manual. Would practice before they publish Sweden, otherwise you will get massive issues.

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Just by the way... Each ground condition has it's own tuning, so it would be really easy to change the "early shifting" for MC and other snow stages, if required. (And you can save more than one tuning per ground condition) There is simply no reason why CM should impose your preferred tuning to anyone, when you can do it by yourself in a few seconds. So many people would have to change their already saved tunings, only because you don't like a personalized tuning. (late edit: rather, those who have previously played with the standards suddenly need a tuning.)

[Raigavin]

Originally posted by ゴストフェース:

Honestly you are killing yourself by not playing on manual. You have so much more control you can be much faster. Get used to it and you will see what i mean.

I agree on this too, with manual gears you have another aspect of vehicle control and it feels really great controlling the power transmission from engine to wheels.

You are literally have another +20% to +50% additional control over your vehicle, if you consider steering, braking (and/or handbrake) as different control points.

Edit: Also the feedback you receive from the game really helps you with gear shifting, the engine audio queues, the RPM meter (or indicators) and vibrations (if you have it enabled for your controller/wheel).

[Avendor]

Guys, first of all, I appreciate your feedback on this topic. To all those who think I should swap to manual. You're all right, but after university, I want to have a relaxed rally drive and with manual shifting, I must concentrate on this aspect too, and I don't want that too. It's enough for me to reach almost every time top 40, sometimes even top 20 in daily/weekly so I don't want to try harder. It's just that I don't understand why the freak the car shifts this terrible. I played Dirt Rally 1.0 for a couple of hours (72) and there was no problem in Monte Carlo or Sweden with the shifting.

I made a video for that one guy who thinks that there is no problem with the automatic, in the description of it, there are some of my favourite examples to prove that he's wrong.
You can clearly see that the shifts are normal on asphalt but when it hits the ice/snow it just shifts upwards at 5k or even less. And after that the shifts downwards came way too late.

Here's the video: https://youtu.be/J0vJM-HJM5M

I wish you a good weekend and better shifts than me ;)

[Bigbazz]

If you're in university then you're young enough to not have an excuse to complain about being tired. When you learn manual it doesn't require concentration after a while, it's just natural and automatic, you don't need to actively think about it once you've trained it into yourself.

I find people who use this approach are just finding excuses to be lazy at their own expense, a skill once developed becomes effortless and natural, god forbid you have to put a little effort in to learn it initially.

Even so, shifting at 5k rpm on the snow isn't such a bad thing because you reduce the chance of wheelspin, which actually makes driving on the snow easier, it's not ideal with the automatic but you can improve acceleration on Snow by short-shifting as a type of traction control.