Co Driver notes, worse ever?

[Crash McWreakit VR]

317 hours in, over 1000 in D1 and played every codemasters rally game since CMR. Are these just some of the most inaccurate notes ever?

Apart from some corners severity being way off, the late calls especially on high speed flat sections into 3s and 4s are disasterous. Poland is very bad.

I'm set full early on the calls, but calling a left or right 3 50m before the corner when flat in 6th gear is just stupid, No way to slow the cars down.

I can't go remembering every late call, especially as I don't like to hotlap and learn a stage continuously. I'm surprised Petter Sohlberg ever actually won a championship with this Welsh Monkey reading the notes.

We need a pace note editor or CM do a full review. I can't believe Jon Armstrong let some of these notes slip by during his testing sessions either.

[christoph1954]

Same to me. If you don´t know the track by heart you are completely lost if you rely on the pacenotes. I doubt Jon Armstrong is responsible for this mess - must have been the cleaning woman.

[Colactix]

Some of them are so out they have to be mistakes. You mentioned Poland - just came in from a Rally GT daily event and it's mental. Halfway around a 4 and then into a tree before the Co Driver even calls. It's not even that I need to slow down the calls, because then half the corners are called a mile before (obviously there's personal preference in this). Seems to be an inconsistency in how they are managed, because then the next three corners are called rapidly as if it's trying to catch up. For example in Spain they all appear to be perfect.

[flagg]

Co-drivers of Codemasters are real ♥♥♥♥.

[zefrancou]

There are few unfortunate wrong calls from the co driver, specifically in Poland and in US. I try to remember the traps, but at night, I often end in crashing the car because of these.

[LibranRabbit...the 1%]

Crash McWreakit 🤔 if your on P.C. and only, get the Dirty Pace Notes mod from RaceDepartment and make your own.

[Nano606]

The best one is on Germany (dont know the stage name) where it is a left uphill hairpin and the co-driver says "Hair pin" but does not say which direction it is....

[Crash McWreakit VR]

Originally posted by LibranRabbit...the 1%:

Crash McWreakit 🤔 if your on P.C. and only, get the Dirty Pace Notes mod from RaceDepartment and make your own.

yah I heard about this one, not looked into it yet. Having the time to go through and mod is a huge issue. Its the devs job after all to get it done right.

[Crash McWreakit VR]

Originally posted by christoph1954:

Same to me. If you don´t know the track by heart you are completely lost if you rely on the pacenotes. I doubt Jon Armstrong is responsible for this mess - must have been the cleaning woman.

for sure I'm not laying this on Jon, but I wonder if the notes were checked using much slower cars. It's with cars capable of high speeds. This problem exists in most if not all locations in the game.

Trouble is this would require a full re programming of the game, they couldn't patch this by just adjusting the timing over the whole game. Because generally a lot of the notes are ok. They'd need to go through every stage, every location at high speed to find the bugged notes. Unfortunately we know CM only too well and it probably won't get fixed.

In fact it's not a case of moving the timing of the calls, some need a rewrite, because it feels as if some stages have been noted using "soundbites" plonked in where a dev has felt it should be.

There is a lack of fluidity in transitions. Some series of corners need the words "into" and "immediate" adding in, along with some "double cautions" for good measure.

In real life we hear of some drivers having "local knowledge" this is akin to learning and remembering stages in the game. But in my albeit short rally career you learn to trust your notes, not your memory.

[Elio]

Same situation here... in french !
Even in setting the speed of his calls, It will be always too late or too early, a true nightmare.

[PoppaCapnurass]

I've had DR2 for about a week now and honestly it's been about a year since I played any Dirt title seriously.

I had a look at this thread a few days ago and wasn't sure about responding. I have noticed that the calls are not as clean as the other titles I play (all the Codies ones!) and tonight in Germany I was passing corners and my off sider was calling that corner AFTER I had negotiated it. This happened repeatedly.

My calls are on "late", 'cause that's how I have enjoyed them in the other titles. But "after" is something I have never encountered before.

Having said that, it's _normally_ not too hard to just keep your eye out and assess the upcoming corner situation.

Perhaps as we move into this title we will see an improvement as we train our off-sider?

[G™]

Originally posted by christoph1954:

Because generally a lot of the notes are ok. They'd need to go through every stage, every location at high speed to find the bugged notes. Unfortunately we know CM only too well and it probably won't get fixed.

Unfortunately in rally, "generally" good notes are not enough. Especially high speed 5's and 6`s. :)
Ask Neuville, he knows it first hand. :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLzD08JQTcw

[Hank from breaking bad]

So many 4's should've been 3's or even 2's. I want the DR1 co-driver back! DR1 was more accurate and the notes are given in a way that's easily to visualize the track ahead.

[LibranRabbit...the 1%]

After years of Rallying, top Rally driver admits to not knowing what his Navigator was saying... http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/09/20/rally-driver-admits-he-has-no-idea-what-co-driver-is-talking-about/

[LibranRabbit...the 1%]

I've just spent two complete rally’s without any navigation audio and pulled first and second.

[Crash McWreakit VR]

Originally posted by LibranRabbit...the 1%:

After years of Rallying, top Rally driver admits to not knowing what his Navigator was saying... http://www.newsbiscuit.com/2012/09/20/rally-driver-admits-he-has-no-idea-what-co-driver-is-talking-about/