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Sir Gigachad of Thundercock 6 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 3: 47am
What the hell is wrong with snow driving?
Title.


On a serious note, what the hell is that handling, 30kmh or slide on every turn lol
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โพสต์ต้นฉบับโดย zefrancou:
I haven't read previous posts, so may be it was answered already.
Frankly I find easier to drive in sweden than in Monte carlo, but there are few tips that may be useful, at least based on my experience (quite often in the top 30 of events)
On snow, car setup is critical to avoid hitting snow banks at each turn. You have to try negative cambers , but not too extreme. Usually I have more negative cambers at the back than in front.
Adjust the differential to find the right balance (under and oversteer) that allows you staying on tracks.
On RWD, set the toe angle at -1.00 at front. Stiff springs at front and soft at rear, stiff roll bar at front, soft roll bar at rear
The height around the middle in sweden, very low on MC .
Slightly softer dampers than basics setup and stiffer springs on 4WD and FWD.

Now the rest depends on the driving style. On ice and snow parts in MC, I try to keep constant high rev in turns to gain grip and stay on the tracks . If I release throttle during a turn....the car crashes. So better slowing down before the turn and accelerate at the entry, putting the nose already in position ....before you can see the end of turn. The car will slide, but when you regain the grip, it kicks in to the next turn.

In sweden, it is more subtile, high rev in turns to get grip but sometimes, using feathers on the throttle.

Most important....drive , drive drive....and you'll end with very satisfying runs.

for info check setups from GTR technical dirt rally 2.0 on youtube, very good basis to adapt further to your own driving style.
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Aurora 7 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 1: 14am 
Tap the brakes a little before corner entry. The weight shifting you use on gravel is even more important on the Swedish stages.
You literally can't drive here without sliding all over. You'll need to get used to turning super early and sliding the cars through the corners. It'll help a lot to keep a little power on at all times too since there's barely enough grip for any amount of diff pre-load to matter. You'll need to stop the diffs from opening manually with this small amount of throttle - This will help give the car some direction.
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EF_Neo1st 7 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 4: 05am 
After some tries trying to get better and not hit the banks . . .

I know what is wrong with snow driving . . . my driving :steamhappy:
(still I noticed parts where I could do better by not going flat out, will need much more practice to get the hang of snow and that track).
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Randomheppu 7 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 7: 17am 
Here is something what I say often to new rally drivers in Finland.

1. Use low RPM in corners. High gear in, low gear out is the old man's advice.
2. Turn wheels too early and try to hit couple inch more inside than driving line.
3. Do not ever drive straight before the turn. Car always need to slide somewhere. Some call this as the Scandinavian flip.

Hopefully this helps a little
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Nuke 7 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 12: 14pm 
Check the camber too the auto setup can get a little carried away sometimes.
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Sir Gigachad of Thundercock 7 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 3: 50pm 
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย PetriH:
Here is something what I say often to new rally drivers in Finland.

1. Use low RPM in corners. High gear in, low gear out is the old man's advice.
2. Turn wheels too early and try to hit couple inch more inside than driving line.
3. Do not ever drive straight before the turn. Car always need to slide somewhere. Some call this as the Scandinavian flip.

Hopefully this helps a little

Didn't, but thanks.
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Sir Gigachad of Thundercock 7 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 3: 50pm 
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Nuke:
Check the camber too the auto setup can get a little carried away sometimes.

I'll try that
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ANZACMonash-AAPG Daniel 8 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 12: 38am 
WHilst I have never driven during snow, I have seen plenty of trucks and cars stopped on hills and things in Japan.
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1428998/hundreds-cars-stuck-snow-hit-japan

At first when it is snowing there isn't too much drama. But once things start melting it gets to be an ice rink and very slippery. Everything stops.

Correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I think what happened.


Cold snow that hasn't melted is ok, but a little melting.....

So in terms of simulating......I am not sure if it is different to drive as it is snowing compared to a sunny day when things possibly might melt.
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Sir Gigachad of Thundercock 8 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 10: 14am 
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ANZACMonash-AAPG Daniel:
WHilst I have never driven during snow, I have seen plenty of trucks and cars stopped on hills and things in Japan.
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1428998/hundreds-cars-stuck-snow-hit-japan

At first when it is snowing there isn't too much drama. But once things start melting it gets to be an ice rink and very slippery. Everything stops.

Correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I think what happened.


Cold snow that hasn't melted is ok, but a little melting.....

So in terms of simulating......I am not sure if it is different to drive as it is snowing compared to a sunny day when things possibly might melt.

I am unsure of what you tried to point out lol, sorry.
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SkyRex 8 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 11: 42am 
Take a look, you can go fast. But not as fast as DR 1, which is realisitc if you look at real-world Snowdriving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuestCK6kog
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Sir Gigachad of Thundercock 8 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 11: 46am 
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย SkyRex:
Take a look, you can go fast. But not as fast as DR 1, which is realisitc if you look at real-world Snowdriving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuestCK6kog

I'm not interested in going as fast as DR1, just interested in winning the event.
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☎need4naiim☎ 8 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 3: 38pm 
The "wrong" feeling is the changing of grip levels throughout a snow stage. Even the shadowy parts have different grip levels compared to sunny sections. This ever-changing nature of tyre gripping for different corners catches you even on straights. I mean, the most fluctuating grip levels among current locations exist in Sweden. Because of that, if you miss breaking points in Sweden, you will lose even more time with respect to other tracks. Even Monaco saves you sometimes with barriers but in Sweden, it is snowbanks which are first to handshake with you. Then it is up to them wherever your car will be thrown at with existing momentum. Another treacherous thing there, is the softness of snowbanks. Sometimes they are very soft but sometimes they are white rocks. And it is not easy to tell which is soft while approaching them. Throwing dice does not always help.

All those things above do not show Sweden is wrongly designed. I consider current Sweden as the most appropriate snowy track ever released by Codemasters. Now it is up to us to find the sweet-spot of our setups and driving styles in this white world.
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย ☎need4naiim☎; 8 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 3: 39pm
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ANZACMonash-AAPG Daniel 9 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 2: 26am 
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Awpii:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ANZACMonash-AAPG Daniel:
WHilst I have never driven during snow, I have seen plenty of trucks and cars stopped on hills and things in Japan.
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1428998/hundreds-cars-stuck-snow-hit-japan

At first when it is snowing there isn't too much drama. But once things start melting it gets to be an ice rink and very slippery. Everything stops.

Correct me if I am wrong, but that is what I think what happened.


Cold snow that hasn't melted is ok, but a little melting.....

So in terms of simulating......I am not sure if it is different to drive as it is snowing compared to a sunny day when things possibly might melt.

I am unsure of what you tried to point out lol, sorry.

If you are unsure try this.

When it snows next try driving. Then when said snow is melting and it is 'icy', try driving, if the road isn't blocked from traffic.

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zenixinous 9 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 5: 21am 
Sweden is quite ok and reflects somewhat real world. Monaco though is not even close. (I'm living in Finland where's plenty of snow and ice.)
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Sir Gigachad of Thundercock 9 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 8: 45am 
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ANZACMonash-AAPG Daniel:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Awpii:

I am unsure of what you tried to point out lol, sorry.

If you are unsure try this.

When it snows next try driving. Then when said snow is melting and it is 'icy', try driving, if the road isn't blocked from traffic.

End.

It doesn't snow where I live.
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EF_Neo1st 9 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 3: 02pm 
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Awpii:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย ANZACMonash-AAPG Daniel:

If you are unsure try this.

When it snows next try driving. Then when said snow is melting and it is 'icy', try driving, if the road isn't blocked from traffic.

End.

It doesn't snow where I live.
try to do that experience . . .

Try to push a block of ice from your freezer then try to push an eraser (made of rubber) and see the difference . . .
Then try to set something like sugar, flour or whatever alike and push the rubber . . you feel less resistance than when it is clean but a lot more resistance than when you was pushing the block of ice.

THAT is about the difference between driving in snow when snow is melting and driving on tarmac.
The block of ice have no resistance (less if you let it stick to your table or whatever), the rubber have a lot of resistance.

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Awpii:
โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย SkyRex:
Take a look, you can go fast. But not as fast as DR 1, which is realisitc if you look at real-world Snowdriving:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuestCK6kog

I'm not interested in going as fast as DR1, just interested in winning the event.
That was rude . . . you could at least try and see if it make a difference instead of being like that, he tried to help...
แก้ไขล่าสุดโดย EF_Neo1st; 9 มิ.ย. 2019 @ 3: 05pm
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