Add dragons as a playable race

[JAGIELSKI]

We got the undead, so why not dragons?

[Sleipnir]

Cool! What do you imagine their gameplay mechanics to be?

[JAGIELSKI]

Not really sure. But I know you'd figure something out.

[choppo]

i dont know how they would play as a faction , but it could definitely be something to attack your colony. the wealthier you get the more likely you are to attract 1 or more. perhaps a special mineral/relic that you could mine at the bottom most layers that gives the village some kind of buff as a positive but at the same time attracts a dragon to destroy everything. after you unearth it the dragon would start roaming the land and it could attack other ai colonies around you in search of it, turning them against you......before it finds you.
the dragon could even be tameable aswell, perhaps even rideable. it could even help do forgework or something. other ai colonies could get them and it could start a story event where all the dragons have to duke it out or join forces to stop some cataclysmic event.

[JAGIELSKI]

Originally posted by choppo:

i dont know how they would play as a faction , but it could definitely be something to attack your colony. the wealthier you get the more likely you are to attract 1 or more. perhaps a special mineral/relic that you could mine at the bottom most layers that gives the village some kind of buff as a positive but at the same time attracts a dragon to destroy everything. after you unearth it the dragon would start roaming the land and it could attack other ai colonies around you in search of it, turning them against you......before it finds you.
the dragon could even be tameable aswell, perhaps even rideable. it could even help do forgework or something. other ai colonies could get them and it could start a story event where all the dragons have to duke it out or join forces to stop some cataclysmic event.

I don't like the idea, it makes dragons like a dumb beast where they should be an intelligent species you can reason with (or even trade precious stuff for magic artifacts).

[choppo]

Originally posted by JAGIELSKI:

Originally posted by choppo:

i dont know how they would play as a faction , but it could definitely be something to attack your colony. the wealthier you get the more likely you are to attract 1 or more. perhaps a special mineral/relic that you could mine at the bottom most layers that gives the village some kind of buff as a positive but at the same time attracts a dragon to destroy everything. after you unearth it the dragon would start roaming the land and it could attack other ai colonies around you in search of it, turning them against you......before it finds you.
the dragon could even be tameable aswell, perhaps even rideable. it could even help do forgework or something. other ai colonies could get them and it could start a story event where all the dragons have to duke it out or join forces to stop some cataclysmic event.

I don't like the idea, it makes dragons like a dumb beast where they should be an intelligent species you can reason with (or even trade precious stuff for magic artifacts).

That is a small amount of the ideas I had after reading your suggestion, though many do have the dragons as dumb and destructive beasts. Perhaps once your village reaches a milestone ( excess wealth, tech level ) a dragon could come in and offer a trade deal for rare artifacts/ tech in exchange for gold or rare minerals. A special mission for you to go exploring to find something.

But I want there to be a threat to my colony, what’s the point of building a castle if there’s nothing that could knock it down . If dragons were in the game they could be peaceful and friendly and stay on their lairs surrounded by wealth and artifacts.( something similar to “dragon heart “ or parthonax from Skyrim )You travel to them exchange gifts and knowledge. Or you steal from them and then they come a knocking .

Don’t think dragons could be a playable race, they’d either be some giant , overpowered super being that could destroy everything or small lizard people like the tomek are ?

I’m beginning to ramble, but I really enjoy the game and think too much about what and where the game is heading, can’t wait for the new update.

[Sleipnir]

Those are cool concepts Choppo! Thanks for mentioning them :)

Maybe Jag is thinking of D&D style Dragon Kin which would be around human sized? I have to agree that controlling your traditional massive dragon as a playable race would be tough to make work.

[choppo]

Just looked dragon kin up, it would still be overpowered ( on the fandom wiki it describes them as a large, monstrous humanoid, going by this description a whole colony of these just sounds too OP, what’s to stop the player from steamrolling the map with an army of them??)as a playable faction but i see what jag means.
It could definitely be used as traders, mercenaries or bandits. But they could also be a powerful migrant that could join your village ( I hope that multi species colonies will be a thing at some stage ) , the pros could be its strength for fighting / forging items and magic use for fighting/ making magic items. Negatives could be it needs a lot of meat or it will start eating tamed animals or other colonists or maybe a dependency on arcane dust/ something magic ( like a drug addict ). You’d have to seriously slow or even remove there ability to breed for reasons mentioned above .

Maybe they could be a playable faction as something similar to the ancients ( limited number of dragon kin with large number of thralls doing the peasant work, perhaps followers of a dragon cult …. ) but would need a different/ unique playstyle.

They could have certain milestones ( extremely difficult milestones. ) they need to reach constantly, offerings/ sacrifices to be made which your thralls would demand of you or else. Dragon hunters could show up periodically and be extremely tough to beat. As long as there’s A negative to playing them they could then be op as description suggests.

I’m rambling again :)

[🩸ℜ𝔲𝔦𝔫🩸]

dragons would just be too powerful to be a race. Maybe if you made it so that you play as a single dragon maybe with some sort of workers that would build stuff for you. Maybe you could make the goal as dragons to horde wealth/ items, and defend it from attacks from other races?

[Nikostratos]

I think you can definitely add Dragons as a race, and yes they would be overpower flying flamethrowing giant beasts, just make them extremely hard to have more than one, and adversaries that are able to be a threat. Maybe special adventurers spawn going after the dragon, that would be a really cool tidbit. Also, you could only have your family, and dragon eggs would hard as ♥♥♥♥ to produce. Also, could make them ruling a band of small kobolds/goblins/whatever as their main workforce. Would be like the ancient ones, but upped to eleven. OP dudes that are hard to reproduce and lots of other, weaker beings as workforce.

[Sleipnir]

Originally posted by Nikostratos:

I think you can definitely add Dragons as a race, and yes they would be overpower flying flamethrowing giant beasts, just make them extremely hard to have more than one, and adversaries that are able to be a threat. Maybe special adventurers spawn going after the dragon, that would be a really cool tidbit. Also, you could only have your family, and dragon eggs would hard as ♥♥♥♥ to produce. Also, could make them ruling a band of small kobolds/goblins/whatever as their main workforce. Would be like the ancient ones, but upped to eleven. OP dudes that are hard to reproduce and lots of other, weaker beings as workforce.

Good thinking. This is actually the intention for the final version of the Ancients. Hard to obtain, but pretty powerful.

[WholesomePorridge]

I dont know how it would work; but the premise alone has my vote!

[choppo]

@sleipnir , myself and others above have mentioned dragons ( massive beast hopefully smart and friendly if not angered ) in the game …. Do you intend to put anything like what we’ve mentioned above into the game eventually ? Doesn’t need to be exactly what we’ve described just similar in anyway

[Sleipnir]

I'm a long way off from adding something like them if I do. I'd like to add bigger creatures to the game, for sure. I'm not sure I'll add dragons specifically, but I'll keep them in mind.

[choppo]

Take your time with it sleipnir, we’ll be eagerly awaiting for whatever you decide is right

Originally posted by Nikostratos:

I think you can definitely add Dragons as a race, and yes they would be overpower flying flamethrowing giant beasts, just make them extremely hard to have more than one, and adversaries that are able to be a threat. Maybe special adventurers spawn going after the dragon, that would be a really cool tidbit. Also, you could only have your family, and dragon eggs would hard as ♥♥♥♥ to produce. Also, could make them ruling a band of small kobolds/goblins/whatever as their main workforce. Would be like the ancient ones, but upped to eleven. OP dudes that are hard to reproduce and lots of other, weaker beings as workforce.

They could worship the dragon as a god or deity, instead of goblins it could be a “multi species colony start “ where any believers of any race may join . This could cause other npc factions to make a pilgrimage to your colony or assassins come to take you out.

[Richarad]

When it comes to races, you need to make sure you take playstyle into account. Each race has a different way of playing the game, and adding a dragon race that functions too similarly to the Ancients would be pointless, imo.

Rather, when mod support comes out, and maybe when those big ai creatures are also released (to set the basic structure of something big), I could absolutely see a playable dragon race as a mod.