Regarding the Drug Dealer Simulator & Schedule I situation

[michal.puczynski]

Hey everyone,

We’d like to address the Drug Dealer Simulator / Schedule I situation and its factual reasons, stage, and future.

What’s going on exactly?

Due to repeated opinions that Schedule I is very similar to DDS, we were obliged to request a legal analysis from an intellectual property specialist. It has indicated that there might have been an infringement by the Schedule I developers in relation to Drug Dealer Simulator.

Now we are obliged to follow up further, but we are yet to contact the Schedule I developers. Our goal at this point is discussing the situation with them and we have an open approach.

Is there a lawsuit?

No.

So why is everyone saying there’s a lawsuit?

Probably due to misinterpreting or overinterpreting an information which was originally in Polish.

What’s next?

Like we said, we need to start a conversation. It is not our intention to prevent TVGS from selling or developing their game.

Overall, our goal is to support all devs, but we need to consider our legal obligations if law specialists determine that there are grounds to claim infringement. We even contacted TVGS via email just before the release, when the game was already huge, and wished them all the best - but that was before that legal analysis. Back then no one expected it to be needed, not to mention that it would bring these results.

This is a very serious situation for us. We’re not a big corporation, but a relatively small indie publisher. There are other drug simulators out there with very positive scores and good sales. These are A-OK in regards to DDS according to lawyers.

What we know is we have to be very careful in all proceedings.

What’s the DDS developer’s - Byterunners - role in all this?

Absolutely none, and please don’t bring them into the conversation. They manage the game, not the IP (intellectual property). They don’t make any decisions in this matter.

I hope this clears things out. If you know gamers outraged by this situation who aren’t on this channel, please share this message with them.

Have a good day, and enjoy your favorite, and your second favorite, drug dealing games, whatever the order is for you. :)

Michal from Movie Games

[Oh no, my mayonnaise...]

LMFAO, there is no conversation needed and hopefully your business will go down in flames

[Nevris {Beyond Reproach}]

take a hint, in your own forums people/players are NOT on your side. if everyone is against you, maybe it's you

[Ember]

You ain't obligated to do a damn thing. Simulator games like these are almost becoming a literal dime a dozen. Why not go after all of those too while you're at it

[JLPtheGreat]

Originally posted by michal.puczynski:

Hey everyone,

We’d like to address the Drug Dealer Simulator / Schedule I situation and its factual reasons, stage, and future.

What’s going on exactly?

Due to repeated opinions that Schedule I is very similar to DDS, we were obliged to request a legal analysis from an intellectual property specialist. It has indicated that there might have been an infringement by the Schedule I developers in relation to Drug Dealer Simulator.

Now we are obliged to follow up further, but we are yet to contact the Schedule I developers. Our goal at this point is discussing the situation with them and we have an open approach.

Is there a lawsuit?

No.

So why is everyone saying there’s a lawsuit?

Probably due to misinterpreting or overinterpreting an information which was originally in Polish.

What’s next?

Like we said, we need to start a conversation. It is not our intention to prevent TVGS from selling or developing their game.

Overall, our goal is to support all devs, but we need to consider our legal obligations if law specialists determine that there are grounds to claim infringement. We even contacted TVGS via email just before the release, when the game was already huge, and wished them all the best - but that was before that legal analysis. Back then no one expected it to be needed, not to mention that it would bring these results.

This is a very serious situation for us. We’re not a big corporation, but a relatively small indie publisher. There are other drug simulators out there with very positive scores and good sales. These are A-OK in regards to DDS according to lawyers.

What we know is we have to be very careful in all proceedings.

What’s the DDS developer’s - Byterunners - role in all this?

Absolutely none, and please don’t bring them into the conversation. They manage the game, not the IP (intellectual property). They don’t make any decisions in this matter.

I hope this clears things out. If you know gamers outraged by this situation who aren’t on this channel, please share this message with them.

Have a good day, and enjoy your favorite, and your second favorite, drug dealing games, whatever the order is for you. :)

Michal from Movie Games

Press X for doubt, more corporate BS just like Ubislop but worse LOL

[Ghost1716ad]

Sounds like a ♥♥♥♥ excuse. You're trying to act like you support them but then oh legally you have to check. To people even if 2 games are similar they potentially play both regardless but when devs get butthurt and go after the "devs they support" they can kiss their business goodbye. Congrats you played yourself and wrote the equivalent of a fake sorry video. You're just sorry because people called out your bs.

[Lenartowy]

I was not interested in your games at all, heck I was not even interested in Schedule1.
This single phrase convinced me to buy Schedule 1.
"We even contacted TVGS via email just before the release, when the game was already huge, and wished them all the best - but that was before that legal analysis. "
You have contacted them, congratulated them, wished them luck.
You have seen their success and now your butt is hurt.

Idk, maybe make better games. Maybe then people will buy them. Lots of devs forgets that you are making games for players, not investors. They will not buy or play your games, we will.

[Voitt]

Originally posted by D3st:

Originally posted by michal.puczynski:

Hey everyone,

We’d like to address the Drug Dealer Simulator / Schedule I situation and its factual reasons, stage, and future.

What’s going on exactly?

Due to repeated opinions that Schedule I is very similar to DDS, we were obliged to request a legal analysis from an intellectual property specialist. It has indicated that there might have been an infringement by the Schedule I developers in relation to Drug Dealer Simulator.

Now we are obliged to follow up further, but we are yet to contact the Schedule I developers. Our goal at this point is discussing the situation with them and we have an open approach.

Is there a lawsuit?

No.

So why is everyone saying there’s a lawsuit?

Probably due to misinterpreting or overinterpreting an information which was originally in Polish.

What’s next?

Like we said, we need to start a conversation. It is not our intention to prevent TVGS from selling or developing their game.

Overall, our goal is to support all devs, but we need to consider our legal obligations if law specialists determine that there are grounds to claim infringement. We even contacted TVGS via email just before the release, when the game was already huge, and wished them all the best - but that was before that legal analysis. Back then no one expected it to be needed, not to mention that it would bring these results.

This is a very serious situation for us. We’re not a big corporation, but a relatively small indie publisher. There are other drug simulators out there with very positive scores and good sales. These are A-OK in regards to DDS according to lawyers.

What we know is we have to be very careful in all proceedings.

What’s the DDS developer’s - Byterunners - role in all this?

Absolutely none, and please don’t bring them into the conversation. They manage the game, not the IP (intellectual property). They don’t make any decisions in this matter.

I hope this clears things out. If you know gamers outraged by this situation who aren’t on this channel, please share this message with them.

Have a good day, and enjoy your favorite, and your second favorite, drug dealing games, whatever the order is for you. :)

Michal from Movie Games

You know like me that what you are saying is wrong....There are game on steam who were pre DD1 which use the same concept that you took them from....If you look back at how game are created there a good hundred game who were build inspired by other games.I will give you this tho..you should be mad that a single guys made something 100% better then your 2 game with less ressources,less time and everything who were supposed to be in the game is in the game....

About your publisher,we could do the same and bring back some video of the past that you created for dd1 which showed some stuff we never had ingame.Lot of game loops were supposed to be in DD1 and you never finished it.Also,in the case your publisher go ahead and sue him over what ever reason you think its right to do...You are going to turn the whole community against you...Btw you realize that your game are promoting drug selling and crafting and you wanna sue someone in court...Your game and shedule 1 might get noticed by autority after or news and who know what going to happen after that.....A game promoting drug production and selling and crime in general available on STEAM platform.Wouldn't be a nice newspaper or TV news title?


Take your defeat like a man and improve from there....Why bashing people that are better then you?

There are only 2 drug dealing games with a dead drop order system where you have to pay off debts by dropping money on a dead drop before getting to order more drugs/supplies

[Loc4lHorst]

U are digging your own grave here.....disgusting!! Next time make a good Game and stop crying!!

[ContactMushroom]

OR

You could've just NOT investigated into it because there's nothing about your two games that is ripping off. Neither of you own drug dealing as a concept, mechanic, or gameplay loop.

No stolen assets, no stolen code = nothing you can do at all aside from look like the greedy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you are

[jeab]

Originally posted by ContactMushroom:

OR

You could've just NOT investigated into it because there's nothing about your two games that is ripping off. Neither of you own drug dealing as a concept, mechanic, or gameplay loop.

No stolen assets, no stolen code = nothing you can do at all aside from look like the greedy ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ you are

Okay tell me the difference with these 2 mechanics
In drug dealer simulator you take supplies/drugs as loan from cartel and you pay by dropping money to a dead drop later
In schedule 1 you take supplies as a loan and you pay later by dropping money to a dead drop.

[sepsis]

good jobb ya killed the game in one move lol idiots

[RexVladimir]

No one launches an investigation without the intent to sue. You have to pay a law expert to investigate the games for you. If you are willing to pay to have someone try and find a reason to sue, you are wanting to sue just don't know if you have the legal rights to win. You are simply just making excuses. Also the game devs are totally involved with this unless they want to come out publicly and state that they do not support this decision. Otherwise they are supporting your actions through silence. Boycott the game and the devs. These actions are not good for the industry and only further individual profits while snuffing out creativity. The games are clearly different to anyone with a brain.

[Nox Re'gall]

Y'all better enjoy that dough from the lawsuit IF you win, because by the looks of it, it's the last money you're gonna get lmao

[Sin Valmar]

Well, now I just feel bad for the devs... Your their publisher, and you absolutely tanked their games reputation. Thing is, this is the kinda crap we expect in the AAA space... but this i the indie space. a place where art and creativity can still thrive. What your doing is creating a *very* dangerous precedent for other devs and publishers.

[Poe 愛]

so you want to talk ... in other words pressure a single dev ? because his game is much more successful than 2 of yours ... nice going