Acetone - Can I use it as additive ?

[DRAKOSEA]

I knew the 1g Acetone thing which 'We' generally used.

The question is; Does adding 'MORE' Acetone helps with being additive ?

If it does, then we'd get great booster without added toxicity or even lowered toxicity as a result. But that's only 'logically speaking' right?

Moreover, I've seen several people posted about adding more Acetone or even advertised as "2000% more addictive"

I didn't got a chance to test enough. Now even normal weed could make people addicted.

[DRAKOSEA]

It seems to me that Acetone is doing nothing. That's why people just use it for 1g just to mix in the flask

[bUrnIt]

only 1g is needed to make a batch, as it's gonna work. but if it's boosting, then it could be used to make dull "low quality cheap mix" much stronger.


You can experiment like this:

note: you can mix 2 ways: note2: mix only in the most expensiv items (for no loss).
1. standard powder mix (in standard mixer) on top of acetone in liquid-mixers.
2. uncrushed substances (with or without powder too) directly on top of acetone in liquid-mixers.

The second method is less precise, harder to make the same ratios for smaller batches.

But if you do with powder mix (first method): You can put any amount of powder mix, that powder-mix has already an set ratio.

I wonder if that make the second method more forgiving for combining stacks.
and if it's not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the final product.

To verify if acetone does anything:
imagine 1g acetone for any mix.
If you make a batch with less subtance (half full mixer for example) but same ratio : after drying it will not combine with the "full" batch.
1g acet gave 1g modification to full batch, but that 1g modification on half batch is 200% more effect from the 1g.

[DRAKOSEA]

Originally posted by bUrnIt:

only 1g is needed to make a batch, as it's gonna work. but if it's boosting, then it could be used to make dull "low quality cheap mix" much stronger.


You can experiment like this:

note: you can mix 2 ways: note2: mix only in the most expensiv items (for no loss).
1. standard powder mix (in standard mixer) on top of acetone in liquid-mixers.
2. uncrushed substances (with or without powder too) directly on top of acetone in liquid-mixers.

The second method is less precise, harder to make the same ratios for smaller batches.

But if you do with powder mix (first method): You can put any amount of powder mix, that powder-mix has already an set ratio.

I wonder if that make the second method more forgiving for combining stacks.
and if it's not ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up the final product.

To verify if acetone does anything:
imagine 1g acetone for any mix.
If you make a batch with less subtance (half full mixer for example) but same ratio : after drying it will not combine with the "full" batch.
1g acet gave 1g modification to full batch, but that 1g modification on half batch is 200% more effect from the 1g.

So let's say I'm using softener(Sugar + BS) for 100g
Should I use 100g acetone?

For result; would the softener become more addictive with better strength and lower toxicity ?

[bUrnIt]

apparantly with the right amount you could reach decimal that get boosted because of rounding to ceiling. at least this.
Maybe not 100g acetone but hey if it's works XD (oh but it is actually a good number)
I'm thinking about boosting premixes that lacks strength yes. just standard filler, but yes a low toxicity cheap filler is the best.
But also for OD deaths it a different way.

but to precise the 1g full & half-full:
1g+ 399g = 0.0025% acetone
1g+199 = 0.0050% acetone

(if you want to stack: you would need 2gAcetone for 398g and 1g for 199 = true same ratios)

To really see a change better amplify the acetone for sure!
And then let's see if it is cheaper than the alternative. just by evaporating, it's going to cost quite some money there.
So yeah long experiment for maybe not so much gain after all. just nice to know and experiment.

That's not including weed (weed has best stats for one thing I'm looking for)
And it's a way to boost your weed, I need to try this. (careful wet harvested weed looses water on drying, and I'm not sure if drying the weed first is better or even possible(I mean dried marijuana), that's why I don't mention more, i have no clue yet since different weed yield different amounts after drying. I gonna experiment, I think dried marijuana can't go in the flasks i have to check.)

[DRAKOSEA]

Originally posted by bUrnIt:

apparantly with the right amount you could reach decimal that get boosted because of rounding to ceiling. at least this.
Maybe not 100g acetone but hey if it's works XD (oh but it is actually a good number)
I'm thinking about boosting premixes that lacks strength yes. just standard filler, but yes a low toxicity cheap filler is the best.
But also for OD deaths it a different way.

but to precise the 1g full & half-full:
1g+ 399g = 0.0025% acetone
1g+199 = 0.0050% acetone

(if you want to stack: you would need 2gAcetone for 398g and 1g for 199 = true same ratios)

To really see a change better amplify the acetone for sure!
And then let's see if it is cheaper than the alternative. just by evaporating, it's going to cost quite some money there.
So yeah long experiment for maybe not so much gain after all. just nice to know and experiment.

That's not including weed (weed has best stats for one thing I'm looking for)
And it's a way to boost your weed, I need to try this. (careful wet harvested weed looses water on drying, and I'm not sure if drying the weed first is better or even possible(I mean dried marijuana), that's why I don't mention more, i have no clue yet since different weed yield different amounts after drying. I gonna experiment, I think dried marijuana can't go in the flasks i have to check.)

You must dried the weed first, otherwise it'll turned into crystal even if you're using dryer. You can return weed as custom dried plant if you put dried weed the last thing in the flask. Of course acetone first and additive then dried weed last. Once dried in dryer, you'd be able to sell custom weed.

[bUrnIt]

From what I have read: if you dry the acetone wet weed using the dryer is it going to become dried marijuana, if dried using the crystallizer it will crystallize and be crush-able into powder.

[DRAKOSEA]

Originally posted by bUrnIt:

From what I have read: if you dry the acetone wet weed using the dryer is it going to become dried marijuana, if dried using the crystallizer it will crystallize and be crush-able into powder.

The "wet weed" will always result in crystal AFTER you mixed in flask then dry. I tried with both only acetone and added sugar, both resulted in crystal.

If you wanted the product to become weed, then you must add dried weed as the last thing into the flask, then dry using dryer.

[bUrnIt]

Nope, this make no sens, I made dried marijuana the way I said. (maybe both work)
I'm telling you, it's has to do with the dryer/crystaliser.

[DRAKOSEA]

Originally posted by bUrnIt:

Nope, this make no sens, I made dried marijuana the way I said. (maybe both work)

Well I tested in game. So maybe you're using different version? I didn't mod anything or using older version or beta of the game.

[bUrnIt]

same, i tested it, and was making mixed weed from wet weed.
First batch SUCCESS got my mixed dried plant/marijuana.
Second batch, I have put everything in crystaliser (by mistake, cuz i'm playing keiji xD, and i have never mixed weed before... so force of habit)
And it turned crystal like I said.

must be both.

[DRAKOSEA]

Originally posted by bUrnIt:

same, i tested it, and was making mixed weed from wet weed.
First batch SUCCESS got my mixed dried plant/marijuana.
Second batch, I have put everything in crystaliser (by mistake, cuz i'm playing keiji xD, and i have never mixed weed before... so force of habit)
And it turned crystal like I said.

must be both.

Did you just test it? I mean the moment I answered you above is when I just finished the testing, so it can't be wrong. Did you accidentally put dried weed instead of wet weed ? I mean if you put only dried weed as the last ingredient, then it'll surely become dried weed. Well I didn't test the wet + dried yet, but I heard this exploit already fixed since 0.7 or something.

[bUrnIt]

i'm so confused.

I have set wet weed 250g skycrappers. like 6-7 bricks next to workstation.
did my experiements boosting the weed (keeping 80% pure). I have 3 bricks left there.
I'm pretty sure I used only the wet weed.

But you are making me doubt anyway :-)

[DRAKOSEA]

Originally posted by bUrnIt:

i'm so confused.

I have set wet weed 250g skycrappers. like 6-8 bricks next to workstation.
did my experiements. I have 3 bricks left there.
I'm pretty sure I used only the wet weed.

But you are making me doubt anyway :-)

That's because I have my first hand experience and the variables are constant, so it can't be wrong in my part.

[ScottishLad]

I haven't ever mixed weed, as it's not worth it in any situation.

I also very loosely recall Huslaa mentioning there is a max cut off point on drug stats for when they no longer do something when mixing or handing to a client or something like that (atleast for toxicity that should be the case). But don't quote me their as i don't fully remember.

Unfortunately for how Acetone specifically works is somewhat a grey area,

Anyway, this is some info on mixing weed and acetone. No idea if it's useful to your situation.

To mix weed you need to soak it, using preferrably a Large Flask or Lab Fluid Trays.
To use them; you must add 1g first everytime to start mixing (note that the Acetone will dry/evaporate once the mix is crystalised/dried; so you'll end up with a 399g total mix per Flask)
After adding 1g Acetone; add the drugs/additives (etc) and Apply Mix. Once that's done, you can either Dry or Crystalise the output. Crystalising will allow you to mill the mix to use for other mixes and all that which we won't get into now.
If you're intending to Sell the mix; dry it so it's concidered Marijuana again. You cannot sell weed in crystal/powder form. Only Dried form is accepted by the game.


Now for your mix, you'll need a lab fluid tray from the pharmacy, a dryer/large dryer and any milling equipment (mortar/electric coffee miller which is best)


1- Mill 20g Viagra in a mortar/electric coffee miller
2- Add 1g Acetone to a Flask/Lab fluid tray
3- Add 80g Weed
4- Add the 20g viagra you milled earlier (will be ~19.8g or so if milled with processing loss)
5- Apply Mix
6- Add that mix to a dryer/large dryer
7- Dry the mix
8- Package the mix/store it in a container
9- You're done; you can start selling the mix
(Note: You can crystalise the mix instead of drying it, and then mill the result from crystaliser to use it in another mix if you'd like to, depends on your drug cut; there's many better fillers/premixes though)

[bUrnIt]

Re testing it, I must have use already dried marijuana while impatient to wait for the the wet harvest.. and forgot about it, so my first attempt with wet weed was botched using the crystalizer by accidents.. not the second, and my 3rd mix (2nd with wet weed) did came up crystal from the dryers. as you said.

You must dried the weed first, otherwise it'll turned into crystal even if you're using dryer. You can return weed as custom dried plant if you put dried weed the last thing in the flask. Of course acetone first and additive then dried weed last. Once dried in dryer, you'd be able to sell custom weed.

But then what you say makes no sens to me and kinda strange.
Since using dried marijuana works fine like mixing meth. (just need to avoid the crystalizer to keep buds form).

Anyway, My whole point was to learn and I was going to only use dried marijuna.because of the messed up loss of water from the wet weed+additive.
Just wanted to try see the mechanics and got even more confused, I regret. but now I know for sure:
DO NOT MIX WET WEED at all. not even to save a step(additive loss)
If want to mix weed, as base product or as an additive, use dried marijuana/plant.

I remade a dried weed mix fine using dried marijuna FIRST(on top of acetone)