Do you really need drug mixes?

[pes502]

Hello,

as first - this game is awesome and very addictive (for me :D) but I got one question. Do we really need own drug mixes? I mean ... I mixed some versions (Superman - heroin for example) for new clients to addict them fast, but at the and do I really need to produce these mixes? It costs a lots of time and you can sell pure versions of the drugs to your dealers or to already addicted clients and it's waaay faster than have 3 types of heroin and then distribute it (you need to remember which version you can sell to who - you can't sell strong drugs to addicted clients - overdose etc.). Also the quality is 100% then and managing is simple and fast.

I am only doin 75% cocaine + 25% sugar mix for gang delivery (because you can easily cut 100g of cocaine as a profit).

What do you think? And are you doing your own mixes?

[Long Dong Hughen Shlong]

The only mix i sell is blue amp because it never kills anyone, theres no worries about killing a client from giving them too much.
as far as I know I got to the end game where you sell for the cartel without even trying another mix.
you can do the other mixes for extra cash, but cash has never been an issue for me so I never saw a reason to use the other mixes.

[pes502]

Originally posted by Long Dong Hughen Shlong:

The only mix i sell is blue amp because it never kills anyone, theres no worries about killing a client from giving them too much.
as far as I know I got to the end game where you sell for the cartel without even trying another mix.
you can do the other mixes for extra cash, but cash has never been an issue for me so I never saw a reason to use the other mixes.

Yes, that exactly what I mean. I am selling BlueAmp too (when I am bored and have nothing to do), but almost all my sells are the default drugs which you can get from Eddie. I never had cash issue too, so there is no point to make tons of mixes just for few more hundreds/thousands.

[Tanyon]

I do not think it is needed but I think it is just fun to do. I honestly think they should reduce it from 76% purity to like 70% or 72% to make it more viable to do. I think it would add more versatility to the game.

[[PBS] jamstam]

As a player who plays on the hardest difficulty, plata o plomo as i've been through the other two irl. Non mixed drugs can kill just like in real life (when given to an average civillian especially if he's a drug addict).
In my 60ish hour gameplay i've had 5 OD's most notably and firstly from (pure) methamphetamine, after that pure heroin and cocaine too, so i find it necessary to mix it with other substances.
I myself use ibuprofen as i have real life experience in this topics too so i know it would be most usefull, not useless, not too dangerous etc.
If you play on help me mommy thats on you, you're probabbly playing the wrong game, and if you're playing on pass the bong you're playing to chill and too much realism would disturb you.
Just my humble and honest opinion on this matter which is done fairly well in this game in the state its meant to be played.
edit: i've just remembered i even had speed overdose, so out of 5 ODs 2 were from crystal 1 amphetamine 1 coke and 1 heroin

[pes502]

I am playin on medium difficulty and I haven't got single ODs in my 20 hours play. But if hard mode does this OD's and you need to mix "softer" versions of the drugs, then I understand why this option is here and maybe on hard mode it's neccesary.

Thank you for that info

[Crimson Chris]

I’m playing on pass the bong since update and my crystal meth had two od’s even cutting with 20% baking soda to soften it so I think the clients tollerance is set random so sometimes you get od’s and sometimes you don’t

[5AM]

Originally posted by PBSr vonClausewitz:

As a player who plays on the hardest difficulty, plata o plomo as i've been through the other two irl. Non mixed drugs can kill just like in real life (when given to an average civillian especially if he's a drug addict).
In my 60ish hour gameplay i've had 5 OD's most notably and firstly from (pure) methamphetamine, after that pure heroin and cocaine too, so i find it necessary to mix it with other substances.
I myself use ibuprofen as i have real life experience in this topics too so i know it would be most usefull, not useless, not too dangerous etc.
If you play on help me mommy thats on you, you're probabbly playing the wrong game, and if you're playing on pass the bong you're playing to chill and too much realism would disturb you.
Just my humble and honest opinion on this matter which is done fairly well in this game in the state its meant to be played.
edit: i've just remembered i even had speed overdose, so out of 5 ODs 2 were from crystal 1 amphetamine 1 coke and 1 heroin

I agree i play on the hardest as well because i find it very rewarding but DO NOT give clients prue , heroin coke or meth or even amp because they will die after awhile, i like to cut between 80%-75% any higher iv had OD's sometimes a rare OD on those levels

[Warbeast]

on hard difficulty meth, heroin and maybe cocaine kill A LOT at 100% purity. i am level 40 something rn and had 0 overdoses (started new save with update, they possibly decreased them). Before the update, i tried selling pure meth until i could fix it and it even killed clients on their first order. 30-40% death rate.

[The Mad Cracker]

77% of any drug and cut with baking soda only and youll never experience an OD. Since I talk with another dude on the forums, I started using that for my hard drugs, and it works like a charm for your addicts, not the most addictive, but you'll still get them. But you'll never have an issue with quality or overdoses due to the lower toxicity of the baking soda. 77/23 works for me, I recommend you try it for your addicts if you have issues with ODs. I have way different recipes for my addictive ♥♥♥♥ tho, but 77% is what has worked for me.

[☠ Killionaire ☠]

Originally posted by The Mad Cracker:

77% of any drug and cut with baking soda only and youll never experience an OD. Since I talk with another dude on the forums, I started using that for my hard drugs, and it works like a charm for your addicts, not the most addictive, but you'll still get them. But you'll never have an issue with quality or overdoses due to the lower toxicity of the baking soda. 77/23 works for me, I recommend you try it for your addicts if you have issues with ODs. I have way different recipes for my addictive ♥♥♥♥ tho, but 77% is what has worked for me.

is 77% purity working in sector B too ? I gave some clients in sector B 75% crystal meth and they didnt like it , so I started giving them pure .... shall I cut 77% mix instead ?

[The Mad Cracker]

Originally posted by DonkCall:

Originally posted by The Mad Cracker:

77% of any drug and cut with baking soda only and youll never experience an OD. Since I talk with another dude on the forums, I started using that for my hard drugs, and it works like a charm for your addicts, not the most addictive, but you'll still get them. But you'll never have an issue with quality or overdoses due to the lower toxicity of the baking soda. 77/23 works for me, I recommend you try it for your addicts if you have issues with ODs. I have way different recipes for my addictive ♥♥♥♥ tho, but 77% is what has worked for me.

is 77% purity working in sector B too ? I gave some clients in sector B 75% crystal meth and they didnt like it , so I started giving them pure .... shall I cut 77% mix instead ?

77% works perfect in Sector B, Sector C strangely is the one with the lowest purity standards. I haven't tried anything drastic, but have noticed their quality expectations are the lowest, and you may be able to skirt under 75% maybe 70%. I'm unsure as of this moment tho for Sec C, but B it works great.

[[PBS] jamstam]

Originally posted by 5am:

Originally posted by PBSr vonClausewitz:

As a player who plays on the hardest difficulty, plata o plomo as i've been through the other two irl. Non mixed drugs can kill just like in real life (when given to an average civillian especially if he's a drug addict).
In my 60ish hour gameplay i've had 5 OD's most notably and firstly from (pure) methamphetamine, after that pure heroin and cocaine too, so i find it necessary to mix it with other substances.
I myself use ibuprofen as i have real life experience in this topics too so i know it would be most usefull, not useless, not too dangerous etc.
If you play on help me mommy thats on you, you're probabbly playing the wrong game, and if you're playing on pass the bong you're playing to chill and too much realism would disturb you.
Just my humble and honest opinion on this matter which is done fairly well in this game in the state its meant to be played.
edit: i've just remembered i even had speed overdose, so out of 5 ODs 2 were from crystal 1 amphetamine 1 coke and 1 heroin

I agree i play on the hardest as well because i find it very rewarding but DO NOT give clients prue , heroin coke or meth or even amp because they will die after awhile, i like to cut between 80%-75% any higher iv had OD's sometimes a rare OD on those levels

i find the perfect cut 75% drug other 25% ibuprofen, but when (re)mixing it with other (already) mixed substances i sometimes get complaints the drug aint good enough so might need to work on my mixes as i aint sure how the math works on that scale.
just yesterday night i had an od from an already cut cocaine on that scale, i might have cut it less. it was my sixth od. became neighbourhood death doctor lol good thing with a few sales you can boost that rep up back to the way it was.
and yeah plata o plomo is the way to play and the way meant to be played as its most realistical and the best difficulty imo

[PandaPegger]

20% sugar 80% coke make it more addictive and lowers ODs so i do that and cut heroin a little to lower ODS as well

[mothermatriarch]

Originally posted by PBSr vonClausewitz:

Originally posted by 5am:

I agree i play on the hardest as well because i find it very rewarding but DO NOT give clients prue , heroin coke or meth or even amp because they will die after awhile, i like to cut between 80%-75% any higher iv had OD's sometimes a rare OD on those levels

i find the perfect cut 75% drug other 25% ibuprofen, but when (re)mixing it with other (already) mixed substances i sometimes get complaints the drug aint good enough so might need to work on my mixes as i aint sure how the math works on that scale.
just yesterday night i had an od from an already cut cocaine on that scale, i might have cut it less. it was my sixth od. became neighbourhood death doctor lol good thing with a few sales you can boost that rep up back to the way it was.
and yeah plata o plomo is the way to play and the way meant to be played as its most realistical and the best difficulty imo

when it comes to the complaints, make sure you're checking the expected quality bar for each client. with an almost full bar, you'll wanna keep the purity at about 78%, but when it comes to the clients with really low quality expectation, they will accept potency as low as, I believe, 66%. but 76%-78% is the safe zone in my experience

[[PBS] jamstam]

Originally posted by mothermatriarch:

Originally posted by PBSr vonClausewitz:

i find the perfect cut 75% drug other 25% ibuprofen, but when (re)mixing it with other (already) mixed substances i sometimes get complaints the drug aint good enough so might need to work on my mixes as i aint sure how the math works on that scale.
just yesterday night i had an od from an already cut cocaine on that scale, i might have cut it less. it was my sixth od. became neighbourhood death doctor lol good thing with a few sales you can boost that rep up back to the way it was.
and yeah plata o plomo is the way to play and the way meant to be played as its most realistical and the best difficulty imo

when it comes to the complaints, make sure you're checking the expected quality bar for each client. with an almost full bar, you'll wanna keep the purity at about 78%, but when it comes to the clients with really low quality expectation, they will accept potency as low as, I believe, 66%. but 76%-78% is the safe zone in my experience

i never check that, i'm always in a rush :D that must be my mistake