Bayonet Shot?

[Zeerin Star]

So maybe I'm stupid. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. But I started playing this game again within the last couple days after not playing for a few years. And I immediately gravitated back towards bayonets. A weapon that I remembered being good for getting the fast dash, as well as having a low ichor cost ranged attack. But having now used two "different" bayonets, the Lost Bayonet and the Bayonet Devour, I've noticed that my shot never seems to work properly. It will either shoot straight but stop just before hitting the enemy (which I figure is just an out of range effect) or shoot into the air for no reason. It's the shooting into the air that is the main issue because it can happen even when I'm right in front of, and locked onto, an enemy. I can't figure out what the issue is, so I'm hoping maybe someone here will no what's up.

tl;dr Has the bayonet shot always had a 50/50 chance of shooting into the air for no apparent reason, or am I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up somehow?

Edit 1: So I recorded a couple videos with a mod that prevented ichor drain from bayonet shots to properly show what I was talking about in this post. I downloaded the mod *specifically* for these videos, so the mod wasn't the issue with the shots. The first video is only the Bayonet Devour because that was the one I was using mostly. The second video has both the Sunset Bayonet and the Lost Bayonet. Surprisingly, the Sunset Bayonet appeared to shoot properly with no issues. It was just the Lost Bayonet and the Bayonet Devour that were shooting weirdly. I'll edit the post again once I have the videos uploaded to youtube.

Edit 2: And here's the videos.
https://youtu.be/uI4Jtk8c9n8
https://youtu.be/ge7pA6XLDWI

[k-ricks]

there are 3-4 type of it and low tier Bayonet suck something like that i rather use saber for fast dash than Bayonet or magic build with cheat regen where it can use Bayonet

[EchoSON]

Originally posted by Zeerin Star:

So maybe I'm stupid. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. But I started playing this game again within the last couple days after not playing for a few years. And I immediately gravitated back towards bayonets. A weapon that I remembered being good for getting the fast dash, as well as having a low ichor cost ranged attack. But having now used two "different" bayonets, the Lost Bayonet and the Bayonet Devour, I've noticed that my shot never seems to work properly. It will either shoot straight but stop just before hitting the enemy (which I figure is just an out of range effect) or shoot into the air for no reason. It's the shooting into the air that is the main issue because it can happen even when I'm right in front of, and locked onto, an enemy. I can't figure out what the issue is, so I'm hoping maybe someone here will no what's up.

tl;dr Has the bayonet shot always had a 50/50 chance of shooting into the air for no apparent reason, or am I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up somehow?

You are ******- whatever you said' - Some how
They guns don't just shoot into the air / miss / go through the target / etc - for no reason

[Zeerin Star]

Originally posted by EchoSON:

Originally posted by Zeerin Star:

So maybe I'm stupid. It certainly wouldn't be the first time. But I started playing this game again within the last couple days after not playing for a few years. And I immediately gravitated back towards bayonets. A weapon that I remembered being good for getting the fast dash, as well as having a low ichor cost ranged attack. But having now used two "different" bayonets, the Lost Bayonet and the Bayonet Devour, I've noticed that my shot never seems to work properly. It will either shoot straight but stop just before hitting the enemy (which I figure is just an out of range effect) or shoot into the air for no reason. It's the shooting into the air that is the main issue because it can happen even when I'm right in front of, and locked onto, an enemy. I can't figure out what the issue is, so I'm hoping maybe someone here will no what's up.

tl;dr Has the bayonet shot always had a 50/50 chance of shooting into the air for no apparent reason, or am I ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ up somehow?

You are ******- whatever you said' - Some how
They guns don't just shoot into the air / miss / go through the target / etc - for no reason

Well they are. Would you like me to record some video of it for you? Or would you like to continue not adding anything to the conversation?

[@R+5]

op, maybe you should record a clip.

i havent played for a while, but i dont remember that behavior. i only remember bayonets could be faster or slower depending in which type is used, but not the "accidental shot in the air" you described.

could it be maybe a issue from a specific combo you are trying? maybe something else?

[Zeerin Star]

Originally posted by @R+5:

op, maybe you should record a clip.

i havent played for a while, but i dont remember that behavior. i only remember bayonets could be faster or slower depending in which type is used, but not the "accidental shot in the air" you described.

could it be maybe a issue from a specific combo you are trying? maybe something else?

Yeah, there should be a couple videos in the op now showing off three of the bayonets and the weird shots happening. I've now gotten further into the game (Cathedral), and out of the 6 bayonets I've gotten and tried now, I've discovered that it's only the Lost Bayonet and the Bayonet Devour (and presumably the untransformed version of that weapon) that are doing the wonky shot.

[M200Chan]

Sorry, OP, but I've never seen this before. It might be an issue with that specific bayonet type like you guessed? I don't really use them, but I remember using a bayonet once and not having this issue.

I'm actually in game right now, so I'll see if I have a Lost Bayonet in storage (I have a problem with hoarding weapons) and attempt to replicate.

Edit 1: The bayonet I used to use was the Queenslayer Bayonet.

Edit 2: Unable to replicate with Bayonet Devour. Where exactly were you? I don't recall the Depths of the top of my head. I'll try to reproduce it there.

[Zeerin Star]

Originally posted by M200Chan:

Sorry, OP, but I've never seen this before. It might be an issue with that specific bayonet type like you guessed? I don't really use them, but I remember using a bayonet once and not having this issue.

I'm actually in game right now, so I'll see if I have a Lost Bayonet in storage (I have a problem with hoarding weapons) and attempt to replicate.

Edit 1: The bayonet I used to use was the Queenslayer Bayonet.

Edit 2: Unable to replicate with Bayonet Devour. Where exactly were you? I don't recall the Depths of the top of my head. I'll try to reproduce it there.

I think I just went to the first depths. Maybe the second? Honestly, I've decided to just put it down as one of those weird bugs that sometimes happens. Since it doesn't affect the good bayonets, I've stopped worrying about it.

[M200Chan]

Originally posted by Zeerin Star:

I think I just went to the first depths. Maybe the second? Honestly, I've decided to just put it down as one of those weird bugs that sometimes happens. Since it doesn't affect the good bayonets, I've stopped worrying about it.

Yeah, fair enough. Hope the rest of your game goes well!

[Zeerin Star]

Originally posted by M200Chan:

Originally posted by Zeerin Star:

I think I just went to the first depths. Maybe the second? Honestly, I've decided to just put it down as one of those weird bugs that sometimes happens. Since it doesn't affect the good bayonets, I've stopped worrying about it.

Yeah, fair enough. Hope the rest of your game goes well!

Oh it mostly did. The dlc is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ though. lmao

[M200Chan]

Originally posted by Zeerin Star:

Originally posted by M200Chan:

Yeah, fair enough. Hope the rest of your game goes well!

Oh it mostly did. The dlc is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ though. lmao

I enjoy fighting Hellfire Knight. The others, not so much.

Let me know if you need a hand with the challenges on there. I enjoy beating up giant monsters with a pipe.

[Zeerin Star]

Originally posted by M200Chan:

Originally posted by Zeerin Star:

Oh it mostly did. The dlc is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ though. lmao

I enjoy fighting Hellfire Knight. The others, not so much.

Let me know if you need a hand with the challenges on there. I enjoy beating up giant monsters with a pipe.

I thought you couldn't do multiplayer for the dlc bosses? Did that get changed at some point?

[M200Chan]

Originally posted by Zeerin Star:

Originally posted by M200Chan:

I enjoy fighting Hellfire Knight. The others, not so much.

Let me know if you need a hand with the challenges on there. I enjoy beating up giant monsters with a pipe.

I thought you couldn't do multiplayer for the dlc bosses? Did that get changed at some point?

You have to also have the DLC, and I think have cleared the area to matchmake? I've helped a friend get Alpha and Omega before

[Xengre]

Originally posted by M200Chan:

Originally posted by Zeerin Star:

Oh it mostly did. The dlc is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ though. lmao

I enjoy fighting Hellfire Knight. The others, not so much.

Let me know if you need a hand with the challenges on there. I enjoy beating up giant monsters with a pipe.

Agreed, the Hellfire boss was my favorite in the entire game. Thunder was okay aside from a specific bug and also flawed design move (both same move, the one where it runs around the edge of arena and lightning flies everywhere). Frozen Empress just looks cool/flashy but is too basic and easy.

OP, yes, coop works in DLC, at least for the last several years. Not sure about when it first came out, though.

As for the issue in the main thread topic... no idea since I never use Bayonet.

[angelsenvy228]

That's pretty weird for sure. I have never messed with the trash tier bayonets I mainly use Libertador and otherwise have used Brodigea and Rubellite piercer. I did have something happen in cathedral the other day where my shot just went out to the left instead of at the enemy even though i was locked on and facing the enemy. It's only happened maybe twice in 100hrs of playing that I recall and I don't know if it's positional related to where I was on that map or what. What framerate do you use I leave it at 144 unless i have to use an elevator then i change it to 60 so the elevator doesnt stall out. I wonder if its related to/aggravated by high frame rate possibly, some things in this game don't quite play nice with high FR like the elevator bug

[Zeerin Star]

Originally posted by angelsenvy228:

That's pretty weird for sure. I have never messed with the trash tier bayonets I mainly use Libertador and otherwise have used Brodigea and Rubellite piercer. I did have something happen in cathedral the other day where my shot just went out to the left instead of at the enemy even though i was locked on and facing the enemy. It's only happened maybe twice in 100hrs of playing that I recall and I don't know if it's positional related to where I was on that map or what. What framerate do you use I leave it at 144 unless i have to use an elevator then i change it to 60 so the elevator doesnt stall out. I wonder if its related to/aggravated by high frame rate possibly, some things in this game don't quite play nice with high FR like the elevator bug

The only reason I was using the trash bayonets is because I was early on and didn't have any better ones. The moment I got Brodeia and, later, Libertador they became my go to bayonets lol. The frame rate thing is an interesting thought that I never considered, but I don't think it's frame rate related. I'm pretty sure I have my game set to constant 60