Denuvo locks me out after trying steam proton.

[krosis]

https://support.codefusion.technology/cv_ka564i3l/?e=88500006&l=english

I literally cannot open the game now!
Thank you Denuvo! **** you!

For anyone trying out this on steam play, don't change proton versions too much as for some reason it will lock you out after a certain amount of tries.

Will update after 24 hours if it opens.

[nwad]

This would be a very good reason for them to remove denuvo from the game.

[krosis]

Specifically 5 times, every environment change consumes 1 attempt of verification. so the 6th time you change the environment, or in this case steam proton versions; You'll need to wait 24 hours for it to reset.

Pretty ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that it works it like that, If you are troubleshooting which proton version to use, good luck trying to fix the game.

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by nwad:

This would be a very good reason for them to remove denuvo from the game.

They won't. They'll keep it for however long they planned (maybe indefinitely) because that's what they've already set their mind to. They don't care about edge cases like OP.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by nwad:

This would be a very good reason for them to remove denuvo from the game.

They wont. Not for something like this. As OP said, it takes 5 occurrences in a single 24 hour period and then only locks you out for 24 hours. This is nearly impossible to occur even on Proton and far more so on Windows, the primary platform for these games. Its to avoid piracy/illegal sharing of games.

[nwad]

I'm pretty sure denuvo charges a license fee. Bamco is paying them despite their game being readily available on pirate sites. Waste of money, and the only people negatively impacted are paying customers. DRM is stupid and pointless.

[lukaself]

Moving from the desktop and to the Steam Deck also counts as TWO activations (hardware change+OS change), which makes it a recurrent issue that's harder to just ignore: there has been an influx of codefusion reports due to this on all games using Denuvo since the release of the Deck.

https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/search/?q=codefusion&sort=time

Being repeatedly locked for 24 hours for simply trying to play the game you paid for isn't a minor issue by any stretch of the definition and yet some would try to downplay the severity for some reason.

[krosis]

Geez that's a lot of reports. This is not even a "minor" issue anymore. I don't know why people are acting like this is not a big deal. I paid for a game, I should be able to use it however I want.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by D4L3scorch:

Geez that's a lot of reports. This is not even a "minor" issue anymore. I don't know why people are acting like this is not a big deal. I paid for a game, I should be able to use it however I want.

First, Proton means Linux as you obviously know. This game is built for Windows, not Linux which has a current 2.93% global (not even gamer, but global total) market share. Proton isn't intended to be supported. If you can run your game on it great. If it runs with occasional hiccups lucky you it runs with minor inconvenience. If it does not run whatsoever the dev does not care because its not even supported. This is the unfortunate curse of Linux, granted Valve is making an effort to actually improve this (with questionable success).

Second, that user is well aware many of those errors (of which there are only a mere 142 pages of reports using that search term in the past 9 years (not that many) are majority not even related to Denuvo. They're actually other issues resulting in the crash which causes it to throw a generic flag that isn't even related to Denuvo such as

Exhibit A: Numerous linked threads of unrelated causes of the error and them being resolved such as utility software from MSI, etc.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1196590/discussions/0/3146305075705525189/#c3758851410774321527

To other issues involving drivers, Microsoft Visual updates, etc.

Your case is rare because most people aren't going ot be making so many changes even on Proton in such a short period, or swapping back and forth between two different family shared PCs enough times in 24 hours, or BlueScreen on Windows so many times so critically it causes this issue (though if it does you got bigger problems), etc. These are also all user end issues, clearly, and not something that really necessitates Denuvo or the developer resolving and, fortunately, its only a 24 hour lockout and extremely uncommon (it should be or you got major issues on your end, not the game's end).

This is why its not a big deal. They're intentionally, as usual, taking it out of context even though they're aware from prior discussions with quite a few people those aren't denuvo related results for most of them.

[JD777]

How fing dare you want to play a game you bought ! Our first responsibility as consumers who exchange our sweat in the form of currency is to protect their profits. So what you can't play the game for 24 hours! Read the damn EULA. Spend some of that free time off from work to actually learn it instead of relaxing and wasting your time trying to play a game. Never mind that in 10 years the authentication servers Might not exist anymore. Most people don't care so stop complaining.

This works so well they should start subscription services for your appliances...oh wait. Built to last haha ... Boomer logic alert. I only think in the here and now and I know how to stay in my lane .

[Xengre]

Originally posted by JD777:

How fing dare you want to play a game you bought ! Our first responsibility as consumers who exchange our sweat in the form of currency is to protect their profits. So what you can't play the game for 24 hours! Read the damn EULA. Spend some of that free time off from work to actually learn it instead of relaxing and wasting your time trying to play a game. Never mind that in 10 years the authentication servers Might not exist anymore. Most people don't care so stop complaining.

This works so well they should start subscription services for your appliances...oh wait. Built to last haha ... Boomer logic alert. I only think in the here and now and I know how to stay in my lane .

Don't ever play any online game like an MMORPG, League of Legends, Overwatch, and so on. You might not handle it well when they have to go on weekly maintenance as you break down unable to find something to do for a few hours or day or two, much less a nearly impossible self inflicted Denuvo incident you might see never, or once every several years for 24 hours.

FYI, the authentication server issue is non-issue due to current Denuvo licensing game. They're temporary licenses, not permanent. You can't use the excuse "what if servers go offline in 10 years from now" anymore.

[JD777]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by JD777:

How fing dare you want to play a game you bought ! Our first responsibility as consumers who exchange our sweat in the form of currency is to protect their profits. So what you can't play the game for 24 hours! Read the damn EULA. Spend some of that free time off from work to actually learn it instead of relaxing and wasting your time trying to play a game. Never mind that in 10 years the authentication servers Might not exist anymore. Most people don't care so stop complaining.

This works so well they should start subscription services for your appliances...oh wait. Built to last haha ... Boomer logic alert. I only think in the here and now and I know how to stay in my lane .

Don't ever play any online game like an MMORPG, League of Legends, Overwatch, and so on. You might not handle it well when they have to go on weekly maintenance as you break down unable to find something to do for a few hours or day or two, much less a nearly impossible self inflicted Denuvo incident you might see never, or once every several years for 24 hours.

I don't play those games exactly because of that. I buy single player story games like this one. This game is not one of those games so why are you comparing the two?

I had this authentication issue happen twice for Mad Max which is a Single player game that requires no internet outside of this crap software lock to play.

When was Mad Max released? 2015. I have yet to see anything about removing this after 10 years. I'm arguing because this should absolutely not be a license to play a Single Player game at full price. I'm well aware the online servers will die but I should still be able to play the Single Player game.

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Xengre linked a post that isn't resolved while saying it was resolved? What? Where are you seeing the resolution at the time of you posting this?

"Exhibit A: Numerous linked threads of unrelated causes of the error and them being resolved such as utility software from MSI, etc.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1196590/discussions/0/3146305075705525189/#c3758851410774321527"

Quote from the linked post :

"Pretty straight foward, I bought the game and downloaded it. Tried to start the game but after roughtly two seconds an info box pops up displaying,"Sorry somethign went wrong, to fix this please go to: https://support.codefusion.technology/rev22_d9o4r7f2/?e=88500006&l=english

When pressing that link, i get this "Currently your game purchase cannot be re-validated successfully, please wait 24 hours and try again."

Really not sure here on what could be the possible fix for this sollution. Tried updating windows, DirectX and installing VideoCodec thing but still cant run the game.. please help me"

[Xengre]

Originally posted by JD777:

Xengre linked a post that isn't resolved while saying it was resolved? What? Where are you seeing

The last post in the thread links to numerous people with the same error for multiple games. I linked that thread because that is how I found it and didn't want to link multiple posts at once when I could use one obvious link in an extremely short thread (one that probably solved their issue as they never responded back with further issue).

That codefusion error can occur for a Denuvo game simply crashing even if its crashed for completely unrelated purposes from Denuvo. The linked thread validates this several times over in multiple game forums.

Originally posted by JD777:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Don't ever play any online game like an MMORPG, League of Legends, Overwatch, and so on. You might not handle it well when they have to go on weekly maintenance as you break down unable to find something to do for a few hours or day or two, much less a nearly impossible self inflicted Denuvo incident you might see never, or once every several years for 24 hours.

I don't play those games exactly because of that. I buy single player story games like this one. This game is not one of those games so why are you comparing the two?

I had this authentication issue happen twice for Mad Max which is a Single player game that requires no internet outside of this crap software lock to play.

Why am I comparing the two? Why are you complaining about something that you, yourself, admit is a personal complaint and not actually related to Denuvo. I pointed out a real world alternate example of basically a same type experience that is several thousands times worse that the rest of the world's population is totally okay with but you are not simply because you don't like that type of brief downtime (for some reason...). This reveals a personal issue that is deeper and, in fact, actually quite unrelated to Denuvo and more with this type of situation no matter the cause even if you might never once encounter it in your life. Take your Mad Max example, the only case you've personally likely ever seen since Denuvo has released considering its the only one you mentioned (human behavior, would have mentioned far more if a real issue in your experience). I mean, Mad Max and a few other Warner Bros games were down like 1-2x for a few hours out of the 7 years its been out. If you can't find something to do for the mere 8 hours out of 61320 hours the game has been out I'm sorry but I really have no pitty.

I'm not going to get into another ridiculously long thread over this topic, either. I've made my point.

[JD777]

"Why am I comparing the two? Why are you complaining about something that you, yourself, admit is a personal complaint and not actually related to Denuvo."

- When and where did I say that.

My complaint is 100% Denuvo and DRM like Denuvo. Especially for single player games that require no server upkeep. Where did you get that I admitted anything close to that? Yeah it's personal that because of Denuvo I have been locked out of games I purchased and is 1000% because of Denuvo.

Anyways I got to get some sleep so this is why I wont be responding anymore in here not because of anything else that someone might say.

[krosis]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by D4L3scorch:

Geez that's a lot of reports. This is not even a "minor" issue anymore. I don't know why people are acting like this is not a big deal. I paid for a game, I should be able to use it however I want.

First, Proton means Linux as you obviously know. This game is built for Windows, not Linux which has a current 2.93% global (not even gamer, but global total) market share. Proton isn't intended to be supported. If you can run your game on it great. If it runs with occasional hiccups lucky you it runs with minor inconvenience. If it does not run whatsoever the dev does not care because its not even supported. This is the unfortunate curse of Linux, granted Valve is making an effort to actually improve this (with questionable success).

Second, that user is well aware many of those errors (of which there are only a mere 142 pages of reports using that search term in the past 9 years (not that many) are majority not even related to Denuvo. They're actually other issues resulting in the crash which causes it to throw a generic flag that isn't even related to Denuvo such as

Exhibit A: Numerous linked threads of unrelated causes of the error and them being resolved such as utility software from MSI, etc.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1196590/discussions/0/3146305075705525189/#c3758851410774321527

To other issues involving drivers, Microsoft Visual updates, etc.

Your case is rare because most people aren't going ot be making so many changes even on Proton in such a short period, or swapping back and forth between two different family shared PCs enough times in 24 hours, or BlueScreen on Windows so many times so critically it causes this issue (though if it does you got bigger problems), etc. These are also all user end issues, clearly, and not something that really necessitates Denuvo or the developer resolving and, fortunately, its only a 24 hour lockout and extremely uncommon (it should be or you got major issues on your end, not the game's end).

This is why its not a big deal. They're intentionally, as usual, taking it out of context even though they're aware from prior discussions with quite a few people those aren't denuvo related results for most of them.

Wow someone actually defending the DRMS.

I bought the game, I own it. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stuff like it locking me out is no good. And I don't want that. And then you rant about how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ small the linux market share and linux is not even meant to be supported in the first place. Like I don't know that already.

Most people won't be making changes to proton in such a short period? by what short period are you talking about? every 24 hours? you get 5 attempts every 24 hours after that you get ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Even if you hop in to your windows machine afterwards, you'll not be able to play the game anymore.

This game did not work for me out of the box. So I had to troubleshoot it by trying out different versions of proton, and we have a lot of that. You can even try out GE versions of proton.

I don't like Denuvo because the implementation is ♥♥♥♥. Those 5 attempts are a cancer. It's either they remove that or make an exemption to changing proton versions.

Even better remove Denuvo from this game.

Not just because the case is "rare" does not mean it's not serious.
Don't tell me you don't know that.

And no, I can prob do something in those 24 hours don't tell me to do other ♥♥♥♥ in those 24 hours, I can do that. I don't want Denuvo locking me out of my game for ♥♥♥♥ sake

[Orion Invictus]

Originally posted by D4L3scorch:

Originally posted by Xengre:

First, Proton means Linux as you obviously know. This game is built for Windows, not Linux which has a current 2.93% global (not even gamer, but global total) market share. Proton isn't intended to be supported. If you can run your game on it great. If it runs with occasional hiccups lucky you it runs with minor inconvenience. If it does not run whatsoever the dev does not care because its not even supported. This is the unfortunate curse of Linux, granted Valve is making an effort to actually improve this (with questionable success).

Second, that user is well aware many of those errors (of which there are only a mere 142 pages of reports using that search term in the past 9 years (not that many) are majority not even related to Denuvo. They're actually other issues resulting in the crash which causes it to throw a generic flag that isn't even related to Denuvo such as

Exhibit A: Numerous linked threads of unrelated causes of the error and them being resolved such as utility software from MSI, etc.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1196590/discussions/0/3146305075705525189/#c3758851410774321527

To other issues involving drivers, Microsoft Visual updates, etc.

Your case is rare because most people aren't going ot be making so many changes even on Proton in such a short period, or swapping back and forth between two different family shared PCs enough times in 24 hours, or BlueScreen on Windows so many times so critically it causes this issue (though if it does you got bigger problems), etc. These are also all user end issues, clearly, and not something that really necessitates Denuvo or the developer resolving and, fortunately, its only a 24 hour lockout and extremely uncommon (it should be or you got major issues on your end, not the game's end).

This is why its not a big deal. They're intentionally, as usual, taking it out of context even though they're aware from prior discussions with quite a few people those aren't denuvo related results for most of them.

Wow someone actually defending the DRMS.

I bought the game, I own it. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ stuff like it locking me out is no good. And I don't want that. And then you rant about how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ small the linux market share and linux is not even meant to be supported in the first place. Like I don't know that already.

Most people won't be making changes to proton in such a short period? by what short period are you talking about? every 24 hours? you get 5 attempts every 24 hours after that you get ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Even if you hop in to your windows machine afterwards, you'll not be able to play the game anymore.

This game did not work for me out of the box. So I had to troubleshoot it by trying out different versions of proton, and we have a lot of that. You can even try out GE versions of proton.

I don't like Denuvo because the implementation is ♥♥♥♥. Those 5 attempts are a cancer. It's either they remove that or make an exemption to changing proton versions.

Even better remove Denuvo from this game.

Not just because the case is "rare" does not mean it's not serious.
Don't tell me you don't know that.

And no, I can prob do something in those 24 hours don't tell me to do other ♥♥♥♥ in those 24 hours, I can do that. I don't want Denuvo locking me out of my game for ♥♥♥♥ sake

Agreed. Your case may be an edge case, but the fact remains DRM only affects legitimate consumers, which is the opposite of what you want. It's like making all customers at a supermarket go through a full body cavity search on their way out, while thieves just run out the door. The thieves get the products for free AND they avoid all that nonsense.

I understand why some developers and publishers want DRM, but the current solution isn't good enough, not even close.