Venous Claw and Pre-Order DLC

[K13Cove]

So are these items inaccessible on the Steam version? It seems strange that they're not available at all. Pre-Order DLCs are usually included in Deluxe/Ultimate editions of games.

[Xengre]

They can only be acquired via cheating/modding them in. You aren't missing out on much though, seriously. I wouldn't worry about it.

[FlameGauge]

Really ♥♥♥♥ move of them to make it available everywhere except steam.
Pre order bonuses should be banned. They're such a scummy practice.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by FlameGauge:

Really ♥♥♥♥ move of them to make it available everywhere except steam.
Pre order bonuses should be banned. They're such a scummy practice.

Not really. This is nothing new in the industry. Borderlands and countless other games have pre-order bonuses that are extremely limited edition, like Gamestop purchase only, etc.

It would be a problem if it was an important bonus but it is not. What you're losing out is a mediocre veil (any info online saying its good is wrong even excluding the DLC, and if including DLC its even more so). The Veil is decent early but not even close to one of the best. This isn't some critical loss not having it so I wouldn't worry over it.

[Crystal Sharrd]

IIRC there's one piece of preorder DLC that can be acquired with Bandai Namco Store Reward Points.

[Rambo]

Originally posted by Crystal Sharrd:

IIRC there's one piece of preorder DLC that can be acquired with Bandai Namco Store Reward Points.

How can I get access to this store? Can you help me?

[5chneemensch]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by FlameGauge:

Really ♥♥♥♥ move of them to make it available everywhere except steam.
Pre order bonuses should be banned. They're such a scummy practice.

Not really. This is nothing new in the industry. Borderlands and countless other games have pre-order bonuses that are extremely limited edition, like Gamestop purchase only, etc.

It would be a problem if it was an important bonus but it is not. What you're losing out is a mediocre veil (any info online saying its good is wrong even excluding the DLC, and if including DLC its even more so). The Veil is decent early but not even close to one of the best. This isn't some critical loss not having it so I wouldn't worry over it.

Irrelevant. You get content withheld on a predatory pre-purchase without even knowing if the game is actually good.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by 5chneemensch:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Not really. This is nothing new in the industry. Borderlands and countless other games have pre-order bonuses that are extremely limited edition, like Gamestop purchase only, etc.

It would be a problem if it was an important bonus but it is not. What you're losing out is a mediocre veil (any info online saying its good is wrong even excluding the DLC, and if including DLC its even more so). The Veil is decent early but not even close to one of the best. This isn't some critical loss not having it so I wouldn't worry over it.

Irrelevant. You get content withheld on a predatory pre-purchase without even knowing if the game is actually good.

Irrelevant certainly sums up your comment and behavior here.

Imagine being so pissed in the other thread you got destroyed that you have to follow me to others to make completely, again, irrelevant posts that are misinformation.

As I stated, the pre-purchase is not "predatory". It's a minor variant of many similar items in the game with the biggest loss being the cosmetic element. The stat stuff on it is decent but its far from great and is no loss to those who don't own the pre-order DLC, such as myself (cause you know, unlike your ignorant self I've actually played the game thoroughly and know what I'm talking about regarding these items). Additionally, as I pointed out, this is a regular practice in countless games and has been for over a decade. As long as it isn't some major unfair predatory advantage it is completely non-issue.

Why are you in this forum again? lol

[5chneemensch]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by 5chneemensch:

Irrelevant. You get content withheld on a predatory pre-purchase without even knowing if the game is actually good.

Irrelevant certainly sums up your comment and behavior here.

Imagine being so pissed in the other thread you got destroyed that you have to follow me to others to make completely, again, irrelevant posts that are misinformation.

As I stated, the pre-purchase is not "predatory". It's a minor variant of many similar items in the game with the biggest loss being the cosmetic element. The stat stuff on it is decent but its far from great and is no loss to those who don't own the pre-order DLC, such as myself (cause you know, unlike your ignorant self I've actually played the game thoroughly and know what I'm talking about regarding these items). Additionally, as I pointed out, this is a regular practice in countless games and has been for over a decade. As long as it isn't some major unfair predatory advantage it is completely non-issue.

Why are you in this forum again? lol

Imagine being such a narcissist to think that everythign revolves around you and not your poor argument.

If you, by chance, are trying to troll, you should get a refund. You are not very good at it.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by 5chneemensch:

Originally posted by Xengre:

Irrelevant certainly sums up your comment and behavior here.

Imagine being so pissed in the other thread you got destroyed that you have to follow me to others to make completely, again, irrelevant posts that are misinformation.

As I stated, the pre-purchase is not "predatory". It's a minor variant of many similar items in the game with the biggest loss being the cosmetic element. The stat stuff on it is decent but its far from great and is no loss to those who don't own the pre-order DLC, such as myself (cause you know, unlike your ignorant self I've actually played the game thoroughly and know what I'm talking about regarding these items). Additionally, as I pointed out, this is a regular practice in countless games and has been for over a decade. As long as it isn't some major unfair predatory advantage it is completely non-issue.

Why are you in this forum again? lol

Imagine being such a narcissist to think that everythign revolves around you and not your poor argument.

If you, by chance, are trying to troll, you should get a refund. You are not very good at it.

Literally, you have a gift of never making a valid post. It's a genuine skill you've truly nailed with 100% (nothing less) perfection. You've never once made a valid post and it is rather amusing though old at this point.

You couldn't even counter the point I made. I provided actual information about the DLC, itself, as well as industry practice and whether that DLC actually is a loss to players who don't get it. Instead of refuting that you try to side step my entire post, like usual, and attack me. Then again, one has to wonder why you are in a forum for a game you don't own and a thread pertaining to content you literally know nothing whatsoever about as you try to tell others about its value with your ignorant posts.

I wont even bother with the logical fails of your final paragraph. Alas, I'm sure you will post again with another irrelevant post rather than disproving the actual content of the post and whether the DLC is a loss or not to the consumer. :)

[Orbister]

This is the reason i haven't bought the game yet. I did bought Scarlet Nexus and God Eater 3 though, those games have pre order content that can still be acquired.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Orbister:

This is the reason i haven't bought the game yet. I did bought Scarlet Nexus and God Eater 3 though, those games hace pre order content that can still be acquired.

While the pre-order DLC is nothing to worry about missing out on, if you simply love to collect stuff regardless of it being good or bad for the sake of collecting you can still mod it in.

[Orbister]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by Orbister:

This is the reason i haven't bought the game yet. I did bought Scarlet Nexus and God Eater 3 though, those games hace pre order content that can still be acquired.

While the pre-order DLC is nothing to worry about missing out on, if you simply love to collect stuff regardless of it being good or bad for the sake of collecting you can still mod it in.

Thank you for the tip but it's not about the items themselves. It's just a personal policy of mine. I don't like spending money on products that use extorsionary tactics and i do like rewarding other products that do respect me as a costumer. I know one person alone can't really make a change but i do it anyway at least for myself. And the market is so full of amazing games that i don't mind missing some in exchange of holding my princinples.

[FlameGauge]

Originally posted by Orbister:

Originally posted by Xengre:

While the pre-order DLC is nothing to worry about missing out on, if you simply love to collect stuff regardless of it being good or bad for the sake of collecting you can still mod it in.

Thank you for the tip but it's not about the items themselves. It's just a personal policy of mine. I don't like spending money on products that use extorsionary tactics and i do like rewarding other products that do respect me as a costumer. I know one person alone can't really make a change but i do it anyway at least for myself. And the market is so full of amazing games that i don't mind missing some in exchange of holding my princinples.

I would honestly be less annoyed if it was only ever available from preorder. As much as I hate preorder bonuses. it was a thing, it's not available anymore, they shouldn't be a thing that exist in any game at all, but I'd get over it.
But it's the fact that it was later made permanently available to every platform but steam that pisses me off the most about it.

[Xengre]

Originally posted by Orbister:

Originally posted by Xengre:

While the pre-order DLC is nothing to worry about missing out on, if you simply love to collect stuff regardless of it being good or bad for the sake of collecting you can still mod it in.

Thank you for the tip but it's not about the items themselves. It's just a personal policy of mine. I don't like spending money on products that use extorsionary tactics and i do like rewarding other products that do respect me as a costumer. I know one person alone can't really make a change but i do it anyway at least for myself. And the market is so full of amazing games that i don't mind missing some in exchange of holding my princinples.

While I get your principle and agree, I do think there are limits to this to consider.

For instance, would you care if it was a group of 5x potions, 10x Phoenix down, and a free restore materia in a Final Fantasy game which are among the most common trash? The pre-order DLC here is basically in that category, only a bit better. It's basically a mid-tier option for ultra light squishy setups but there are better options and the weight of other better options is normally easily managed (esp if factoring the fact that Shifting Hollow almost entirely invalidates the weight category in the game due to being broken OP).

In this case I truly don't think it should be too much of an issue. I do think its odd, as Flame mentions, that it is oddly limited on Steam and not the others. Seems like a poor oversight from the dev.

[Laurenzepam]

Originally posted by Xengre:

Originally posted by 5chneemensch:

Imagine being such a narcissist to think that everythign revolves around you and not your poor argument.

If you, by chance, are trying to troll, you should get a refund. You are not very good at it.

Literally, you have a gift of never making a valid post. It's a genuine skill you've truly nailed with 100% (nothing less) perfection. You've never once made a valid post and it is rather amusing though old at this point.

You couldn't even counter the point I made. I provided actual information about the DLC, itself, as well as industry practice and whether that DLC actually is a loss to players who don't get it. Instead of refuting that you try to side step my entire post, like usual, and attack me. Then again, one has to wonder why you are in a forum for a game you don't own and a thread pertaining to content you literally know nothing whatsoever about as you try to tell others about its value with your ignorant posts.

I wont even bother with the logical fails of your final paragraph. Alas, I'm sure you will post again with another irrelevant post rather than disproving the actual content of the post and whether the DLC is a loss or not to the consumer. :)

It's not a "gift" haha. You are talking about industrial method and just not realizing they do it by purpose all "gift" are included in the price. You ever see some product in grocery with an "extra-value" package? Pre-order DLC could be a method to attract fans , but it's also become a privilege form their part to "remove game content" in your version if the price are same. What ever if this "content" is important or not, they cross this line.