A few plot questions (Spoilers obv)

[NobakeGaming]

There's a few things that just aren't adding up to me here:

1) Start with the endings I guess. Why does Io die in the bad and normal endings? Like, everything seems totally fine, she's just laying there. Then she turns into a statue for no reason whatsoever.

2) How long is it supposed to have been since the war? Most signs point to a very long time - the look of the environment, Mido's talk about evolution and the horrors gaining power outside the wall, and the talk about killing and replacing Successors as they frenzy. But then there's that human (Dominic?) in the government center who apparently was there when it all happened. Seems like he should have been long dead by now.

3) What's up with the player character? I guess you're also a Successor, what with Io following you around and all. But you never seemed to be implanted with one of those blue relic things. Is it just because the Queen bleeds all over you? If so, why is it suddenly a relic just like the others when it gets extracted at the end?

[Zorlond]

1) Io's task is complete. The Successor no longer needs her. Apparently the people who designed Io set this as a fail-safe to prevent purpose-less robot-people from wandering around. The same thing happens to her 'sisters' after you take out a Successor. Go outside the Crypt to where they were standing and you'll find a gem.

3) Relic of the Blood. Basically, MC gets literally pumped full of the Queen's blue blood, and you get to see it end up all over the floor in the bad end. As to how it happened, it was the final strike the MC did to the Queen, which was using the Blood Veil attack that has a habit of draining blood from the victim to power the user (normally it's changed into Ichor).

[NobakeGaming]

Originally posted by Zorlond:

1) Io's task is complete. The Successor no longer needs her. Apparently the people who designed Io set this as a fail-safe to prevent purpose-less robot-people from wandering around. The same thing happens to her 'sisters' after you take out a Successor. Go outside the Crypt to where they were standing and you'll find a gem.

I got those vestiges, but for some reason it just didn't click that they had died. Explains the bad end, since you die in that one. Not convinced about the normal end though. You don't die, you just take over Silva's role.

Though I guess the Successor's death isn't necessarily the trigger, since even in the good end you get the Eos vestiges. "No longer needed" is just such a vague condition. I can't really work with that.

Might just have to chalk this one up to "video game logic."

Originally posted by Zorlond:

3) Relic of the Blood. Basically, MC gets literally pumped full of the Queen's blue blood, and you get to see it end up all over the floor in the bad end. As to how it happened, it was the final strike the MC did to the Queen, which was using the Blood Veil attack that has a habit of draining blood from the victim to power the user (normally it's changed into Ichor).

That makes more sense than "she just got bled on." Didn't think about the blood veil drain.

[warlok]

Originally posted by NobakeGaming:

Not convinced about the normal end though. You don't die, you just take over Silva's role.

Though I guess the Successor's death isn't necessarily the trigger, since even in the good end you get the Eos vestiges. "No longer needed" is just such a vague condition. I can't really work with that.

Might just have to chalk this one up to "video game logic."

She doesn't die in normal ending. In bad end you could see her disappear, just like the rest of revenants do, when they are killed, but in normal end she's still there.

[NobakeGaming]

Originally posted by warlok:

She doesn't die in normal ending. In bad end you could see her disappear, just like the rest of revenants do, when they are killed, but in normal end she's still there.

Still there, but she turned into a statue. Seems dead enough to me.

[warlok]

Originally posted by NobakeGaming:

Still there, but she turned into a statue. Seems dead enough to me.

Did you missed the part where she's a revenant? They don't turn to statues when they die, they turn to ash and disappear. Io doesn't, she is still there just like she said she would be, so why is the assumption here is that she's dead?

[NobakeGaming]

Originally posted by warlok:

Did you missed the part where she's a revenant? They don't turn to statues when they die, they turn to ash and disappear. Io doesn't, she is still there just like she said she would be, so why is the assumption here is that she's dead?

Yes, I know she's a revenant. Yes, I know revenants are supposed to turn to ash when they die. No, the game doesn't say anything about statue transformations anywhere. Yet still they happen.

If you're suggesting turning into a statue doesn't mean she's dead, then we have a difference of opinion here. I disagree, but fair enough.

If you're suggesting she doesn't turn into a statue, I suggest you go play the game and watch that ending, because she very clearly does. Just like the Successors do - tho with the Successors it's only in the memory world, in the real world they still turn to ash.

[Akooma]

1) Attendants are born from Cruz will, they are revenant yet they are not. I don't recall any of them need bloodbead to maintain themselves, imo attendants exist by sole will, to ease their successors' suffering at any cost. That's why when their successors die, attendants lost their will to live and just "refuse to exist", some of them felt helpless watching their successors frenzied, get corrupted and turn Lost. Back to Io, in the bad end, MC sacrificed, she don't have the memories that make she special therefore like any other attendants, she gave up. In the neutral end, MC have to maintain the mist forever, but Io knew one day MC will eventually wake up, so she chose to hibernate. The statue form is not true death, throughout the game you can save other successors from dying if you weave back their memories, give back their humanity. So in the end, Io is not dead but chose to stay by MC side forever, if MC never wake up, so be it.

2) I don't know how long, but very very long, enough for the sea to dry up, but why is that scientist Dominic who knew Silva and lived through the war, no one explained and since it's just a side quest I think the devs just like "hey let's throw some humans in so they don't forget our existence". Plot hole I guess, it's better if he was revenant.

3) MC is successor of the blood and maybe the first and oldest of all successors because when other successors can be killed and replaced you inherited the Queen immortality. The relic imo is just a solidified form, a defend mechanism to protect the Queen vestige and power when it's outside a physical body, it's not a container manufactured by anyone. Other successors are implanted with these after the Queen death but MC happen to just drain it straight from Cruz herself hence why even Jack doesn't know of your existence until Cathedral and Mido is just completely ignored you.

I don't have any evidence to back these up, just attention to details that's all

[Lapom]

Originally posted by Zorlond:

1) Io's task is complete. The Successor no longer needs her. Apparently the people who designed Io set this as a fail-safe to prevent purpose-less robot-people from wandering around. The same thing happens to her 'sisters' after you take out a Successor. Go outside the Crypt to where they were standing and you'll find a gem.

Uh, no. The attendants were born because of Cruz Silva's vestige. At first, I thought they were created by Gregorio or Mido as well. However, it doesn't make sense because no one knew the Successor of the Blood exists, so who would create Io for the protagonist?