Best weapons for Isis bloodcode ?

[XxmisamurderxX]

Title. My character is a hybrid caster/close combat build with B tier dark gifts and sword gifts.

[EinTheCorgi]

id say either fire sword from the fire cat boss or the ice sword from the double boss fight. I forget what one has better int scaleing. or you could try the assassins spear.

[DarkFenix]

Iceblood without a doubt, extremely light and has a surprisingly strong heavy attack. Also it looks amazing.

To be honest though, if you're going hybrid caster/melee, I'd recommend going light magic instead, the barrage spells are incredible, plus Bridge to Glory is probably the best melee buff and it scales with light magic.

[Sotanaht]

Both magics work with Isis, it's my preferred blood code as well. Equip Ivory Grace (or recolor) to maintain the lowest possible weight and very high light+dark gifts, so you can use all three (including melee) on one build.

As for weapons, Iceblood and Blazing Claw do the most damage if the enemy is not resistant, especially with Bridge to Glory active. If the enemy IS resistant, the best option is Executioner. However, with Executioner you will hit exactly 50 weight with Ivory Grace, which puts you down to normal speed. Use Alleviation on your blood veil to get back to Quick.

Enduring Crimson is technically higher damage than Executioner, plus lower weight, HOWEVER it attacks slower, especially the 4th hit in combo. This means lower DPS unless you are using mostly weapon skills.


For all of the above, Devour transformation is your best choice for a magic hybrid build. Really it's the best choice for nearly any build. You MIGHT consider adding fire/ice to blazing claw/iceblood respectively, as the damage increase is fairly noticeable against enemies weak to the element, but that's only good for specializing.

[Serikos]

I'm pretty sure the warrior would be a better code for this as it has high Strength and high willpower both.

[D-Black Catto]

i use hanemukuro

[Mad Catter]

Black Bayonet

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Stallios:

I'm pretty sure the warrior would be a better code for this as it has high Strength and high willpower both.

C mind. You need B+ mind to use the best buff in the game, so warrior is completely unusable. You can't give up 3 passives for that. We're talking about a 60%+ damage increase here for faster weapons

Warrior also only comes with 10 ichor stock, which makes it pretty hard to buff or use any sort of combat skills. Anything less than 20 is borderline unplayable, Isis comes with 30, which is pretty nice.

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by Stallios:

I'm pretty sure the warrior would be a better code for this as it has high Strength and high willpower both.

C mind. You need B+ mind to use the best buff in the game, so warrior is completely unusable. You can't give up 3 passives for that. We're talking about a 60%+ damage increase here for faster weapons

Warrior also only comes with 10 ichor stock, which makes it pretty hard to buff or use any sort of combat skills. Anything less than 20 is borderline unplayable, Isis comes with 30, which is pretty nice.

tell that to my 2H warrior build, the only skill he needs is that queenslayer skill that recovers part of hp lost which conveniently costs 10 ichor

[neogeno]

I actually use the Argent Wolf GS with Isis. I use Cognitive Zeal to temporarily raise my Mind and Willpower stat so I can use the weapon. Its a pretty fun way to play knowing you can use Shadow Leap to bail you out of the large comittment swings you do with the GS so you can be very hit and run with it. The 30 Ichor stock is nice to fool around with too.

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Friendly Fire:

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

C mind. You need B+ mind to use the best buff in the game, so warrior is completely unusable. You can't give up 3 passives for that. We're talking about a 60%+ damage increase here for faster weapons

Warrior also only comes with 10 ichor stock, which makes it pretty hard to buff or use any sort of combat skills. Anything less than 20 is borderline unplayable, Isis comes with 30, which is pretty nice.

tell that to my 2H warrior build, the only skill he needs is that queenslayer skill that recovers part of hp lost which conveniently costs 10 ichor

Congradulations, you do less damage per hit with a slow 2hand than a decent build does with a fast 1 hand, to say nothing of gifts which do even more.

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by Friendly Fire:

tell that to my 2H warrior build, the only skill he needs is that queenslayer skill that recovers part of hp lost which conveniently costs 10 ichor

Congradulations, you do less damage per hit with a slow 2hand than a decent build does with a fast 1 hand, to say nothing of gifts which do even more.

I manage

[Serikos]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by Friendly Fire:

tell that to my 2H warrior build, the only skill he needs is that queenslayer skill that recovers part of hp lost which conveniently costs 10 ichor

Congradulations, you do less damage per hit with a slow 2hand than a decent build does with a fast 1 hand, to say nothing of gifts which do even more.

You clearly haven't used alot of 2-handers have you? even without the buff you will still do far more damage, adding dark gifts into the mix only multiplies your already huge stagger capability even more, bearing in mind that you can also utilise the on-hit shockwave gift and the good drain buff as warrior.

[Sotanaht]

Originally posted by Stallios:

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Congradulations, you do less damage per hit with a slow 2hand than a decent build does with a fast 1 hand, to say nothing of gifts which do even more.

You clearly haven't used alot of 2-handers have you? even without the buff you will still do far more damage, adding dark gifts into the mix only multiplies your already huge stagger capability even more, bearing in mind that you can also utilise the on-hit shockwave gift and the good drain buff as warrior.

I have in fact, I used a 2hander for most of my first playthrough.

With Isis, 1hand mastery, swift destruction, and Executioner +10 devour using Bridge to glory (just 1 buff), I do 1573 damage on a light swing. With Warrior, 2hand mastery, Judgement Edge +10 Devour and no buffs I do 1541 with a light swing. throw on swift destruction as well (which you'd probably never use with 2handed) and it goes to 1684 on a light swing. Bridge to Glory ALONE makes a 1hand equivalent damage per hit to a 2hand. Add in other buffs and the damage goes up significantly.

Of course, you can and SHOULD use Bridge to Glory with a 2hand build as well, which was my point. I never said 2hand builds aren't viable, it's just that ANY build that cares about melee damage and does not have Bridge to Glory is trash.

And yes, the stagger on 2hand is nice. The stagger on barrage spells is also quite nice. That's neither here nor there really, we're talking about damage and damage buffs. You get the stagger regardless of whether or not you have the buffs as well.

Now, you can argue for mage build that doesn't care about weapon damage for whatever reason. If that's what you are doing, by all means skip Bridge To Glory. I kind of doubt that playstyle works very well given how Ichor works in this game, but whatever. You sure as hell aren't going to do that with Warrior blood code though.

[D-Black Catto]

Originally posted by Sotanaht:

Originally posted by Stallios:

You clearly haven't used alot of 2-handers have you? even without the buff you will still do far more damage, adding dark gifts into the mix only multiplies your already huge stagger capability even more, bearing in mind that you can also utilise the on-hit shockwave gift and the good drain buff as warrior.

I have in fact, I used a 2hander for most of my first playthrough.

With Isis, 1hand mastery, swift destruction, and Executioner +10 devour using Bridge to glory (just 1 buff), I do 1573 damage on a light swing. With Warrior, 2hand mastery, Judgement Edge +10 Devour and no buffs I do 1541 with a light swing. throw on swift destruction as well (which you'd probably never use with 2handed) and it goes to 1684 on a light swing. Bridge to Glory ALONE makes a 1hand equivalent damage per hit to a 2hand. Add in other buffs and the damage goes up significantly.

Of course, you can and SHOULD use Bridge to Glory with a 2hand build as well, which was my point. I never said 2hand builds aren't viable, it's just that ANY build that cares about melee damage and does not have Bridge to Glory is trash.

And yes, the stagger on 2hand is nice. The stagger on barrage spells is also quite nice. That's neither here nor there really, we're talking about damage and damage buffs. You get the stagger regardless of whether or not you have the buffs as well.

Now, you can argue for mage build that doesn't care about weapon damage for whatever reason. If that's what you are doing, by all means skip Bridge To Glory. I kind of doubt that playstyle works very well given how Ichor works in this game, but whatever. You sure as hell aren't going to do that with Warrior blood code though.

i did over 2200 damage without any buffs with warrior using zweihander intensification +10, when i ended my first playthrough on level 145

compare that to half of that on hanemukuro +10 which was my one handed sword of choice for my spell builds such as isis

im aware there were better swords for both 2H and 1H but i didnt bother with them on first playthrough; after that i got wolf kings blade and my 2H damage got even higher

[Serikos]

anyway, assuming the OP is talking about 1-handed swords specifically, consider either the argent wolf blade or the executioner, i'm not sure but i think the executioner would prefer you to have higher strength/dex to use properly, they are very similar other than the scaling however.