I stopped playing, I'm fed up.

[Luciella]

I can tell you I love Souls games and vampires and I have seen several animes. BUT this thing...its an unnecessary ecchi . Ok so I can try and get past that - rolling my eyes- at the camera pans, skimpy outfits, boss bikinis and jiggle (badly done) tech.

BUUUUUT the Cathedral...that THING, recycled assets besides pointless architecture. I know its a fantasy game, but never I was pulled out of the exp by a Souls environment, you could SEE in souls even the most fantasy ones, that each place had a purpose or was a natural occurrence. Yes in Souls some places stretched the function of the architecture, but still you could tell at that some point that place was usable, had a story and a purpose.

WTF is Cathedral? Its certainly not a cathedral. All those hallways connecting the same towers and doors hold no story OR purpose, besides being super lazy (colorless, ornament-less (things dropped there like books, desks etc)) its only purpose is to making the player go through them, thats not organic, not adventurous. It's like an unintended 4th wall break.

I got till the boss in a daze, sick and tired of that cathedral, and the boss is a pain, 2 fased, most attacks follow you like guided missiles and unlike Souls similar mech, its unavoidable even behind pillars (I only made one try tho) .

Weapons? Not a lot of variation. At one point I thought I was going to get daggers for the assassin, so the movements could be more fluid and the weight low. But nope. No daggers, bows, pistols, shields, crossbows. Just big sword (hammer), spear, sword and bayonets. The hell?

I guess the next areas are probably the snow thing. Which surely will be similar, all white nothing at all and no purpose or even a tree and recycled mobs.

At that point I said: FU it, this thing has no compelling story, no likeable fem or male characters, no inspiration.

This game could have been so much more. But seems they ran out of time and decided to cover up laziness with ♥♥♥♥ and skimpy outfits.

Whoever reads this, as a Souls player, I don't recommend this thing.

*Edited one lil start over the top of the comment. Becuase some ppl cant get past that.

[Tundrahunt]

This game is not a Dark Souls, you know?

[Viscule]

引用自 zartiavan：

引用自 Breakfast：

noo why did OP remove the "as a female gamer" part at the beginning?

She said at the end and honestly she did the right thing. She spewed a lot of non sense, but people made a lot of sexist comments for no reason. So now she can feel is "right" just because can play the sexist card and completely ignore all the other comments.

I don't think anyone made any sexist comments, it's just that it made no sense to mention. It's like saying you're gay and then go on to talk about economics. The fact someone is male or female doesn't contribute to this particular discussion. As the discussion is about the game, not your gender.

[Blue Eyes White Coffee]

Uh I dunno
Isn't the fact that she mentioned "im a female" means she wanted people to notice that?
Then she realized people aren't using it the way she wanted so she goes "meh" and changed her mind

[D-Black Catto]

引用自 Blue Eyes White Coffee：

Uh I dunno
Isn't the fact that she mentioned "im a female" means she wanted people to notice that?
Then she realized people aren't using it the way she wanted so she goes "meh" and changed her mind

maybe she was implying that no female can ever enjoy the sight of other woman's breast, which is kinda homophobic

[LGalucard]

引用自 zartiavan：

引用自 LGalucard：

Wanna count them?

https://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Enemies
Yes, wanna count. Let's count. 68 enemies in Bloodborne (Including the only available in chalice dungeons)
https://codevein.wiki.fextralife.com/Enemies
Over 100

If we count totally unique enemies, bloodborne have slightly more. The main difference is how good the Bloodborne enemies were designed compare to CV enemies. But also Bloodborn development cost was over 50 million. Code maybe 5 million. Bloodborne was made by a studio of 250 people. CV only 60.

Recolors dont count. Bloodborne uses unique models. Most enemies listed there are not unique. But of course you pretended to ignore that.

Slightly more unique... you are being way too generous. Team are budget are irrelevant because the games sold at the same price. If this had been a $30 game( as it should have) i would not make the comparison.

[davedarkotv]

yeah, pretty much what I think about this game, I'll add that most blood codes are absolutely useless compared to other, way more focused on one thing, ones. The gameplay is not bad at all thankfully, not too hard, not too easy (at least the bosses).

And no, you can't compare this to god eater when there are so many references and mechanics ripped straight from dark souls (like many other games did), this should be compared to a souls and it doesn't really hold up for the reasons you listed (op), yet it's still able to survive because of the gameplay.

[zartiavan]

引用自 LGalucard：

引用自 zartiavan：

https://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Enemies
Yes, wanna count. Let's count. 68 enemies in Bloodborne (Including the only available in chalice dungeons)
https://codevein.wiki.fextralife.com/Enemies
Over 100

If we count totally unique enemies, bloodborne have slightly more. The main difference is how good the Bloodborne enemies were designed compare to CV enemies. But also Bloodborn development cost was over 50 million. Code maybe 5 million. Bloodborne was made by a studio of 250 people. CV only 60.

Recolors dont count. Bloodborne uses unique models. Most enemies listed there are not unique. But of course you pretended to ignore that.

Recolors don't count. I know. That's why I said that unique enemies CV have slightly less enemies. You seems to pretend also to ignore what I said about the budget, 50 million budget vs 5 million.

So yeah, we have for example a mutated lost on the Central Government that have the same model of the Lost you encounter at the beginning. Of course is the same model, but being smart means you literally are able to use the same model and let him be unique. This one, for example, have a different outfit. Not just colors, literally different outfit. Different weapon and complete different behavior and moveset.

This means that you face an unique enemy EVEN if they used the same model. There is a difference between face the same enemy and face enemies that looks the same but have a complete different pattern. Create model for literally every different enemies would cost a lot of money. And you would see that only on a triple A game.

[LGalucard]

引用自 zartiavan：

引用自 LGalucard：

Recolors dont count. Bloodborne uses unique models. Most enemies listed there are not unique. But of course you pretended to ignore that.

Recolors don't count. I know. That's why I said that unique enemies CV have slightly less enemies. You seems to pretend also to ignore what I said about the budget, 50 million budget vs 5 million.

So yeah, we have for example a mutated lost on the Central Government that have the same model of the Lost you encounter at the beginning. Of course is the same model, but being smart means you literally are able to use the same model and let him be unique. This one, for example, have a different outfit. Not just colors, literally different outfit. Different weapon and complete different behavior and moveset.

This means that you face an unique enemy EVEN if they used the same model. There is a difference between face the same enemy and face enemies that looks the same but have a complete different pattern. Create model for literally every different enemies would cost a lot of money. And you would see that only on a triple A game.

By those standards i could count every enemy with a slight tweak or different weapon in bloodborne as an “unique” enemy... which i dont. Peasants alone would a ridiculous amount. The witches rather than one enemy would count for like 5.

The budget and team size are no excuse because the game is priced the same as any other AAA game. You cannot claim Indie status at AAA price. CV is filled of over recycled assets from beginning to end.

The game feels almost the same throughout.

[zartiavan]

引用自 LGalucard：

引用自 zartiavan：

Recolors don't count. I know. That's why I said that unique enemies CV have slightly less enemies. You seems to pretend also to ignore what I said about the budget, 50 million budget vs 5 million.

So yeah, we have for example a mutated lost on the Central Government that have the same model of the Lost you encounter at the beginning. Of course is the same model, but being smart means you literally are able to use the same model and let him be unique. This one, for example, have a different outfit. Not just colors, literally different outfit. Different weapon and complete different behavior and moveset.

This means that you face an unique enemy EVEN if they used the same model. There is a difference between face the same enemy and face enemies that looks the same but have a complete different pattern. Create model for literally every different enemies would cost a lot of money. And you would see that only on a triple A game.

By those standards i could count every enemy with a slight tweak or different weapon in bloodborne as an “unique” enemy... which i dont. Peasants alone would a ridiculous amount. The witches rather than one enemy would count for like 5.

The budget and team size are no excuse because the game is priced the same as any other AAA game. You cannot claim Indie status at AAA price. CV is filled of over recycled assets from beginning to end.

The game feels almost the same throughout.

1) If an enemy act completely different and have an entire different moveset, different health, do different damage. Yes, you should. Even if they look the same. Is like saying that the lost with shield and the lost with the bardiche are the same.

2) This game cost 49€, 69€ the deluxe. Dark Souls 3 cost 69€, 85€ the deluxe. Strangely, they didn't low down the price on USA, but as you could tell in the steamdb page, this game in USA is where cost the most. Bandai did a poor job, as usual, with regional price. But the game cost is not even remotely the same cost of an AAA game. And is not Indie as well. Is a borderline A game, AA game at max. And even if is the same(and is not), the development cost and the price are 2 completely separate things. I mean, Destiny 2 right now is free to play, but is also the most expensive game in the history.

3)No, it doesn't. And you are literally the only one to say this. I mean, in another thread you said that the game gets a pass because anime, one of the problem you can see with OP is the fact that is anime. You really are trying hard to hate on this game for no reason at all.

[Praesi]

I wait for a DLC or so. Dont see the Point to play everything again since exploration is very limited.

[Blue Eyes White Coffee]

引用自 zartiavan：

You really are trying hard to hate on this game for no reason

at least we know he actually tried hard
normal people (like OP) would end it with "i dont like this" or "i hate this" then move on
trying to make out reasons to hate something requires energy, time, and dedication

[gilde.gothic [Elite_Man]]

引用自 Naru：

引用自 LGalucard：

By those standards i could count every enemy with a slight tweak or different weapon in bloodborne as an “unique” enemy... which i dont. Peasants alone would a ridiculous amount. The witches rather than one enemy would count for like 5.

The budget and team size are no excuse because the game is priced the same as any other AAA game. You cannot claim Indie status at AAA price. CV is filled of over recycled assets from beginning to end.

The game feels almost the same throughout.

I didn't play Bloodborne because I haven't ever found a Dark souls game enjoyable. I even bought Demon Souls when it first came out and didn't enjoy it, but I am planning on buying this one. Wanna know why?

Because I enjoy games with extremely elaborate character creators.

If I were to look up character creation in Bloodborne, how would it compare to this game? If I bought Bloodbrone and was disappointed by the character creator and began to harp on about how bad of a game Bloodeborne was because the characxter creator was bad and, oh yeah, I also dislike souls games - would my complaints be any more relevant than yours or the OP's?

The game isn't to blame for your failures to research the game before you guys bought it. You are to blame for the lack of due diligence in spending your money wisely.

Considering the character creator and how much work has to go into making sure character creators with any amount of indepth customization options will work within the game, I am continually more and more impressed by this game the more I learn about it. $5million dollar budget with this charactor creator, this amount of skill set customization & so many different varieties of enemies with different attack patterns? That's impressive. Especially for a 60 person strong studio.

If you want a Hint:
Stay on Normal Dif. then, if you arent a big fan of dying a lot.

[kirakiraleighleigh]

I have never made a comment on Steam, but I felt I needed to come out of hibernation for this. I'm sorry you don't like the game. Everyone is entitled to their opinions, liking a game is subjective. But on first blush here; should've known what you were getting into with the fanservice stuff.

It's a trashy, weeby animu vampire edgelord game Souls-like game. We all know this on some level, and we'd all have to know this, just by Io existing at all, and seeing the trailer ever.

So if that bothers you, it wasn't really ever the game for you. I personally love it, and I'm a girl, and of course all girls (or ppl in general) won't appreciate it. But mindless anime fun, for the most part, is comforting for me.

Also Io is cute. I won't lie.

The Cathedral is a pain. Yeah, it's a pain. We all know it, but if that's earnestly the reason you basically stopped playing, which seems to be the case, consider summoning a buddy when maps get too rough.

Send out an SOS. It's incredibly fun, especially if you get your friend on Voice. We had such a blast, for reals. I'm planning on helping my friend from Germany get his butt through the Cathedral, because I also wasted a lot of time there, and want to make it more fun for him.

Help him avoid the raid rooms, those were oof!

This is coming from somebody who actually hates Dark Souls. Yup, I hate Dark Souls.

But Code Vein is great, that's my humble opinion. There's a lot of fun to be had, but I think people are misunderstanding the game.

For example, I'm seeing replies here that say some Blood Codes are useless. Well, possibly, but each Blood Code has at least 1 skill that'd be good to max-out and carry over, so not really.

There are also sidequests plenty of people are missing, and customizing your character into some OP deathmachine really isn't technically that challenging.

And if you find the lack of a challenge in the game to be a problem, don't bring a companion, especially not Yakumo, and don't level up. Problem solved: game difficult is now boosted.

There's a lot to work with. A lot of hidden mechanics like some passives do stuff that isn't listed, for example.

I want people reading this thread to give it a chance, but play it for what it is, not for what people want it to be: Anime Souls.

It sort of is, but not really. And there's a meaningful plot in there, but you have to pay attention enough, and try to interact with your companions, do sidequests, and repair Vestiges.

I just hope people reading this thread won't just go: ugh yeah, trash game, skip.

Because it's fun enough that a girl who hates Dark Souls went out of Steam Community hibernation to say how cool it is.

:)

[D-Black Catto]

引用自 kirakiraleighleigh：

I have never made a comment on Steam, but I felt I needed to come out of hibernation for this

what's hibernation are you a bear

[kirakiraleighleigh]

引用自 Friendly Fire：

引用自 kirakiraleighleigh：

I have never made a comment on Steam, but I felt I needed to come out of hibernation for this

what's hibernation are you a bear

I am possibly a bear. LOL.
It's that I don't ever interact on Steam, ever, and have 1 friend.
The one I'm helping play Code Vein. lmao.

Took the time to reply even though I have no interest in chilling on the platform.