Code Vein and God Eater DO Share a world, here is how. (SPOILERS)

[Elibrious]

Alight, so the fact that the same people made both games, that is a given. But here is proof they are adding onto the world they created for God Eater.

-Monsters in both games are produced by the influence of Miasma (Yes they use the same word and they are both a red fog)

-There are some weapons that appear in both games, but one thing is the way blood veins/god arcs are used. Both use enemy blood to enhance the users abilities.

-In God Eater, kids are made into God Eaters. (Solders that are infused with the blood of Aragami) to use God Arcs. Weapons made to consume Aragami to grant the wielder power.

But the Revs in Code Vein are able to wield such weaponry because of their creation. They took it the blood route, In God Eater, they tried the genetic route (which resulted in a high death rate in attempts to attune someone to a God Arc)

-This is what the Doctor dude that everyone hates in Code Vein is trying to do, but keeps failing. Instead it keeps turning his people into the lost.

-At the beginning of the boss fight of the doctor dude, he says that the giant red wall surrounding the city of which you reside in, is not actually keeping everything there in, but keeping beasts that tower over anything that you fight in Code Vein, out.

His whole goal is advance Revs evolution cycle by fighting things bigger and better is how he thinks that should happen. That is why he is trying to get rid of that Miasma wall, so those beasts that are called Aragami can come in and push them further.

-When he fuses the guy that is sitting on the throne with 3 other cores, he actually turns into a beast that looks very much alike a Aragami you fight in God Eater.

-Also, Revs can turn into what God Eaters hunt. Which is kinda weird now that I think about it.


TLDR;

Everyone is stuck on the same crappy planet in the same crappy situation. Only difference is God Eaters are killing bigger things with crappier equipment and Revs are currently oblivious to it.

[Fang]

I'd say this is blatantly obvious once the Mido cutscene ends. You literally get to see a revenant being attacked by an aragami. The mist is keeping them out.

[Xepher]

okay, counterpoint:
- Miasma affected aragami and ashborns we're only introduced in GE3, but they're not ash based.

- I can't make an argument about the weapon design, since it's subjective, but God Eaters doesn't use an aragamis blood for steroids. So you better read the database more.

- Kids being God Eaters were only introduced in GE3, and does not happen in previous games. Revenansts are also dead people with a parasite in the heart, so wielding different weapons doesn't matter.

- Mido has a Darwinism vision for revenants, so typical evolution scientist.

- The wall is definitely doing what it's supposed to do: block everything from going in or out.

- Darwinism that assumes they can kill even a freaking ogretail.

- Silva transformed due to relics, parasite wins controlling the body, and his furry interest.

- BOR parasite assist in manifesting those blood veil, but will slowly make you frenzy and turn into a lost, while a God Arc Weapon will happily devour you if don't have a God Arc. Heck both God Arc and the God Arc Weapon could be treated as an aragami since they DO have aragami cells so you can fight. And then there's Susanoo.

[silencer]

Aragami were not produced by Miasma, they were a spontaneous mutation (possibly aided by FENRIR) that affects things at a cellular level. Aragami are literally clumps of cells that choose specific forms and evolve "on the fly". Miasma/Ash Aragami only appear in the later games, they are symptoms of continuous ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ with the aragami cells, not the source of them.

God Arcs don't use blood, they literally consume the Aragami cells and absorb them into the Arc, where they are stabilized through the Bias Factor in the bracelets.

Revenants are reanimated dead infected by a parasite.
God Eaters are essentially Aragami themselves, just stabilized by the bracelets. GE:R showed what happens when a bracelet gets damaged via Lindow.

God Eaters are absolutely induced at a young age (like 16ish seems the norm), mostly because the older one is, the higher chance of failure during attunement of the God Arc and death.

They are not infused with blood, blood has nothing to do with Aragami. They are infected with a controlled culture of Aragami cells which then (hopefully) gets stabilized via the Bias Factor. Or you know, kills them.

Conter to that, the BOR Parasite does not seem picky as long as it's a corpse.

Aragami wouldn't care what Revenants are, they'd just eat them up and create more Aragami cells.

The weapons and monster sightings are obviously easter eggs/callbacks. Revenants would not be able to use God Arc Weapons, as they would immediately consume anyone without a Bias Factor, since the Weapons are Aragami themselves. Again, see GE:R and the protagonist trying to use Lindows weapon.

[玉藻の前]

The simple answer is that there's literally a cutscene with a Dyaus Pita in it, that's basically all the evidence anyone should need.

The connections you're making aren't very accurate though...

[silencer]

Or the Dyaus Pita could be a wink to God Eater fans, like the God Eater weapons are.

[Xepher]

Originally posted by silencer:

Or the Dyaus Pita could be a wink to God Eater fans, like the God Eater weapons are.

weapons were pre-order bonus, so they don't count.

bugarally existing is evidence.
Dyaus Pita existing is evidence.
Mido knowing their existence outside the mist is evidence.

They clearly can't make that non-canon now.

[Listless]

Yeah I assume they are both set in the same world, timeline wise is anyone's guess, and thinking about that, The Virgin Born looks very similar to Large designs. Aragami

[Slaanesh]

Well during story, with memory shards, you learn that Revenant then Queen were created to beat somes unknows monsters and you see Dyaus Pita, it's obvious indeed...

The hard thing to guess is about the timeline, it's kind of hard to imagine that aragamis just have ignored a city this big and even more hard to explain they didn't have other solution than create QUEEN to beat them, Silva didn't create the blood mist before the QUEEN was ''dead'', it's very possible than god eaters or fenrir as we know them it didn't even exist yet at this point, or the first gen just appeared and god eaters are few... Even more surprising, the power of revenant to beat aragami with ice, fire, thunder, blood and others magic tricks, that's not something that should remain unoticed wathever the timeline is... Hard to say if it's canon with the god eaters universe for now...

Hope we get somes responses about all this someday

[MintedTea]

Originally posted by Shoryu:

Well during story, with memory shards, you learn that Revenant then Queen were created to beat somes unknows monsters and you see Dyaus Pita, it's obvious indeed...

The hard thing to guess is about the timeline, it's kind of hard to imagine that aragamis just have ignored a city this big and even more hard to explain they didn't have other solution than create QUEEN to beat them, Silva didn't create the blood mist before the QUEEN was ''dead'', it's very possible than god eaters or fenrir as we know them it didn't even exist yet at this point, or the first gen just appeared and god eaters are few... Even more surprising, the power of revenant to beat aragami with ice, fire, thunder, blood and others magic tricks, that's not something that should remain unoticed wathever the timeline is... Hard to say if it's canon with the god eaters universe for now...

Hope we get somes responses about all this someday

I thought about this, however, I can only assume that the whole Revenant thing was a precautionary measure - Silva saw the Aragami threat rising before many others did, and so decided to take action before things ended up out of control. Alternatively, perhaps the Queen, during her frenzy, essentially destroyed every Aragami within the vicinity as she was designed to, but of course, was totally out of control, so she had to be put down.

Either would explain that lack of any and all Aragami within the Gaol of the Mists while also pitting the timeline somewhere before GE:R. Any later would be illogical because, as you said, the Aragami would have already destroyed and taken over the area we know as "Vein" since there would have been no barrier stopping them.

In terms of Oracle Cells, however... I'm relatively sure that Revenants would have very little issue draining and consuming them with their Blood Veils, since Veils are described to absorb and transmutate blood into blood-code compatible Ichor when a drain attack is used. I can only assume that it'd be a similar process with Oracle Cells, neutralizing the cells in the process before the BOR Parasite consumes them entirely. Given that Revenants were originally created to slay the Aragami, I can only assume this to be the original purpose of Blood Veils. The fact that the Dyaus Pita is totally consumed and destroyed by the barrier when it raises again kind of supports this fact. That the BOR Parasite is significantly more powerful that Oracle Cells and is capable of neutralizing them.

[shinros]

I see it more akin to drakengard/nier. Same universe but alternative setting, a different timeline where humanity handles the Aragami situation differently. Also Jack does note that Eva's home was originally a desert, so there's that as well. Hence why he crypt is like that.

[MintedTea]

Originally posted by shinros:

I see it more akin to drakengard/nier. Same universe but alternative setting, a different timeline where humanity handles the Aragami situation differently.

It's a novel idea, but I personally prefer the idea that the world is really just this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. Gaol of the Mists in one place, Aragami everywhere else. Damned if you do/don't situation that paints a bleak picture.

[shinros]

Originally posted by Lynxtra:

Originally posted by shinros:

I see it more akin to drakengard/nier. Same universe but alternative setting, a different timeline where humanity handles the Aragami situation differently.

It's a novel idea, but I personally prefer the idea that the world is really just this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ up. Gaol of the Mists in one place, Aragami everywhere else. Damned if you do/don't situation that paints a bleak picture.

That's another way to see it the other possibility as I mentioned in my last post is that this takes place after God eater 3 considering Jack mentions that Eva's home was a desert.

[Beldhan]

Originally posted by Shoryu:

Well during story, with memory shards, you learn that Revenant then Queen were created to beat somes unknows monsters and you see Dyaus Pita, it's obvious indeed...

The hard thing to guess is about the timeline, it's kind of hard to imagine that aragamis just have ignored a city this big and even more hard to explain they didn't have other solution than create QUEEN to beat them, Silva didn't create the blood mist before the QUEEN was ''dead'', it's very possible than god eaters or fenrir as we know them it didn't even exist yet at this point, or the first gen just appeared and god eaters are few... Even more surprising, the power of revenant to beat aragami with ice, fire, thunder, blood and others magic tricks, that's not something that should remain unoticed wathever the timeline is... Hard to say if it's canon with the god eaters universe for now...

Hope we get somes responses about all this someday

we are clearly in the same world, the thing is we don't know where Vein is situated in the world and it's clear that the world of god eater don't allow long range communication anymore...

all in all i hope we have some answer with the season pass, but i doubt it, i think if we get a clear answer it will not before a code vein 2 or code vein X god eater game. the true good ending let's us know that another game will happend but i doubt we will seen more of the world behind the blood veil in this one.

[MintedTea]

If I had to hazard a guess, Code Vein most logically takes places somewhere in the US, given that we haven't been there in a God Eater game yet. It'd explain the lack of Thorns of Judgement or distant Red Mist in God Eater 3, for example, which takes places in Europe. For all we know, Fenrir might not have had too much of a presence in the US given that it was primarily a European company before ♥♥♥♥ went down.

[Xepher]

I find it odd that most of the people who theorize about the games connection only uses GE3 as reference, even though there's the GE and GE2 for more references.