CM 800 Jupiter

[Orus]

Okay so finally got [RED] Jupiter 10 *** but what are the best augments? the general 3? (deadly, adapt, overclock) or would it be better with other augments?

[wakey wakey]

Do you have any other crowd clearing weapon like a red hornet/sublight or even a ronson 45?

Tbh jupiter is a relict of the old days and not really effective at all nowadays. But if you wanna really use it, it's the same as for most non bossing weapons: Deadly/Overclocked/Adaptive.

Just a nice hint. Don't upgrade it, - even a black version is as useful as a black hard thorn(=trash tier).

[Orus]

Publicado originalmente por wakey wakey:

Do you have any other crowd clearing weapon like a red hornet/sublight or even a ronson 45?

Tbh jupiter is a relict of the old days and not really effective at all nowadays. But if you wanna really use it, it's the same as for most non bossing weapons: Deadly/Overclocked/Adaptive.

Just a nice hint. Don't upgrade it, - even a black version is as useful as a black hard thorn(=trash tier).

I have a Ronson 5X5 (prem shotgun) which seems to be great at mob clearing. What guns do you suggest looking for nowadays?

[wakey wakey]

It's mostly about which class and which skills you choose. For general use Shockfield/Stripper/Sublight/Hornet are safe bets.

Mixmaster is also a good gun but very expensive as a mobbing weapon. The ammo is 3 times as costly as sublight ammo for a bit less dps/dpm and way less control.(sublight has 8 pierce@5 mastery which makes it kinda superior until you get a black shockfield.)

BUT if you're playing a heavy Proposition is also a choice. ;)

[Orus]

Publicado originalmente por wakey wakey:

It's mostly about which class and which skills you choose. For general use Shockfield/Stripper/Sublight/Hornet are safe bets.

Mixmaster is also a good gun but very expensive as a mobbing weapon. The ammo is 3 times as costly as sublight ammo for a bit less dps/dpm and way less control.(sublight has 8 pierce@5 mastery which makes it kinda superior until you get a black shockfield.)

BUT if you're playing a heavy Proposition is also a choice. ;)

I'm playing as a medic, but will eventually have one of each class

[wakey wakey]

I play as medic myself on the steam version and got rather far with a tanky build.

Atm I am using a black ronson 45, a red Stripper for bosses(tenacious/capacity/overclocked), dots do stack and the physicial damage is so low on the stripper that I really cringe everytime I see a lvl 100 with deadly instead of capacity on a 10*** stripper(a dps loss between 10% and 20%, even with max reload) or even worse adaptive...

Yay those poison necro spawns are reaaaaaly scary and totally not bugged 99% of the time.^^

And for LMS(last man standing) I always equip my sublight just to get rid of ppl who wan't to trap me in later waves. 7 or 8(with mastery) pierce makes it kinda impossible combined with your self heal/medikits to ever get trapped in such events and you can rather easily turn the tides in no time even on heavies who don't get oneshot from strong+dark minions(the only way to actually die as medic) on later waves with 22k+ hp.

[Orus]

Publicado originalmente por wakey wakey:

I play as medic myself on the steam version and got rather far with a tanky build.

Atm I am using a black ronson 45, a red Stripper for bosses(tenacious/capacity/overclocked), dots do stack and the physicial damage is so low on the stripper that I really cringe everytime I see a lvl 100 with deadly instead of capacity on a 10*** stripper(a dps loss between 10% and 20%, even with max reload) or even worse adaptive...

Yay those poison necro spawns are reaaaaaly scary and totally not bugged 99% of the time.^^

And for LMS(last man standing) I always equip my sublight just to get rid of ppl who wan't to trap me in later waves. 7 or 8(with mastery) pierce makes it kinda impossible combined with your self heal/medikits to ever get trapped in such events and you can rather easily turn the tides in no time even on heavies who don't get oneshot from strong+dark minions(the only way to actually die as medic) on later waves with 22k+ hp.

Alright, thank you for the info, helped a lot :)

[Scaryowl]

lol Jupiter is a relic of the past... it's easily the best crowd clearing gun in the game. With the way it works, it can do 2500 damage per shot completely un upgraded to 20 zombies. My 2* 2 basic jupiter is still my best crowd clearing gun on my level 40 account, and I've opened a black box.

[wakey wakey]

Publicado originalmente por Crabbeh:

lol Jupiter is a relic of the past... it's easily the best crowd clearing gun in the game. With the way it works, it can do 2500 damage per shot completely un upgraded to 20 zombies. My 2* 2 basic jupiter is still my best crowd clearing gun on my level 40 account, and I've opened a black box.

As a medic you will never get to those %dmg increases as a assault/heavy does. So your only way to deal at least decent boss dmg is a stripper. Which makes 1 slot locked. Now if you don't want to spent an eternity on killing elite poison spawns on all maps besides vaccine(you can just skip the spawns there) you need a hiks s300.

On the other side you kinda also need a physical weapon for clearing enemies, there goes the sublight/hornet/ronson45.

You just don't have the slots to include a jupiter instead you could just use a trailblazer as a pistol slot for the same effect if you really want. And btw a trailblazer does the same job a jupiter does but you can buy 12 times the ammo for the same cost.

Energy dmg is just the weakest of all dmg types and besides of premium guns and the shocklight rather useless.

[Scaryowl]

Publicado originalmente por wakey wakey:

Publicado originalmente por Crabbeh:

lol Jupiter is a relic of the past... it's easily the best crowd clearing gun in the game. With the way it works, it can do 2500 damage per shot completely un upgraded to 20 zombies. My 2* 2 basic jupiter is still my best crowd clearing gun on my level 40 account, and I've opened a black box.

As a medic you will never get to those %dmg increases as a assault/heavy does. So your only way to deal at least decent boss dmg is a stripper. Which makes 1 slot locked. Now if you don't want to spent an eternity on killing elite poison spawns on all maps besides vaccine(you can just skip the spawns there) you need a hiks s300.

On the other side you kinda also need a physical weapon for clearing enemies, there goes the sublight/hornet/ronson45.

You just don't have the slots to include a jupiter instead you could just use a trailblazer as a pistol slot for the same effect if you really want. And btw a trailblazer does the same job a jupiter does but you can buy 12 times the ammo for the same cost.

Energy dmg is just the weakest of all dmg types and besides of premium guns and the shocklight rather useless.

jupiter+ronson45+stripper... good loadout. idk why you complain about that.

[Scaryowl]

dont forget that medic has bio bomb... can ignore resistances for the most part.

[wakey wakey]

Publicado originalmente por Crabbeh:

Publicado originalmente por wakey wakey:

As a medic you will never get to those %dmg increases as a assault/heavy does. So your only way to deal at least decent boss dmg is a stripper. Which makes 1 slot locked. Now if you don't want to spent an eternity on killing elite poison spawns on all maps besides vaccine(you can just skip the spawns there) you need a hiks s300.

On the other side you kinda also need a physical weapon for clearing enemies, there goes the sublight/hornet/ronson45.

You just don't have the slots to include a jupiter instead you could just use a trailblazer as a pistol slot for the same effect if you really want. And btw a trailblazer does the same job a jupiter does but you can buy 12 times the ammo for the same cost.

Energy dmg is just the weakest of all dmg types and besides of premium guns and the shocklight rather useless.

jupiter+ronson45+stripper... good loadout. idk why you complain about that.

ronson kinda makes a jupiter obsolete.

You will use the ronson for 2300$/400 ammo while the jupiter does cost 35000$/120(? can't remember right now I don't have a black one on steam, - it was at least over 30k). And the ronson can get the job as fast done as the jupiter, besides pods killing. But why equip a weapon just for that. :>

Edit: You have to remember that most pistols on the web version are not fully automatic(you need to click per shot) until lvl 5 pistol mastery and cannot be overclocked like in the mobile/steam version.

Pistols on this version are way more powerful and even on par with some of the best primary weapons while having near zero ammo cost for HighDMG ammo.

[Scaryowl]

Publicado originalmente por wakey wakey:

Publicado originalmente por Crabbeh:

jupiter+ronson45+stripper... good loadout. idk why you complain about that.

ronson kinda makes a jupiter obsolete.

You will use the ronson for 2300$/400 ammo while the jupiter does cost 35000$/120(? can't remember right now I don't have a black one on steam, - it was at least over 30k). And the ronson can get the job as fast done as the jupiter, besides pods killing. But why equip a weapon just for that. :>

Edit: You have to remember that most pistols on the web version are not fully automatic(you need to click per shot) until lvl 5 pistol mastery and cannot be overclocked like in the mobile/steam version.

Pistols on this version are way more powerful and even on par with some of the best primary weapons while having near zero ammo cost for HighDMG ammo.

i'm not sure you've ever used a jupiter. it excels at shredding hordes, but has problems with singular zombies. That's because of the fact that it can hit the same zombie more than once with the same shot, if one is close enough to it. That means that for every pierce the gun has, it can hit something one more time. For nightmare pods that trigger and spawn hordes of bloaters, thats basically the only thing that can kill them faster than they spawn (unless you have a amazing gun, but if you did, why would you need anything else?) it also means a completely unupgraded normal jupiter will hit almost 6k dps against necro spawns, and a RED one will do almost 10k. Good stuff.

[wakey wakey]

Publicado originalmente por Crabbeh:

Publicado originalmente por wakey wakey:

ronson kinda makes a jupiter obsolete.

You will use the ronson for 2300$/400 ammo while the jupiter does cost 35000$/120(? can't remember right now I don't have a black one on steam, - it was at least over 30k). And the ronson can get the job as fast done as the jupiter, besides pods killing. But why equip a weapon just for that. :>

Edit: You have to remember that most pistols on the web version are not fully automatic(you need to click per shot) until lvl 5 pistol mastery and cannot be overclocked like in the mobile/steam version.

Pistols on this version are way more powerful and even on par with some of the best primary weapons while having near zero ammo cost for HighDMG ammo.

i'm not sure you've ever used a jupiter. it excels at shredding hordes, but has problems with singular zombies. That's because of the fact that it can hit the same zombie more than once with the same shot, if one is close enough to it. That means that for every pierce the gun has, it can hit something one more time. For nightmare pods that trigger and spawn hordes of bloaters, thats basically the only thing that can kill them faster than they spawn (unless you have a amazing gun, but if you did, why would you need anything else?) it also means a completely unupgraded normal jupiter will hit almost 6k dps against necro spawns, and a RED one will do almost 10k. Good stuff.

I know how it works, that's the reason why I did mention the trailblazer in an earlier post. ;) It does exactly the same for no cost at all(7k/400) and doesn't use a primary weapon slot.

And tbh except one on single map and only if some assault get cocky and tries to kill the pods while the others are on the first boss and fails while doing it.(=mass spawn) there is just no use at all for it, even on events.(Between wave 45x-6x you just get one hit killed from every dark minion with the strong perk as non heavy and before that every physical weapon with 6+ pierce is more effective)

[Scaryowl]

I found it most useful on events, since it could wipe the hordes with 1-2 shots; and with 2 points in field supplies I rarely had to buy ammo. I dont really use it anymore, since I find it really boring.