[SPOILER] Curious as to how loreful this is

[Heretek1914]

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Apparently the Xenarites are servants of The Dragon, ie the Dragon of Mars / Mag'ladroth the Void Dragon, at least according to this game's Xenarite ending.

This is definitely different from the last time I heard of the Xenarites, who seemed like more of a Mechanicus equivalent to Radical Inquisitors than traitor cultists.

This also has new implications given the newer lore of sentient Necrons and dead C'tan, potentially making the Dragon the last intact C'tan and throwing its motivations and end goals into speculation. Is it still a Necron god threatening to tear the Imperium's heart out? I doubt it, it should hate the Necrons and have no allegiance to them. Is it aiding humanity, manipulating it, simply working in parallel? Hard to say, for me.

The game is marketed with the strife of the Mechanicum front and center, as well as the potential to radically change the fate of the Imperium through the course of what we do, though of course to final outcome is as ever ambiguous. Do the new weapons and aversion of stagnation save the Mechanicum? Is a traitor cult thrust into power, ready to cripple the Imperium when the time comes? Are we about to witness the emergence of another faction in 40K, traitors but not Chaos? A new Mechanicus faction, much like how the Guard are now the Astra Miltarum and Order Tempestus, or Space Marines and Primaris Marines? Is Belisarius Cawl a Xenarite? If we stood with Videx, does sticking to dogma doom the Imperium to ever more decline as it has along the line of the Ministorum, culminating in the collapse of the Golden Throne?

40K is always fun to speculate about, though of course some things end up absolutely Ward-ed.

[Powercore2000]

I'd love to see a new wave of innovators in the Mechanicus that aren't immediately burn at the stack for heresy. As well as possibly a way for the ad-mech to repair larger sections of Mars for that sweet sweet, dark age technology.



Since the galaxy dividing warp tear, I think desperate times would call for desperate measures, and thus some new tactics and protocols for the ad-mech. Maybe calling on their iron hand friends a bit more often, or some new self-defense measures so they can better defend their forge worlds since the imperium at large isn't in too great of a shape to help them keep what holdings they have.

[Moonbane]

the ancient archmagos Belisarius Cawl is the main innovator these days and the mechanicus is frothing over it, but they can do nothing as the Primarch is protecting him.

[kazaddum]

Originally posted by Nefer:

the ancient archmagos Belisarius Cawl is the main innovator these days and the mechanicus is frothing over it, but they can do nothing as the Primarch is protecting him.

Can't wait for Cawl to start slapping demons at everything. He's just such a massive marry sue.

Originally posted by powercore2000:

I'd love to see a new wave of innovators in the Mechanicus that aren't immediately burn at the stack for heresy. As well as possibly a way for the ad-mech to repair larger sections of Mars for that sweet sweet, dark age technology.



Since the galaxy dividing warp tear, I think desperate times would call for desperate measures, and thus some new tactics and protocols for the ad-mech. Maybe calling on their iron hand friends a bit more often, or some new self-defense measures so they can better defend their forge worlds since the imperium at large isn't in too great of a shape to help them keep what holdings they have.

There's such a wave already, for centuries already. At least according the Lathe Worlds book. The problem is that everyone only masturbates over the old forgeworlds. They tend to be orthodox as hell because of their age, of course. One just has to look at younger enclaves and forgeworlds and the Explorator fleets.

On the other hand, the AdMech is averse to innovation for damn good reasons. Namely the Age of Strife when this almost exterminated mankind and the HH when the most ardent defenders of progress turned out to be Dark Mechanicum. The danger of corruption is now bigger than ever, if anything.

[Moonbane]

Not to forget that the first Man of Iron just have returned in lore. A sentient Dark Age of Technology automaton that is pretending to be an imperial robot. Even sprouting platitudes about the omnisiah and being in the service of a magos from Ryza. Playing dumb to survive.

[Heretek1914]

Originally posted by Nefer:

Not to forget that the first Man of Iron just have returned in lore. A sentient Dark Age of Technology automaton that is pretending to be an imperial robot. Even sprouting platitudes about the omnisiah and being in the service of a magos from Ryza. Playing dumb to survive.

What's this from? News to me, but I haven't gotten a Black Library book in a while other than Gods of Mars and haven't got the 8the codices.

[Moonbane]

http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/UR-025
Appeared in the recently released Blackstone Fortress boardgame.

https://www.blacklibrary.com/new-titles/warhammer-40000/advent-2018-4-man-of-iron-eshort.html

https://regimental-standard.com/2018/11/28/how-to-spot-an-abominable-intelligence/

And theyve already released rules for the Blackstone fortress characters to use in the kill team skirmish game. I love that a special rule for UR-025 whom pretends to be an imperial robot is named: Something is not quite right.. he never benefits from any Canticles of the Omnisiah.

So UR-025 would be at least 17.000 year old, given that the cybernetic revolt occured in M23.