How to Counter Chain + Range Raiden Spam?

[Seeking Solace]

Topic.

[Cryptic]

Just get a melting point with absorption and field maintenance and win every single game.

[Seeking Solace]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Just get a melting point with absorption and field maintenance and win every single game.

Wait... Melting Points have Field Maintenance now?

[Cryptic]

Originally posted by Seeking Solace:

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Just get a melting point with absorption and field maintenance and win every single game.

Wait... Melting Points have Field Maintenance now?

I'm pretty sure they do but I will have to look the next time I fire up the game but I'm pretty disappointed with those in the current balancing right now. I watched one of those with the absorption and that nanotech upgrade just restore health constantly and kill an entire army by itself. Pretty disappointing to be honest because that was obviously a very cheesy strategy because everything else my opponent had died like right off the bat except for that thing which killed the entire force that I had so when I saw they were doing that I just left the game because it wasn't even fun anymore. Nothing could touch it even with EMP strikes

[Ronin]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Originally posted by Seeking Solace:

Wait... Melting Points have Field Maintenance now?

I'm pretty sure they do but I will have to look the next time I fire up the game but I'm pretty disappointed with those in the current balancing right now. I watched one of those with the absorption and that nanotech upgrade just restore health constantly and kill an entire army by itself. Pretty disappointing to be honest because that was obviously a very cheesy strategy because everything else my opponent had died like right off the bat except for that thing which killed the entire force that I had so when I saw they were doing that I just left the game because it wasn't even fun anymore. Nothing could touch it even with EMP strikes

Why didn't you just use long range units behind chaff?

[Kugelfisch]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Originally posted by Seeking Solace:

Wait... Melting Points have Field Maintenance now?

I'm pretty sure they do but I will have to look the next time I fire up the game but I'm pretty disappointed with those in the current balancing right now. I watched one of those with the absorption and that nanotech upgrade just restore health constantly and kill an entire army by itself. Pretty disappointing to be honest because that was obviously a very cheesy strategy because everything else my opponent had died like right off the bat except for that thing which killed the entire force that I had so when I saw they were doing that I just left the game because it wasn't even fun anymore. Nothing could touch it even with EMP strikes

since u r announcing on several threads that melting with absorbtion is key to win, do you mind if I ask what your mrr actl is?

[Arti_Sel]

Lots of fangs and some kind of heavy hitter behind them works. Typhoons with shields and AA can also be surprisingly helpful. But generally you just want a lot of fangs that survive the initial chaff clear. This is my initial impression at least.

[Vespertellino]

absorption melter gets shut down by raiden emp, duh

[Carog the Fat]

Mustangs seems to work well into them just add range and more damage and have plenty of chaff, lots of little enemies means they are going to way over kill stuff, back it up with giant of choice to counter their board.

[Gravgon]

Wasps with range+Anti Air works great.

[MadB@t]

Originally posted by Kugelfisch:

Originally posted by Cryptic:

I'm pretty sure they do but I will have to look the next time I fire up the game but I'm pretty disappointed with those in the current balancing right now. I watched one of those with the absorption and that nanotech upgrade just restore health constantly and kill an entire army by itself. Pretty disappointing to be honest because that was obviously a very cheesy strategy because everything else my opponent had died like right off the bat except for that thing which killed the entire force that I had so when I saw they were doing that I just left the game because it wasn't even fun anymore. Nothing could touch it even with EMP strikes

since u r announcing on several threads that melting with absorbtion is key to win, do you mind if I ask what your mrr actl is?

For sure below 1600 lol. Probably not even 1000 as he thinks melters come with both absorption and field maintenance...

He probably never heard of emp, doesn't know chaff mechanics and never thought of just making chaff past round 3!

Melters have so many counters involving mass units like wasps, mustangs or outranging them like snipers and phoenix. Even by units it supposedly counters when those have the right tech.

[Cryptic]

Originally posted by MadB@t:

Originally posted by Kugelfisch:

since u r announcing on several threads that melting with absorbtion is key to win, do you mind if I ask what your mrr actl is?

For sure below 1600 lol. Probably not even 1000 as he thinks melters come with both absorption and field maintenance...

He probably never heard of emp, doesn't know chaff mechanics and never thought of just making chaff past round 3!

Melters have so many counters involving mass units like wasps, mustangs or outranging them like snipers and phoenix. Even by units it supposedly counters when those have the right tech.

no, emp does jack when they have 10 of them lol. nice try though.

very cute

[MadB@t]

Lol, you've been spamming every post with the same ♥♥♥♥. You're low level, refusing to take any advise and pretending you've been winning all games with this strat.
But then you keep complaining how everyone else does it better and you still loose...

Says enough...

Keep doing that low mmr strat until you reach high enough mmr that someone who actually can play counters you hard with a different unit.
Maybe, you'll finally realize then how easy it was to counter.

[Cryptic]

Originally posted by MadB@t:

Lol, you've been spamming every post with the same ♥♥♥♥. You're low level, refusing to take any advise and pretending you've been winning all games with this strat.
But then you keep complaining how everyone else does it better and you still loose...

Says enough...

Keep doing that low mmr strat until you reach high enough mmr that someone who actually can play counters you hard with a different unit.
Maybe, you'll finally realize then how easy it was to counter.

nah, you don't know what you're talking about. thanks for trying though, i appreciate your attempts but they are futile

game just has a lot of balance issues

im a game dev myself of 10+ years and a modder of over 20 years so i'm not shooting from the hip

the balance in this game is trash and others seem to agree. at least after the recent update.

[Antpile]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Originally posted by MadB@t:

For sure below 1600 lol. Probably not even 1000 as he thinks melters come with both absorption and field maintenance...

He probably never heard of emp, doesn't know chaff mechanics and never thought of just making chaff past round 3!

Melters have so many counters involving mass units like wasps, mustangs or outranging them like snipers and phoenix. Even by units it supposedly counters when those have the right tech.

no, emp does jack when they have 10 of them lol. nice try though.

very cute

10 of them.. what? How did you let him get 10 melting points? Just... what are you even talking about?

Go try it right now. Go queue for 1v1, and TRY and get 10 melters down without losing. Tell me how many attempts it takes, if you ever manage it at all.

[Arti_Sel]

Originally posted by Cryptic:

Originally posted by MadB@t:

Lol, you've been spamming every post with the same ♥♥♥♥. You're low level, refusing to take any advise and pretending you've been winning all games with this strat.
But then you keep complaining how everyone else does it better and you still loose...

Says enough...

Keep doing that low mmr strat until you reach high enough mmr that someone who actually can play counters you hard with a different unit.
Maybe, you'll finally realize then how easy it was to counter.

nah, you don't know what you're talking about. thanks for trying though, i appreciate your attempts but they are futile

game just has a lot of balance issues

im a game dev myself of 10+ years and a modder of over 20 years so i'm not shooting from the hip

the balance in this game is trash and others seem to agree. at least after the recent update.

Dude, every noob crying about entry-level skill-issues is a game-dev, math major or whatever.

And especially as a game dev you should know to listen to the more experienced playerbase, the people who know how the game is actually played.