Will this be a Quest 3 standalone title?

[bluesky]

The Quest 3 should be able to handle this without a pc....

[grzegorz77]

Originally posted by Quantum Entropy:

The Quest 3 should be able to handle this without a pc....

5 topics below is the answer that no.
With quoting the publisher, etc.
With an explanation why quest 3 is 10 times too weak.

The game works like a simulator, it counts a lot of things. You're overestimating the capabilities of the Quest 3.

(I didn't give the jester's prize)

[醉仙望月]

FAQ: Will VTOL VR come to the Oculus Quest?

Originally posted by Paolo:

Unfortunately, I have no plans to port VTOL VR to run on Quest natively.
This is mostly due to the large memory usage, CPU usage, and other system requirements.
However, VTOL VR is known to work well on the Quest when wired to a VR capable PC, or wirelessly using Virtual Desktop.
I wanted to take advantage of what's included in Steamworks since it's technically already being paid for. Steam Networking Sockets are great because it's reliable and fast but I'm locked to Steam users for multiplayer. I don't mind that but in the future if for example I want to make a Quest native game, I will have to try something else.

[bluesky]

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

Originally posted by Quantum Entropy:

The Quest 3 should be able to handle this without a pc....

5 topics below is the answer that no.
With quoting the publisher, etc.
With an explanation why quest 3 is 10 times too weak.

The game works like a simulator, it counts a lot of things. You're overestimating the capabilities of the Quest 3.

(I didn't give the jester's prize)

Quest 3 is on par with a rtx 2080. which is way more than the game recommended specs

[grzegorz77]

Originally posted by Quantum Entropy:

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

edit...

Quest 3 is on par with a rtx 2080. which is way more than the game recommended specs

I guess you accidentally confused 2080 with 1050.
But maybe I'm wrong, I'm not interested in quest 3, can you provide some reliable source ???


edit:
Ok, I'm sick of this nonsense.
Again, someone believes in nonsense as if quest 3 was some kind of super computer

https://vr-compare.com/headset/metaquest3
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Operating System Android
Chipset Qualcomm Snapdragon XR2 Gen 2
CPU Octa-core Kryo (1 x 3.19 GHz, 4 x 2.8 GHz, 3 x 2.0 GHz)
GPU Adreno 740


GPU Adreno 740
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/igpu-qualcomm_adreno_740
https://chipguider.com/?gpu=adreno-740-980mhz
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FP32 (Single Precision) _ 1.74 TFLOPS
GFLOPs FP32 (Single Precision) 2138 GFLOPs

Let's say it's 2 TFLOPS


And how much does an old popular budget graphics card released in 2016 have?
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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-gtx-1050-ti.c2885
FP32 (float) _ 2.138 TFLOPS

How much does an old strong graphics card released in 2018 have?
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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-2080.c3224
FP32 (float) _ 10.07 TFLOPS


And how much does the graphics card have, which for the resolution of the quest 3 is a good budget choice ? (released in 2020)
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https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-ti.c3681
FP32 (float) _ 16.20 TFLOPS


Now let's try to determine by the secret knowledge called mathematics, which is bigger
Let's say it's 2 TFLOPS
and
FP32 (float) _ 10.07 TFLOPS

Most scientists agree, 10 is more than 2.


Let's try to compare whether 2 is greater than 16
Most scientists agree, 16 is more than 2.


But here's a surprise, because its all doesn't matter.
Because the quest 3 has a cpu that is better than a calculator made of wood. But too weak for this game.

[A Lamp]

Originally posted by Quantum Entropy:

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

5 topics below is the answer that no.
With quoting the publisher, etc.
With an explanation why quest 3 is 10 times too weak.

The game works like a simulator, it counts a lot of things. You're overestimating the capabilities of the Quest 3.

(I didn't give the jester's prize)

Quest 3 is on par with a rtx 2080. which is way more than the game recommended specs

even it was equivalent to a 2080, the vtol is not GPU intensive but CPU intensive. They're lots of simulations that happen and simulation by its nature is very CPU intensive.

[XIII]

Originally posted by Quantum Entropy:

Quest 3 is on par with a rtx 2080. which is way more than the game recommended specs

Others explained a few things, but lets just take power usage:

An RTX 2080 has a top power usage of 250 watt.

A full Quest 3 is maybe about 25 watt power usage.

[grzegorz77]

Originally posted by XIII:

Originally posted by Quantum Entropy:

Quest 3 is on par with a rtx 2080. which is way more than the game recommended specs

Others explained a few things, but lets just take power usage:

An RTX 2080 has a top power usage of 250 watt.

A full Quest 3 is maybe about 25 watt power usage.

Very good observation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liVll-GVF3Q&t=257s
(Subtitles contain more than just an audio track)
(Quest 3 Dismantler Video)
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19,5 Wh

A quick check of the reviews showed that the quest 3 runs optimistically 2 hours, and using the ar cameras and wifi 1 hour.

So cpu + gpu (realistically it's one chip) consume 10W
(This is a very generous and very simplistic calculation)
Realistically, I assume that it will be about 6 W in continuous operation, maybe even less.

Maximum current consumption of all components (screens, cameras, integrated circuits) seems to be (estimated) not to exceed 16 W.

[XIII]

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

Very good observation :p2chell:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liVll-GVF3Q&t=257s
(Subtitles contain more than just an audio track)
(Quest 3 Dismantler Video)
=
19,5 Wh

A quick check of the reviews showed that the quest 3 runs optimistically 2 hours, and using the ar cameras and wifi 1 hour.

So cpu + gpu (realistically it's one chip) consume 10W
(This is a very generous and very simplistic calculation)
Realistically, I assume that it will be about 6 W in continuous operation, maybe even less.

Maximum current consumption of all components (screens, cameras, integrated circuits) seems to be (estimated) not to exceed 16 W.

Yup! Its honestly really impressive how much hardwarepower they get for such a "low" price and so little energy, but its also just not a lot in the end.

[grzegorz77]

Originally posted by XIII:

Originally posted by grzegorz77:

....

Yup! Its honestly really impressive how much hardwarepower they get for such a "low" price and so little energy, but its also just not a lot in the end.

I totally agree with you,
This is an impressive achievement, Qualcomp has delivered amazing technology.

It's a shame that facbook "saved" by rotating the screens and placing them diagonally.

For a ridiculously low price, we would have larger screens (placed horizontally), giving much better image quality. Facbook probably saved about $2 and we have a much worse quality image.

But I have to admit that I was much more impressed with quest 2.
And what's really impressive is the steam deck, which is an i386 processor. Not an ARM processor like the Quest designed from the beginning to be for low-current applications.
Let's remember that time is of the essence here.
The Quest 2 and deck were made earlier, the technology available was less advanced.