Still want an A-10 in VTOL

[Jawsman01]

Yeah, I know that this has been posted before. That MANY of us would STILL LOVE to fly an A-10 style aircraft here in VTOL. Been posted MANY times. I have read all of them too. They are such smart people. And cool people as well.
That means something by the way now doesn't it?

Think about it for at least a second or more... Lots of people have said they want to fly an A-10 in here. Hmmmn $$$. I have not read anyone wanting a trainer or electronic warfare style as much as I have read about those wanting an A-10. There sure is something desirous about that A-10. I bought the newest trainer and the chopper, but I sure would prefer an A-10.

Yes, been posted before and loved on and hated on. Those views that disagreed and argued against adding an A-10 meant nothing to me at all whatsoever. What folly to NOT want another world's best ground attack aircraft? That's an A-10 alright.
Yeah, A-10's are a pretty sweet ride. Smart people sure do love them.

When you have a fav fighter you just want to fly it. Period. And I want the A-10 in VTOL. Yup.
Not something kind of like it either like the dropship. No, much more like the A-10 mod.
The dropship is cool, but it just is not an A-10. But, I do fly it quite often.

Please do not hijack this thread with how another jet is already kind of like it etc, or rehash how the dev is doing what he wants introducing new content that he favors over what is repeatedly requested here and elsewhere.
We all have seena nd read that over and over. We got that point.

Been there, read that. Still do not care, I would really LOVE to fly the A-10 in this title. Dissenters have already bored me with weak arguments against having an A-10.
So unimpressive to NOT want one added. Life is too short to waste on such.

I did download the A-10 MOD once off the vtol mod loader site. It worked for about a day after I spent hours trying to get the site to download it correctly. Man, that site it a trainwtreck.
I have not been able to get it to update or download anything successfully all year from there since... A real shame too, as it sure brought NEW life to this sim for me. I reinstalled vtol just because of that A-10 mod and the mod loader site.

Regardless, if you hijack this thread trying to force everyone to hear your take on why an A-10 should not ever be added then you just do not want to play nice and respect what MANY of us have expressed already. Many times.

You could start your own thread called,
'Why people posting how much they would LOVE to fly an A-10 in VTOL are wrong'.
But then, that would be pretty disrespectful now wouldn't it?

Almost as bad as butting into a thread hijacking its intent to just disagree with the poster about how much they would love to fly an A-10 in VTOL. But, there are rude and uncaring people in the world, it could happen I suppose.

Many of us would LOVE to fly an A-10. Or one MUCH more like the A-10, like the Mod was, than what is in the sim already.

Me, I would LOVE to fly an A-10 in there. Yup, that would be a FINE aircraft.
A really sweet ride that A-10. I would pay perhaps $20 for such a fine aircraft as an A-10 alright.
Apparently quite a few other VTOL Investors have posted how much they would love one too. Kindred spirits now doubt. Good people I am sure of it☺!
Mmmmn Hmmmnnn.
☺

[Hijong park]

Jawsman01 eredeti hozzászólása:

Over the years I have attempted discord for a number of different games and game related things.
I estimate maybe 5 hours over the last 2 years or so. All a total waste of time. Discord is a chaotic cluster where nothing can ever be found and the people that are supposed to be there are not. Not once so far. Not one success on Discord at all. I hate the layout and the waste of time.

I thank you for the invite. I really do. But I don't have another half century in me to continue to expend on no return ventures☺.

If the devs have ANY ears, then they will know that what player base if left wants mod aircraft ability returned.
If they are smart they will buy or build the A-10, F117, F-16 and M2K available and adapt them.

If they are REALLY SMART they will reach out to airframe modders and get these aircraft back up and installed as some addon or DLC or something like Overload did.

If they are BRILLIANT then they will sell to devs that want to brig VTOL to its FULL POTENTIAL. And draw in a whole NEW playerbase with the ideas above and so much more☺

If they are not the above then in 6 more months a Wild Weasel will release to the few that still are around, and nothing more.

Let's admit that it won't happen and use energy and time on more valuable things.

Similarly, nobody would demand F-4 phantom in WW2 sims and F-35 in cold war era sims.

I would demand adding MD-500 TOW defender in VTOL VR if that was possible.

[Ketkev]

Jawsman01 eredeti hozzászólása:

If the devs have ANY ears, then they will know that what player base if left wants mod aircraft ability returned.
If they are smart they will buy or build the A-10, F117, F-16 and M2K available and adapt them.

What? Modding in aircraft is still possible. Bahamuto isn't doing anything to sabotage modding if that's what you think. He just changed something in the codebase while working on the recent update that the modded aircraft were relying on.

[Jawsman01]

Nah, totally 100% disagree with the above two posts and rest what I have repeatedly posted.

[Hijong park]

At least you have the legacy version to enjoy A-10.

Have you heard of strike fighters 2 ? Sounds like a perfect A-10 porn for you except the game is too old to support VR.

The game at least support TrackIR so vorpX can be worked.

It features well made dynamic campaign instead of VTOL VR's endless click labor nightmare that is mission editor.

[Jawsman01]

Hijong park eredeti hozzászólása:

At least you have the legacy version to enjoy A-10.

Have you heard of strike fighters 2 ? Sounds like a perfect A-10 porn for you except the game is too old to support VR.

The game at least support TrackIR so vorpX can be worked.

It features well made dynamic campaign instead of VTOL VR's endless click labor nightmare that is mission editor.

Sounds really familiar I will check it out. Thank you.☺

[Hijong park]

Yeah it's a must-have game for any sim-lite and cold war era fans.

[snarF]

NotEnderone eredeti hozzászólása:

an A-10 type plane would be amazing

Fly the AV 42

[Jawsman01]

Yes, again as I wrote a few times since the initial post, I have flown the daylights out of the AV-42 in lieu of the A-10, Thank you.

And yes to the other, I do enjoy a good sim-lite version as well as DCS and Falcon learning every button and function. There is fun to be found in most sims.☺

Everyone does have their personal favorites. So glad to get the rollback version of VTOL to be able to fly the A-10, F16 and other mod airframes in VTOL.
Very FUN.

[Ketkev]

Jawsman01 eredeti hozzászólása:

Nah, totally 100% disagree with the above two posts and rest what I have repeatedly posted.

You disagree with the fact that modding is still possible?

[Jawsman01]

The mods that we have talked about for 3 pages now are no longer compatible with this title and none that work today are listed in the workshop.

As well, many here have posted for pages already, on how those that provided the mod airframes left long ago and nobody has replaced them.

As revealed beginning on page 2, just to get a mod airframe to run you have to uninstall and reinstall to a much earlier edition of this tittle.

And no, since we have not discussed here for 3 pages other kinds of mods that I care nothing for like skins etc, then no, those have not and still are not what we have discussed here for 3 pages.

So yes, it does look like I said exactly that after all. Again.

[Hijong park]

What is your appeal about A-10 that other aircrafts in this game can't fit ?

Tank busting gatling gun ?

Being slow sub sonic jet ?

Or just the airframe ?

While i love AH-94 as it is, I hope there was a flight sim that rendered the clunky old AH-1J ~ S because I'm a big fan of its flat canopy and old school cockpit with folding helmet sight.

But realistically most flight sims did not covered various aircrafts.

Janes longbow is mainoy about longbow apache with blackhawk and kiowa as bonus.

Falcon series is all about F-16.

F-15 strike eagle series is about F-15 as the title says.

A-10 cuba is a dedicated A-10 sim.


And VTOL VR is, obviously as the title says, its main focus is the today and future's vertical take off capable aircrafts like osprey, F-35, and helicopter.

Personally I can't understand the dev's crazy mind of adding non VTOL capable F/A-26 and T-55, despite they don't even fit with the game's title. At least both are modern aircrafts.

But 2 most requested aircrafts, A-10 and F-14 are both way too old for the VTOL VR's time setting and don't fit with the game's title.

F-14 had already been retired decades ago, and let's admit, A-10 was considered to be useful because they were used against terrorists and insurgency (ISIS and Taliban) who don't have any advanced SAM systems.


After many hours in VTOL VR, I learned that this game's main enemies are radars and the radar integrated SAM systems. These are no joke.

If you exclude these enemies you just end up with boring missions of just destroying way too weak MBTs, APC, SAAW, and some infantries. All these enemies die instantly with several bursts of any cannons, it shows that they are not meant to be a main enemies but just cannon fodders.

And because of all these factors, I believe suggesting any cold war era aircrafts in this game just don't work.

At least Strike fighters 2 exists to make cold war era fans happy.

[teranto]

Correct me if i missed some points since this thread is so long,
Have you ever tried playing with friends or multiplayer? It really made the game way more fun for me.
Also, you constantly talk about vtol going from your harddrive, dont you have 2 GB space? vtol aint that big.
As many other stated, an a10 isnt that usefull in a modern battlefield. Look at Ukraine, Su25 get shot down left and right either trough manpads or sam sites.
Also, CAS can easily be done with the F/A-26, since it can carry alot of bombs and missiles, and has also really OP stuff like the CAGM-6, which is just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ aimbot.

[teranto]

And to all comments about the gun being OP in the AH94 and AV42, i think i heard somebody say that the dev will implement bulletdrag once.

[『 ❀ Rin ❀ 』]

As someone who is a tad frustrated with this game content wise and lack of mods I will say, what op says had some pretty good points. Not just for the a10, yes that's also a sweet soft spot for me, love the plane. Nothing you say will change that for me. I've seen it prove itself plenty of times.

But that's not gonna be my point for my comment, so I'll leave that there.

But my point for this comment is this...

I get that it's one dev, I understand updates take awhile, I also do know the game can be fun, but It also gets so boring after awhile doing the same stuff over and over again. Mods made it fun again for me though. Cause it added some realism, BUT also added silliness when I wanted it.

But here's the issue. The modding scene for this game is painfully barren. It feels like the modding community wanted to go wild but the dev got overly protective and made the community back off making new aircrafts for the game. I'd love some new helis, but it seems no one will touch it with a 10 inch pole now. Even tho it's simple, make mods not work for those who do not own the dlc. There's the solution.

I appreciated the new f14 clone that dropped, but just think of all the content we would have if the dev would just allow modders to go crazy. Yet it feels like modding is being heavily restricted in a sense.

Now, granted I may be misunderstanding the situation which is likely. But im only saying how it looks and feels.

Also, this game could look better and still run good. I will agree the graphics are an eye sore. I've gotten used to ignoring it, but man when you notice it again it's just... ugh. I've seen this game with weather, clouds, beautiful lighting, etc. But apparently it didn't work out, and performance wasn't good. But imagine it being optimized and then having such an amazing looking vr flight sim lite. Clouds alone would be amazing especially if it also affected ai.

I think this game lost a good chance to have amazing mods. Ever since the update that broke (unsure if it was intentional or just by-product of code changes mods required) aircraft mods, it's like the modders just said "♥♥♥♥ it, I'm out" and abandoned modding any further for this title.

Good example of this is the a10 mod, ik ik, I said I'd leave it way above, but this is an example. It's as far as I know now, it's abandoned. Either cause whatever changed made it way more of a pain in the ass to fix, or cause the modder lost interest in this game.

Like op said, interest is obviously being lost for this game. I love flight Sims, but even I'm losing interest. I'd love more variety in the game, weather, clouds, tiny bit better graphics, way better explosion and smoke effects (currently using a mod for this), and some more aircraft variety even if they do the same ♥♥♥♥ other aircrafts do. Although I'll reiterate, if there was more interest and less restrictions on the modding, we would already have way more content and most likely already have the things I just listed. But unfortunately I think this won't happen. Looking at how the mods that add content (not talking about missions and skins) are pretty much stagnate. It's likely most people just gave up and left.

Anyways, I think I made my points and vented my frustration.

Still disappointed now a days there is so many people who are literally against more content in the game though. Even if it said content is samey, it still would fit someone else's taste. People saying "no cause I don't like it" is the most selfish ♥♥♥♥ I've ever seen and speaks volumes about said person more than anything.

Rant over.

[Rockethead293]

you unfilled target water bottle the last post was almost a year ago
also you arent allowed to make helicopters and multicrew because those use paid elements