Animus pets not compatible with Summoner?

[Realms×Myths]

You remove their ability to attack with any sort of weapon, and then stop them from using the strongest attack pets? why? I wanted to equip a gaurdian and an animus, but I can only equip the gaurdian. Why limit the Animus from the summoner? We go through the trouble of beating a boss on insane or nightmare, and then find out it's limited to certain heroes? Please let the summoner use ALL pets, or update the hero DLCs to include Animus and Gaurdian variations of all of them. Also, it's odd seeing Huntress ending when soloing as ranger, EV, or jester. The DLC heroes could use their own endings, though that's not as big a problem.

[Tydo]

Animus pets are NOT the best or strongest dps pets, your knowledge is outdated.

As for the limitation, try to think of it another way:
Animus are limited to the 4 weapon groups (1 for each of the 4 original heroes).
The summoner is not allowed to use any weapons and thus not any of the animus.
The other DLC heros have access to (some of) the 4 groups and the associated animus.

From the p.o.v. of highend stomping enemies it does not matter, there are better options. However i would agree that it is a foolish limitation with next to no 'lore' excuse that would not be contradicted by e.g. jester and EV being allowed to have them.

[Realms×Myths]

exactly. There's no reason a Summoner shouldn't be allowed to use them.

[asas2007]

hmmm ... cant he use the apprantice animus? i think summoner is classified as an apprantice in the sense of rewards ?

[Realms×Myths]

It was an apprentice I was trying to use. Jester, Aprentice, Adept, and EV are the only ones that can use that one. Huntress - Huntress, Jester, EV, Ranger; Squire - Squire, Jester, Countess, Barbarian; Monk - Monk, Jester, Initiate, and Barbarian. summoner has access to no Animus. Oddly, the Guardians have no such limitation, and can be freely used by any class. I thought it would be epic to have a gaurdian over one shoulder, and an animus over the other, but with sideways logic as limiting the Animus to users of their weapon types, with a) no lore, and b) no restriction on the Gaurdians, it's just weird. And if you add lore, how will you explain EV, Jester, and Barbarian? Shouldn't all 12 hero classes get their own gaurian and animus?

All I can say is; 'Uguu…'

[digyyy]

Those are animuses for original characters or their male/female counterparts. They would lose their point if 'Apprentice Guardian' was given to Summoner.

They are by far not the best pet in the game, not stat nor dps wise. Best DPS would be Mega Chicken or Sea Horse(because it's easier to farm) and best tower pet would be Kobold or Diamond.

[pew pew pew]

Messaggio originale di Tydo:

Animus pets are NOT the best or strongest dps pets, your knowledge is outdated.

As for the limitation, try to think of it another way:
Animus are limited to the 4 weapon groups (1 for each of the 4 original heroes).
The summoner is not allowed to use any weapons and thus not any of the animus.
The other DLC heros have access to (some of) the 4 groups and the associated animus.

From the p.o.v. of highend stomping enemies it does not matter, there are better options. However i would agree that it is a foolish limitation with next to no 'lore' excuse that would not be contradicted by e.g. jester and EV being allowed to have them.

[Realms×Myths]

Messaggio originale di DiGy:

Those are animuses for original characters or their male/female counterparts. They would lose their point if 'Apprentice Guardian' was given to Summoner.

Then why can the EV, Jester, and Barbarian use them?

[ChaosDad]

Messaggio originale di Otaku-chan:

Messaggio originale di DiGy:

Those are animuses for original characters or their male/female counterparts. They would lose their point if 'Apprentice Guardian' was given to Summoner.

Then why can the EV, Jester, and Barbarian use them?

I'm guessing because the animus's restrictions are tied to weapon class restrictions. Summoner has no weapon class. Kind of like Tydo said in the first reply.

[digyyy]

Messaggio originale di BigHead:

Messaggio originale di Otaku-chan:

Then why can the EV, Jester, and Barbarian use them?

I'm guessing because the animus's restrictions are tied to weapon class restrictions. Summoner has no weapon class. Kind of like Tydo said in the first reply.

My mistake, I meant weapon classes, not male/female counterparts. But yeah, Summoner would be good if he even didn't have any pets equipped.

[Tydo]

I'd hate that. I have 2 Very good kobolds on mine. In total that would be a loss of 1000-1100 minion health and 1200 minion attack, and a lot of rate&range.
And that would pretty much break the ability to do a lot of NM survival runs.

[Realms×Myths]

Well, thanks for all the replies. It really doesn't make sense though.

The reason I brought this up was because I wanted a guardian on one shoulder, and an animus over the other. Like anime, or Ultimate Spiderman.

@Tydo: Are you able to solo any NM runs?

[Tydo]

Yes like so many others, but not all maps. Not even all that impressive builders, mostly myth with a few transcendent pieces. I guess 3pew will show up in a moment and lecture you about gear. Suffice to say you can go a long way with myth gear.

[Realms×Myths]

Meh. I'm not competitive, not really.

I like to play the game for fun.

I haven't played pokémon in a while because everyone is all whiny about how bad I am at the game. There's only two goals in the game: beat the E4, and collect all the pokémon.

[pew pew pew]

Messaggio originale di Tydo:

Yes like so many others, but not all maps. Not even all that impressive builders, mostly myth with a few transcendent pieces. I guess 3pew will show up in a moment and lecture you about gear. Suffice to say you can go a long way with myth gear.

Indeed, mythical gear is underestimated.

Although you just started Otaku-chan I suggest to take a look at the guide below. It will give you some ideas how to prepare your heroes for Nightmare difficulty. For sure you are able to play a lot (if not all) on an easier difficulty.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=216908696

[ChaosDad]

Messaggio originale di Otaku-chan:

Meh. I'm not competitive, not really.

I like to play the game for fun.

I haven't played pokémon in a while because everyone is all whiny about how bad I am at the game. There's only two goals in the game: beat the E4, and collect all the pokémon.

That's the kind of talk I like to hear.

As for mythical gear, yeah it really is underrated. I've got a couple characters with stats at 1000 just off of gear, and most of my gear is mythical. It takes time but you really can find some nice myth gear if you keep at it.