Is there a way to reorganize your heros?

[Azrik]

It's gotten rather random in my heros box. Is there a way to change the order they appear in without having to delete them?

[SCE_Genesis985]

yeah, last i checked you select a character then you hold either shift alt or ctrl and then you select the toon you want to swap spots with

[pew pew pew]

Welcome Defenders,

I am going to show you how you are able to rearrange your heroes on the selection screen. It will be done within of seconds.

Step 1: Select the hero which you want to move.
Step 2: Press and hold ALT
Step 3: Select the hero which you want to move with.


You are also able to rearrange heroes of different pages.

Step 1: Select the hero which you want to move.
Step 2: Press and hold ALT
Step 3: Switch to another page
Step 4: Select the hero which you want to move with.

Note: You can not switch a hero of the same slot e.g. 2nd hero of page one with 2nd hero of page two. If you want to rearrange 2 heroes of the same slot you have to move one hero into another slot of the same page.

I hope this gave you some assistance.

Enjoy the game :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yJfRRZBu1I

[Azrik]

Thanks

[Veetoo]

Yup thx, I forgot how to switch heroes of different pages :D

[Tydo]

Originally posted by pew pew pew:

If you want to rearrange 2 heroes of the same slot you have to move one hero into another slot of the same page.

That is another fine example of the sloppy UI work they did - besides building in a item stealing feature.
Clearly checking against same position always, instead of just when on the same page.
Did
If (targetindex==sourceindex) do nothing
instead of
if (targetpage==sourcepage && targetindex==sourceindex) do nothing

and why wasnt it just a flat index calculation... then the whole page logic check would be superfluous.
character[0..23]
instead of
page[0..2].character[0..7]

Another 'fun' one is the broken upgrade logic, which fortunately only becomes apparent on accessories.
As you may know, if the upgrade cost exceeds 2^31, it wraps to negative, making the cost zero.
However, there is a gap.
Max mana is 2,000,000,000. However 2^31 is 2,147,483,648.
If the upgrade cost lands in that gap, it effectively becomes impossible to upgrade it further. The problem:
Someone put in a cost=max(0,cost), to avoid upgrades giving back mana (negative costs) but failed to consider the gap. What they should have done: cost=min(cost,mana_cap) and a less extreme cost-ramp.

edit: fixed bad number.

[asas2007]

hmmm... though if it did fall in that gap would it be impossible to upgrade even with invest all <_<?

[Tydo]

Dunno, but it wont work with 'pro mode'.
I doubt that 'invest all' works, as that would do the same as 'pro'.
It might work with doing gradual investing (the slow way). Try it on open with a manamap and see if it works.

[pew pew pew]

That's why upgrading will be free once you hit 2b mana for Supreme accessories. For lower quality accessories it will be also free if you hit the 32 bit limit, so like Tydo said 2^31 :)

[asas2007]

well i use invest all to avoid losing mana <_<
selling 2 tokens each time
invest all well use all the mana in your bank till it upgrades
unfortunatly i wasnt lucky to get such an acc .. yet :P so testing is out of questoin ^^

[pew pew pew]

What kind of acc are you talking about? Godly with 150ish upgrades? Play some Lab Assualts :)

[asas2007]

I see 150^ godly acc <_< shall try it later :P anyhow seems like we did went out of topic in this thread did we not :P

[Tydo]

Originally posted by asas2007:

unfortunatly i wasnt lucky to get such an acc .. yet :P so testing is out of questoin ^^

I just stumbled upon the problem during my preparations for the final PC event, when i used a manamap on open to 100% max my exported gear. By chance one of them happened to be one of those hitting the gap.
It took a disgusting amount of billions of mana, but hey, on open......

[WhaleShark]

TEN YEARS later this guide is helpful. Thank God for the internet.

[zero254]

Honestly, info like this should be pinned