Ruthless Difficulty

[yamaneko]

What tower damage stat do I need to clear The Deeper Well?
I finally finished the summit with nightmare difficulty a few months ago.
My character's average tower damage stat is 2000.
The transition from insane to nightmare wasn't too hard, so I tried ruthless and could barely kill one enemy at wave 1...

[dgamefather™]

I have 6k on some of my builders and I struggle on Deeper Well on Ruthless. It's definitely a jump from Nightmare for sure

[yamaneko]

I nearly fainted when I heard that.

[stealthkiller22]

Originally posted by yamaneko:

I nearly fainted when I heard that.

dont need 6k for the campaign would need it for survival. you prob want 3 to 4k

[yamaneko]

How do i upgrade gears to 3k stats ?

[stealthkiller22]

Originally posted by yamaneko:

How do i upgrade gears to 3k stats ?

either farm survival the hard way or buy from afk shops

[JoonJuby]

Farm. You can easily gain 1400+ stats alone from levels and a pet. Easiest is just get a fish from moonbase. The other 1600 from high myth or trans gear. At that point 3k is able to do most NM content. Having a good aura monk or dps makes pushing further easier.

[yamaneko]

Originally posted by stealthkiller22:

Originally posted by yamaneko:

How do i upgrade gears to 3k stats ?

either farm survival the hard way or buy from afk shops

I did not know about AFK shop. i just checked shop item, unfortunately i could not find good myth or trans items. but i'll keep it check. thank you.

[yamaneko]

Originally posted by JoonJuby:

Farm. You can easily gain 1400+ stats alone from levels and a pet. Easiest is just get a fish from moonbase. The other 1600 from high myth or trans gear. At that point 3k is able to do most NM content. Having a good aura monk or dps makes pushing further easier.

I followed steam guide "chiku's progression guide" so i already have seven or eight fish.
I'm struggle getting high myth or trans items.
I tried step 7 Dread Dungeon NMHCSVMM but i failed on wave 23.
because i did not use tower stacking method. i thought it's glitch or exploit so i did not follow. i found useful trans and supreme but really rare. I'm tired.
I'm checking AFK shops now. i need leveling too, i think.

[No One You Know]

Originally posted by yamaneko:

Originally posted by JoonJuby:

Farm. You can easily gain 1400+ stats alone from levels and a pet. Easiest is just get a fish from moonbase. The other 1600 from high myth or trans gear. At that point 3k is able to do most NM content. Having a good aura monk or dps makes pushing further easier.

I followed steam guide "chiku's progression guide" so i already have seven or eight fish.
I'm struggle getting high myth or trans items.
I tried step 7 Dread Dungeon NMHCSVMM but i failed on wave 23.
because i did not use tower stacking method. i thought it's glitch or exploit so i did not follow. i found useful trans and supreme but really rare. I'm tired.
I'm checking AFK shops now. i need leveling too, i think.

I'm using Chiko's guide, there is no tower stacking at all. Watch the Youtube videos if you're falling apart.
I, and he, recommends genie pet and some sort of build that lets you 5 star the towers fast. I use a lupine bow Jester or Huntress for this and have had no failures wave 25/25.
TL&DR Chiko's guide has no stacking towers.

[yamaneko]

Originally posted by No One You Know:

Originally posted by yamaneko:

I followed steam guide "chiku's progression guide" so i already have seven or eight fish.
I'm struggle getting high myth or trans items.
I tried step 7 Dread Dungeon NMHCSVMM but i failed on wave 23.
because i did not use tower stacking method. i thought it's glitch or exploit so i did not follow. i found useful trans and supreme but really rare. I'm tired.
I'm checking AFK shops now. i need leveling too, i think.

I'm using Chiko's guide, there is no tower stacking at all. Watch the Youtube videos if you're falling apart.
I, and he, recommends genie pet and some sort of build that lets you 5 star the towers fast. I use a lupine bow Jester or Huntress for this and have had no failures wave 25/25.
TL&DR Chiko's guide has no stacking towers.

oh, really ? 1:30:13
https://youtu.be/mkRaata2Ij8?si=7Pm5ZY5eqqHZurTb&t=5413

[No One You Know]

Originally posted by yamaneko:

Originally posted by No One You Know:

I'm using Chiko's guide, there is no tower stacking at all. Watch the Youtube videos if you're falling apart.
I, and he, recommends genie pet and some sort of build that lets you 5 star the towers fast. I use a lupine bow Jester or Huntress for this and have had no failures wave 25/25.
TL&DR Chiko's guide has no stacking towers.

oh, really ? 1:30:13
https://youtu.be/mkRaata2Ij8?si=7Pm5ZY5eqqHZurTb&t=5413

Really, I don't know what you think tower stacking is. The towers are all next to each other and not stacked on top of each other.
I have no issues running the map and I place the towers next to each other just like he does, there's no tower stacking.
What do you think tower stacking is?

[yamaneko]

Originally posted by No One You Know:

Originally posted by yamaneko:

oh, really ? 1:30:13
https://youtu.be/mkRaata2Ij8?si=7Pm5ZY5eqqHZurTb&t=5413

Really, I don't know what you think tower stacking is. The towers are all next to each other and not stacked on top of each other.
I have no issues running the map and I place the towers next to each other just like he does, there's no tower stacking.
What do you think tower stacking is?

this thread is not focus about tower stacking. stay calm.

[JoonJuby]

Originally posted by yamaneko:

Originally posted by JoonJuby:

Farm. You can easily gain 1400+ stats alone from levels and a pet. Easiest is just get a fish from moonbase. The other 1600 from high myth or trans gear. At that point 3k is able to do most NM content. Having a good aura monk or dps makes pushing further easier.

I followed steam guide "chiku's progression guide" so i already have seven or eight fish.
I'm struggle getting high myth or trans items.
I tried step 7 Dread Dungeon NMHCSVMM but i failed on wave 23.
because i did not use tower stacking method. i thought it's glitch or exploit so i did not follow. i found useful trans and supreme but really rare. I'm tired.
I'm checking AFK shops now. i need leveling too, i think.

Honestly, I find aquanos or sky city to be much easier to farm. Mainly bc of the high amount of DU/MU. Sky city is also kinda cheesy bc you only need to defend one core by stacking traps+auras at the other 2. Letting you funnel to one core due to ogre pathing. If stats are good and using tower stacks you can build on the stairs in the center with LT.

Kings game is also pretty easy. easier with cheese stack but doable without. A simple minion wall with aura stack+gas and placing towers behind facing toward crystal to hit the opposite lane. Ogres get stuck at minion wall. Harps/Fireball is great here.

Some maps are easier with a extra char being a summoner with a app+hunt guardian or a monk guardian and placing them on an aura stack freeing up DU to cover multiple lanes.

[No One You Know]

Originally posted by JoonJuby:

Originally posted by yamaneko:

I followed steam guide "chiku's progression guide" so i already have seven or eight fish.
I'm struggle getting high myth or trans items.
I tried step 7 Dread Dungeon NMHCSVMM but i failed on wave 23.
because i did not use tower stacking method. i thought it's glitch or exploit so i did not follow. i found useful trans and supreme but really rare. I'm tired.
I'm checking AFK shops now. i need leveling too, i think.

Honestly, I find aquanos or sky city to be much easier to farm. Mainly bc of the high amount of DU/MU. Sky city is also kinda cheesy bc you only need to defend one core by stacking traps+auras at the other 2. Letting you funnel to one core due to ogre pathing. If stats are good and using tower stacks you can build on the stairs in the center with LT.

Kings game is also pretty easy. easier with cheese stack but doable without. A simple minion wall with aura stack+gas and placing towers behind facing toward crystal to hit the opposite lane. Ogres get stuck at minion wall. Harps/Fireball is great here.

Some maps are easier with a extra char being a summoner with a app+hunt guardian or a monk guardian and placing them on an aura stack freeing up DU to cover multiple lanes.

I can't seem to do King's Game NM HC Campaign. I run out of time before I can build everything and get my cheeks clapped on wave 1, I also don't have a dps character.

[yamaneko]

Originally posted by JoonJuby:

Originally posted by yamaneko:

I followed steam guide "chiku's progression guide" so i already have seven or eight fish.
I'm struggle getting high myth or trans items.
I tried step 7 Dread Dungeon NMHCSVMM but i failed on wave 23.
because i did not use tower stacking method. i thought it's glitch or exploit so i did not follow. i found useful trans and supreme but really rare. I'm tired.
I'm checking AFK shops now. i need leveling too, i think.

Honestly, I find aquanos or sky city to be much easier to farm. Mainly bc of the high amount of DU/MU. Sky city is also kinda cheesy bc you only need to defend one core by stacking traps+auras at the other 2. Letting you funnel to one core due to ogre pathing. If stats are good and using tower stacks you can build on the stairs in the center with LT.

Kings game is also pretty easy. easier with cheese stack but doable without. A simple minion wall with aura stack+gas and placing towers behind facing toward crystal to hit the opposite lane. Ogres get stuck at minion wall. Harps/Fireball is great here.

Some maps are easier with a extra char being a summoner with a app+hunt guardian or a monk guardian and placing them on an aura stack freeing up DU to cover multiple lanes.

I tried King's game before and cleared it once. However, my builder was slow and I almost ran out of time in the build phase. i forgot about loot.
I'll look into Aquanos and Sky City.