Playthrough without Stacking Towers Possible?

[obiner]

Yea Question aboth. I personally think the whole Stacking Tower thing is not my valid option to do even when its okay to use it. But it is not intendet to be the meta.

But there is another Question that burns me. Is it even Possible to Build without Stacking at some maps? I mean they come in new and stacking was already a thing so i dunno about that.

When Yes, in DDP it mostly shop Stacking Options but not normal builds sadly

[Bearishion]

I personally never learned how to stack so just playing normally solo ive beaten all base and dlc story maps no stacking some of the challenge maps too (moonbase and akahiti(?) jungle are the ones that took me the longest) so id imagine theres plenty of ways to beat just about if not all maps without stacking

[obiner]

Thats why i ask, the normal maps are yea probably easy... i mean some maps like ruins or omanek ( or howerer they named that xD) i only see builds for that with stacking.. Moonbase was relativly easy without stacking

[Tydo]

Vanilla + the main DLC expansion (etheria shards + old one) definitely doable without stacking. Those are all official maps made by TE.
Some of the later added maps are unfortunately made by "community experts" who themselves were stack-happy, so you will find some maps next to impossible without it.

It is age old problem. It got 'established' as common practice and became one of those things that TE did not dare touch. Much like they left the cheating run rampant.
For the etheria shard maps it can be convenient (sky city turtling on middle crystal). On the other shard maps you will mostly be forced to spread out to block paths without enough DU to even consider stacking.

[obiner]

Yes, it's a shame that the community can no longer do without their "cheat" and everything has developed to the point where you have to use stacking to really be able to complete everything. I think it looks exactly the same on Redux or is it worth changing?

[Softspokenman]

the new towers make the game a lot easier but people have always relied on cheats exploits and glitches in this game its not new or different in that way

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

I've seen people play late game without tower stacking just fine. It's 100% possible.

[Hai]

Stacking only saves 2 DU and build time for the most maps. That's all.

[obiner]

Nah, i disagree. It not save 2 du and Build Time. It mostly safes Space and thats by far the best benefit. You dont need to adjust 8 Lightning Tower in a beam. Instead Stacking 8 in one Tiny Space in Ruins as example.

You need in the most Endgame survival maps an entire new Build when you are not Stack

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

Originally posted by obiner:

Nah, i disagree. It not save 2 du and Build Time. It mostly safes Space and thats by far the best benefit. You dont need to adjust 8 Lightning Tower in a beam. Instead Stacking 8 in one Tiny Space in Ruins as example.

You need in the most Endgame survival maps an entire new Build when you are not Stack

You literally just said
"It doesn't save time, it saves time"

Not having to adjust 8 LTs on a buff beam SAVES TIME. lol

[obiner]

Originally posted by Mysterious Sir K:

Originally posted by obiner:

Nah, i disagree. It not save 2 du and Build Time. It mostly safes Space and thats by far the best benefit. You dont need to adjust 8 Lightning Tower in a beam. Instead Stacking 8 in one Tiny Space in Ruins as example.

You need in the most Endgame survival maps an entire new Build when you are not Stack

You literally just said
"It doesn't save time, it saves time"

Not having to adjust 8 LTs on a buff beam SAVES TIME. lol

Huh? I said it stacking safes SPACE not Time. In survival Time does not matter.
You need to adjust the whole Build to maybe another part of the Map because the Space did not function. Yea clearly safes Stacking time, but time is not the issue. Space is the issue.

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

Originally posted by obiner:

Huh? I said it stacking safes SPACE not Time. In survival Time does not matter.
You need to adjust the whole Build to maybe another part of the Map because the Space did not function. Yea clearly safes Stacking time, but time is not the issue. Space is the issue.

Basically what you're trying to say is that it allows for new builds, being able to fit loads of DPS towers in smaller locations. Which is true.

[obiner]

No the Thread is about the Question, if it is possible to do the newer maps without Stacking, because around 99% of Guilds or DDP are WITH stacking.
They are not official maps from Trendy. So the Community Devs have in hand and when Stacking is well accepted they dare to touch that field of gameplay to "fix" this not Intendet to be bug.

The problem i have is that even with higher Stats, when there is no space to build the "guids" like intendet with stacking you need a entire new Build because the Space to put that whole stuff in one place does not Fit most of the time.


We Try it a few times without Stacking but its way to hard,
The other mate got it easy with stacking and his builder is way worse then mine.

[Mysterious Sir Knight]

Originally posted by obiner:

No the Thread is about the Question, if it is possible to do the newer maps without Stacking, because around 99% of Guilds or DDP are WITH stacking.
They are not official maps from Trendy. So the Community Devs have in hand and when Stacking is well accepted they dare to touch that field of gameplay to "fix" this not Intendet to be bug.

The problem i have is that even with higher Stats, when there is no space to build the "guids" like intendet with stacking you need a entire new Build because the Space to put that whole stuff in one place does not Fit most of the time.


We Try it a few times without Stacking but its way to hard,
The other mate got it easy with stacking and his builder is way worse then mine.

Ehh, I've seen some really skilled no-stacking players that make it work perfectly fine.

[Xengre]

Stacking is mostly for convenience and compressing space for easier placement of reflects, fitting buff beam easier, and placement in contrast to environment / walls (physical/minion) while avoiding being in range of ogre attacks. It also helps with standing near the stacks for summoner pet tower buffing, and in rare cases it can spare you a few extra DU depending on setup but not much. Overall, stacking doesn't actually make it "easier", at least not extensively. It is mighty convenient, though. Overall, with the range you can get on lightning/DST towers you can always work something out.

No idea about guides as I always used my own builds.

[obiner]

Yea thats not the "bad" point i have with stacking. As said, the DU are not my Primary Point. The Space is my main Point what changed whole Builds sometimes. I can fit 6 lightning in a 4 DU Beam thats not the problem. But in some Builds there are not the space normaly for 6-8 Lightning in that place. So you cant use the Place or Build to du because of the Space.

In the Most endfarm Build you are nearly neccecary MUST do Stacking. And it is not just me, but because its normaly not indendet it feels wrong for me to use it. And i dont like that feeling.
Yea i know its a me problem, but it feels like cheating.