Seulessliathan´s Farming List

[Seulessliathan]

Armor:
Moonbase NMHC survival (+MM, optional) -- 1 Crystal build.
Maybe King's Game NMHCMM survival and Aquanos NMHCMM survival if you can't do Moonbase, yet.

DPS Weapons:
Moonbase -- Monk, Apprentice, Huntress
Crystalline Dimension -- Monk, Huntress, Squire.
Embermount Volcano -- Apprentice, Squire, Huntress(?).
Akatiti Jungle -- Monk, Squire.
SkyCity -- Monk, Squire.
Temple of Water -- Apprentice, Squire.
Buccaneer Bay -- Squire.
Tinkerer's Lab -- Huntress.
Temple of Polybius -- Monk.

Hero / Tower Stat Weapons:
Moonbase -- All 4.
Embermount Volcano -- All 4.
Akatiti Jungle -- Monk, Squire, Apprentice.
Temple of Water -- Apprentice, Squire.
Buccaneer Bay -- Squire, Huntress.
Temple of Polybius -- Monk, Huntress.
Aquanos on Survival? for all 4 classes.
Sky City on Survival? for all 4 classes.

DPS Pets:
Tinkerer's Lab Insane HC, or NMHC Wave 35 reward -- Mega Chicken.
Embermount Volcano NMHC Wave 30 and Wave 35 rewards -- Ember Pony and Fenix, respectively.
Aquanos NMHC Wave 20 reward -- Seahorse.
Temple of Water NMHC Wave 30 reward -- Seahorse(will roll better than Aquanos, but map is hard).
Maybe Monkey(Akatiti Wave 25) and Parrot(Buccaneer Bay Wave 25)

Hero/Tower Stat Pets:
Moonbase Campaign/Survival(Wave 35 Completion) reward for doing DDR Machine -- Fishbowl. [Soft cap 500, can roll 600] [Usable at level 70]
Moonbase Campaign/Survival(Wave 35 Completion) reward for doing DDR Machine with 42 Score -- Treadmill on Treadmill. [Soft cap 700, can roll 800] [Usable at level 100]
Embermount Volcano Survival(Wave 40 Completion) reward -- Animorphic Ember. [Soft cap 800, can roll 825] [Usable at level 100]
Temple of Water Survival(Wave 35 Completion) reward -- Sea Turtle on a Treadmill. [Soft cap 750,I think? Yet to farm one] [Usable at level 90, I think.]
Buccaneer Bay Survival(Wave 35 Completion) reward -- Pirate Skeleton on a Treadmill. [Soft cap 650] [Usable at level 83]

Non-DPS Boost/Healing Pet:
Temple of Water NMHC Wave 25 reward -- Fairy, can roll Ult more commonly now. %%
Sky City NMHC Wave 25 reward -- Propeller Cat.


Accessories:
Temple O' Love -- Full set, minus Shield.
Winter Wonderland / Silent Night -- Full set, minus Shield.
Greater Turkey Hunt 2 -- Hat, Mask and Shield.
Embermount Volcano -- Full set, minus Shield.
Pirate Invasion -- Mask.
Palantir -- Full set, including Shield. mid tier for stats.
Crystalline Dimension -- Full set, including Shield. low-mid tier for stats.
Lab Assault for low - mid level accessories.

Coal:
Winter Wonderland for coal

[Seulessliathan]

Sorted by modus:

Campaign Map Farming:
Emermount for DPS weapons and Really good Accesories.
Moonbase for early NM stat weapons and pets. ToT for late game.
Akatiti for great Stat Weapons.
Buccaneer Bay for great Stat Weapons.
Winter Wonderland for coal.
Tinkerers Lab for Stat Blasters, as they give a 10% speed boost.
Temple of Water for decent weapons.

Survival:
Embermount for reward weapons(easier to do this 4 player than the boss) and Animorphic.
Moonbase NMHC(MM) for armor. MM is easier, but drops less gear.
Tavern Defense, Winter Wonderland, Buccaneer Bay for Treadmills.
Tinkerer´s Lab for Chickens.
Temple of Water for great Fairies and Seahorses.
Akatiti for Cowboy Monkeys.

Challenges:
Lab Assault for early NM progression.
Polybius for great monk DPS/Stat weapon.
PIrate Invasion for the best mana possible.
ToL for great Accesories.
Greater Turkey Hunt for accesories.

nowadays outclassed by others:
Sky City Campaign (Steam Saw)
Boss Rush (Eagle Crested Standard)
Aquanos Survival (Seahorse)
Kings Game (Pawnshot)

Farm Genies on Moonbase, and if you can do ToW survival, farm it for fairies, if not, play Moonbase.


Survival maps:

Ember Mount (Armor/Pets)
Winter Wonderland (Armor/Pet)
King´s Game (Armor)
Moon Base (Armor/Pets)
Buc Bay (Armor/Pets)
Akatiti (Pet/Armor)

[Seulessliathan]

From my memory of what i have heard on forum, please correct my mistakes and add what i have missed.
This is primary for players like me who have from 2-3k build stats up to 5-6k tower damage, 2-3k side stats with some medicore to good dps chars.

Campaign Maps:

Ember Mount (Weps/Accs/Pets)
Akatiti (Weps/Pets)
Winter Wonderland (Pets/Accs/Coal)
Temple of Love (Pets/Accs)
Greater Turkey Hunt 2 (Accs/Pets)
Moonbase (Weps/Pets)
Buc Bay (Weps/Pets)


worth mentioning:
Sky City (Steam Saw)
Kings Game (Pawnshot)
Tinkerers Lab (Blaster Rifle)




Survival maps:

Ember Mount (Armor/Pets)
Winter Wonderland (Armor/Pet)
King´s Game (Armor)
Moon Base (Armor/Pets)
Buc Bay (Armor/Pets)
Akatiti (Pet/Armor)


Tinkerers Lab Mega Chicken
Aquanos Seahorse


Challenges:
Lab Assault (Armor, Accs)
Pirate Invasion (Acc/Mana)
Boss Rush (Eagle Crested Standard)
what about Polybius?

Pure Strategy:
Tavern Defense (XP)

[Black Mambo № 5]

This discussion somewhat addresses most of your questions:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/65800/discussions/0/1692659769949617047/#c1692659769949712842

[SerOffline-Alot]

Because it's rather long, I will try to cover it all in my own opinion.

All maps should be farmed on NMHC. The end of survival rewards are sometimes very similar, but NM gives you much more mana, thus, becoming a bonus.

Mix Mode does increase loot quality(specifically, the multiplier for loot quality) very slightly. It doesn't hurt too have MM on. There is one exception to this, which is Moonbase. Moonbase has Mini-ogres on Survival with MM off, and ogres have a much higher chance of dropping loot than other enemies, so the 5k+ ogres over the course of survival could potentially be 5k+ extra items, giving you more chances to get high quality gear.

Campaign Map Farming:
Emermount for DPS weapons and Really good Accesories.
Moonbase for early NM stat weapons and pets. ToT for late game.
Akatiti for great Stat Weapons.
Buccaneer Bay for great Stat Weapons.
WW for coal.
TL for Stat Blasters, as they give a 10% speed boost.
ToW for decent weapons.

Farm Genies on Moonbase, and if you can do ToW survival, farm it for fairies, if not, play Moonbase.

Survival:
Embermount for reward weapons(easier to do this 4 player than the boss) and Animorphic.
Moonbase NMHC(MM) for armour. MM is easier, but drops less gear.
TD, WW, Bucc for Treadmills.
TL for Chickens.
ToW for great Fairies and Seahorses.
Akatiti for Cowboy Monkeys.

Challenges:
Lab Assault for early NM progression.
Polybius for great monk DPS/Stat weapon.
PIrate Invasion for the best mana possible.
Boss rush, if you can be bothered attempting to get an Ult Crested. Fusion Rift/Ember Sceptre are better in every way.
ToL for great Accesories.
Greater Turkey Hunt for accesories.

[Veetoo]

WW also give great Accessoires. The candy bracers can spawn very high when lucky enough (400 +stats)

[SerOffline-Alot]

Escrito originalmente por VeeToO:

WW also give great Accessoires. The candy bracers can spawn very high when lucky enough (400 +stats)

Yea, if you are lucky enough. Through my Diamond run, I got only a few use-able Accesories, all of which, had stats ranging between 100-250. Some would spawn with stats as high as 350, but all the important ones would be negative 300. Guess with good RNG you could have quad 300. ToL and Embermount are still the best bet for Accesories.

[RedKirby]

Pawnshot and classics are outclassed ( by blaster, ember scepter and fusion rift) in every way so no need to farm them at all.

Survival ww is terrible in general and the pet reward is severely outclassed now.

Tow survival gives better seahorse if you can finish wave 29.

[Washy]

Escrito originalmente por SerOfflineAlot:

ToL and Embermount are still the best bet for Accesories.

WW and Embermount are on the same level in terms of Accesories, if you're farming them just for Accesories then is doesn't make a difference.

[SerOffline-Alot]

That's RNG kicking me right in the nuts again.

[🐇]

Escrito originalmente por Washboard:

WW and Embermount are on the same level in terms of Accesories, if you're farming them just for Accesories then is doesn't make a difference.

Two things you might want to think about:

1. What is the range of numbers an item can roll to?
2. How high is the AVERAGE roll biased to, within that range?

Consider WW/ToL bracers versus Ember bracers. They can roll to the same #s, but on average the WW/ToL bracers will roll 30 points higher on each stat. Similarly, the ToL mask rolls 47 points higher on average than the Ember mask.

Escrito originalmente por SerOffline-Alot:

That's RNG kicking me right in the nuts again.

On that note, items which roll higher also roll negative more often. The ToL mask is by far the best rolling mask in the game, but it's also the most likely to roll negative (at 60% negative chance). Still worth it, though.

[Seulessliathan]

Which maps/settings are good for sup/ult Armor farming?

Moonbase Survival?
King´s Game Survival?
still Lab Assault?
any other survival map? Ember?

And are the Seahorses from ToW better than Aquanos Seahorses?

[SerOffline-Alot]

Moonbase is the best. It has the highest Ults per hour, therefore, the highest chance at a good Ult.
Each drops thr same quality, but MB does it faster.

[Black Mambo № 5]

Escrito originalmente por Seulessliathan:

And are the Seahorses from ToW better than Aquanos Seahorses?

Yes.