Treadmill pet questions

[SerOffline-Alot]

in WW survival at the moment(Wave 30) and I'm wondering what the other Treadmill pets are like
The order of Best to worsed from what I can tell goes: ToT, Sea Turtle, Skeletons(both), Kobolds, Normal Turtles, then Giraffes(Not sure if I'm missing any). I know how good the ToT's are, im using 2 capped ones now. But I have never had the Skeletons(Bucc and WW) or Sea Turtle(From ToW), how good are they? what are the speed boosts? whats the best difficulty to farm the Skele's?

[Black Mambo № 5]

Best to worst(slightly updated):
1. ToT
2. Sea Turtle
3. Pirate Skelly (cap is 650 as opposed to 600 on Skelly)
4. Skelly
5. Kobold
6. Turtle
7. Giraffe

Speed Bonus:
ToT = 1.45x
Sea Turtle = 1.25x
Pirate Skelly = 1.15x
Skelly = 1.15x
Turtle = 1.25x
(Source)

Best difficulty to farm Skellys:
- Pirate Skelly = NMHC. At least I've only done this on NMHC, and haven't had a bad one, almost always I get 2 or 3 1 or 2 capping ones with good side stats.
- Regular Skelly = Insane(+HC). NMHC Skellys roll like crap. Same as Kobolds.
- Sea Turtle = No Idea. Haven't attempted the map on Survival so far, maybe someday. But if it rolls the same way as Animorphic Embers, then NMHC is the best place to farm them.

[SerOffline-Alot]

thanks.

[SerOffline-Alot]

Have you used the moon pets much? I have only had about 20 of them but they seem like a slightly worse version of ToTs with a lvl requirement that matches it(90 compared to 100). Got one on my EV with 400 Tower HP 700 Tower Damage and 700 Atk Rate. Seems like they are better than most treadmills for stats.

[SCE_Genesis985]

Dont forget that the moon pets give you a slight gravity modification

[🐇]

Glad to hear someone's using a moon :) Last patch they were level 100 and I didn't see very many people using them, so I suggested making them 90 to give them more of a niche.

The sea turtles are also 90, but they're very hard to farm for what they are. I haven't seen anyone using them yet, but they're a bit better than moons because they can hit 725 on spawn (upgrade cap is still 700) and they add a movement speed bonus.

The moon pet is 80% gravity and it multiplies, so a summoner with two has 64% gravity.

[SerOffline-Alot]

Originally posted by SCE_Genesis985:

Dont forget that the moon pets give you a slight gravity modification

It feels like there isn't a difference at all. it really is a slight mod isn't it.

I have a few that alright, but only 1 that is actually any good. They are cool and yea, you hardly ever see them.

[Demarki]

What does ToT stand for and how do you obtain it?

[SerOffline-Alot]

Originally posted by Demarki:

What does ToT stand for and how do you obtain it?

Treadmilll on a Treadmill, you get it from playing Moonbase on NMHC and getting 42 on the dance machine.

[RedKirby]

Is the moon soft cap 700 too or 650. I remember it being quite a bit worse than ToT which is why I never used it.

Is there a practical use for it though? I feel like maybe the low gravity effect could be made global to benefit other players. Then there would be reason to use it for its unique effect. Right now it feels like a slightly better Kobold.

[🐇]

The upgrade cap on moon is 700.

There are practical uses for low gravity, but not very many. It makes cheesing Silent Night on Barbarian slightly easier, for example. I agree it feels like a slightly better kobold at the moment.

[IDK]

Originally posted by Black Mambo № 5:

Best to worst(slightly updated):
1. ToT
2. Sea Turtle
3. Pirate Skelly (cap is 650 as opposed to 600 on Skelly)
4. Skelly
5. Kobold
6. Turtle
7. Giraffe

Your list seems a bit off in my opinion. I think it should look like this

1. ToT
.
.
.
.
.
.
995. Sea Turtle
996. Pirate Skelly (cap is 650 as opposed to 600 on Skelly)
997. Skelly
998. Kobold
999. Turtle
1000. Giraffe

[🐇]

Well, not everyone wants to grind every char to 100 . . .

[stealthkiller22]

i use moon pet on 2 of my builders and im around 6k lol