Lack of keys?

[Gujin]

Anyone else feel the same? It hasn't necessarily been hindering my progress so far, but it's definitely made things a lot harder when I'm skipping several floors worth of relics and items solely due to no key drops.

[Mr. Aqua]

The best way to get keys is in the shop. In the late game you'll have more keys than you know what to do with if you are rich and buy everything.

[GeminiEclipse]

Sometimes I get a poor early start with few keys/bombs, but it tends to pick up the lower I get because I have money to just buy everything in the shop.

Also unlocking more spots in the shop helps.

[omgilovesteak]

IM not sure about this game haha. I just started playing it and it seems everything needs a key?

[BahamaLlama]

Originally posted by omgilovesteak:

IM not sure about this game haha. I just started playing it and it seems everything needs a key?

Yeah, you'll come to realise that a lot of the game is kinda "blocked off" from you for a while when it comes to keys. Once you do a full run, it tends to pick up a little bit, but, it's still based on luck and RNG. I have some runs where I have 99 keys, and others where I don't see a key on 4+ floors (Except from the shop). I'm able to open most relic doors at least, but, if a shop is locked behind a door, it becomes a little harder in some runs.

[ViciousCareBear]

agree, this is a limiting factor, RNG is quite severe sometimes
and price of key is steep
we should be able to sell those when we have a lot no? tio compensate maybe...

we should prioritize at low key availability
for what its worth
it should be something like

use a key for relics is high priority (you get direct, importtant advantage of it)
use one for altar is low priority (you re going to get as much negative as positive, the final yield is mew)
use one for shop depends of the need for food. item availability in the shop depends on how you upgrade it, but you may not get back your key each time and its costly
use one for standard chest is low priority (the reward can be mediocre)
use one for a higher type of chest is high priority (at least you get the gold/thorium)

using several for a reward... well dont do that unless you bath in a key pool, biut that should be obvious.

another thing to take into account
bombs are more available than keys, in average

so in any situation where you can use a key or bomb to access something, prefer using bombs (unless you have much more keys wich is a rare sight)
in a situation where you can trade a bomb for a key, do it.
exemple : bombing rocks to acess key.

on a side note, if you can trade a bomb for a bomb, do it. the rocks may drop things like bushes and the like, so you may be better in the end. just dont bomb yourself please.

[Davez0r]

i mean its a chance thing, and as you progress and unlock more of the content in the game it becomes less of a problem, as there are relics and potions that can offset this (use a key gain a key, common items duplicate when dropped, average keys and bombs, locks cost health instead of keys, swap items) hell, i just finished a run with 72 keys and 60 something bombs at the end