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Kreidol Jan 7, 2018 @ 8:58am

How is this game different from Ghost of a Tale?

I'd like to understand how this game is different from Ghost of a Tale? The game synopsis, character choices (mice and rats), and even the character styles and such are very similar. I'm probably not going to buy this yet, since the videos don't show any real gameplay. But, I'd still like to know what the game and game goals are like.

Last edited by Kreidol; Jan 7, 2018 @ 9:36am

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Mutilatedpuppet has The Lost Legends of Redwall: The Scout Act 1

Jan 7, 2018 @ 9:31am

Because this is based on a book series that started in 1986. If anything, Ghost of a Tale was inspired by the Redwall series.

Last edited by Mutilatedpuppet; Jan 7, 2018 @ 9:38am

Kreidol Jan 7, 2018 @ 9:33am

Originally posted by Mutilatedpuppet:
Because this is based on a book series that started in the 1980s. If anything, Ghost of a Tale was inspired by the Redwall series.

Oh it definitely was. So they just coincidentally came out around the same time? Trippy. Can you tell me anything about the gameplay though?

Mutilatedpuppet has The Lost Legends of Redwall: The Scout Act 1

Jan 7, 2018 @ 9:37am

I'm not a developer, but I've been following this game and haven't played Ghost of a Tale myself to be honest, but the Redwall game was first pictured years ago, possibly before Ghost of a Tale started developement. For more info on that, you can search for the Redwall game Kickstarter website and read the updates, which gives more of a timeline of development.

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Somagames [developer] Jan 8, 2018 @ 11:08am

Hi Kreidol - I don't know a LOT about the development history of Ghost of a Tale but It looks as though they got off to a good running start ahead of us, and frankly it looks really great. :)
I am told, as Mutilatedpuppet indicated, that GoaT was inspired by Redwall and as far as I can tell features similar overall gameplay but I'm reading between the lines here.

Karter Blackpaw has The Lost Legends of Redwall: The Scout Act 1

Jan 8, 2018 @ 5:11pm

Originally posted by Kreidol:
Originally posted by Mutilatedpuppet:
Because this is based on a book series that started in the 1980s. If anything, Ghost of a Tale was inspired by the Redwall series.
Oh it definitely was. So they just coincidentally came out around the same time? Trippy. Can you tell me anything about the gameplay though?

Ghost of a Tale is a pseudo stealth and puzzle kind of adventure game that's been out for well over a year now through early access. Though it's not a pure puzzle kind of game like say Portal or anything geared towards that. It has puzzles that feel more like they're there as a means to get to the next part of the story then being put there to force you jump through hoops to continue. Some "puzzles" in Ghost of a Tale can have multiple ways to bypass them. Need to get information on something specific? Spend some money to loosen somebody's tongue, find the information on your own, disguise yourself to trick others into thinking you're very important, do some pseudo blackmailing to irritate somebody, or perhaps just do a favor for a favor in return to get the help you need. So most of the puzzles there don't feel railroaded for the most part. And when I first mentioned it being a stealth game, they put an emphasis that you're not exactly a character that can defend themselves (well), so trying to outrun your pursuer and hide like in Outlast is your best bet. Though you can do some defending on your own by using some enviornmental items to slow them down or knock'em out. Found an empty bottle, well grab that to use it as a distraction or chuck it at a hostile person's head to put them to sleep for a bit. I'd reccomend looking up some gameplay videos of the game so you can get a bit of a better understanding of how it all works since the game is growing and getting bigger and more refined with it's large bi-monthly updates. For now in the most basic of explanations i'd say it's like a hybrid of the stealth in Outlast and some puzzle working with multiple ways to figure them out from RPG's like Divinity Original Sin 2.

For the Redwall game, this game is so extremely underbaked at the moment that it feels like a tech demo of what they would like to put into the game. So for this Redwall game I can't give you a broader definition of what the game is asides my review of it since there just isn't enough content right now. The one forest area that the game has right now has puzzles that feel a bit restrictive since it forces you to complete them in one specific way despite appearing to be something you could figure out in a much easier sense in a variety of differnt ways.

Last edited by Karter Blackpaw; Jan 8, 2018 @ 5:15pm

PEEPEEP Jan 8, 2018 @ 9:20pm

Originally posted by Mutilatedpuppet:
Because this is based on a book series that started in 1986. If anything, Ghost of a Tale was inspired by the Redwall series.

tghost of a tale is inspired by the secret of nimh. seith actually worked on that project back in the day.

Somagames [developer] Jan 9, 2018 @ 12:20pm

Originally posted by Electrics:
tghost of a tale is inspired by the secret of nimh. seith actually worked on that project back in the day.

Really? That's a cool bit of lore...I'd never heard that.
LOVED Nimh!

PEEPEEP Jan 9, 2018 @ 1:11pm

Originally posted by Somagames:
Originally posted by Electrics:
tghost of a tale is inspired by the secret of nimh. seith actually worked on that project back in the day.

Really? That's a cool bit of lore...I'd never heard that.
LOVED Nimh!

ya hes a veteran animator and worked on projects like : The Prince of Egypt, The Road to El Dorado, SharkTale, and more recently Despicable me, where he served as animation director. part of the reason why the game looks so ridiculously beautiful.

he says he takes inspiration from ico zelda etc, and in the game youre trying to find youre wife merra. Other than the fact that it follows a mouse in medival times it has little to do with redwall.

hes kind of a big deal haha. you can read a lot about it on the ghost of a tale forum. Ive talked with him few times hes a pretty down to earth person.

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Kreidol Mar 10, 2018 @ 10:12am

Originally posted by Karter Blackpaw:
For the Redwall game, this game is so extremely underbaked at the moment that it feels like a tech demo of what they would like to put into the game. So for this Redwall game I can't give you a broader definition of what the game is asides my review of it since there just isn't enough content right now. The one forest area that the game has right now has puzzles that feel a bit restrictive since it forces you to complete them in one specific way despite appearing to be something you could figure out in a much easier sense in a variety of differnt ways.

Bummer. Well, I hope they develop it more soon. Looking forward to exploring both worlds in full!

Mr. Blue Sky Sep 15, 2018 @ 11:03am

Ghost of a Tale feels a lot like Zelda Windwaker in the opening dungeon with stealth and not combat; moving from place to place finding keys and objects to help you unlock other areas of the game

Just going by reseach on this game it looks less pretty but a lot longer
Current sale price for this is very generous and if the game remains this easily affordable, on and off, I'm sure to grab it in the near future.

I didn't realize until now that NIMH was part of Redwall but I guess we can easily say that Seith is another mouse fan. ha ha

Last edited by Mr. Blue Sky; Sep 15, 2018 @ 11:04am

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Mr. Blue Sky Sep 15, 2018 @ 11:12am

Have also noticed this story is a bit different as if the rats have just freshly taken over.

In GoaT you're a male mouse bard and you've been locked in a dungeon for sleeping around with the Baron's wife (if I read right). The goal of GoaT is to find her and escape with the help from a couple or arch-rats and brother / sister thief team who you also free.

Last edited by Mr. Blue Sky; Sep 15, 2018 @ 11:13am

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