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They are not equivalent either as like I said the mississippi is a rifled musket and has basically double the range of the smoothbore 1842 springfield. These are different rifles
45th NY with 1841 US Mississippi had saber bayonets, which look like this one.https://deadconfederates.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/masonsislandsoldier.png
so it was a 1841 mississippi .54, till it became a 1841 Mississippi rifle musket when re bored and changed to sword bayonet for NY troops raised in 61/62.
Echoes of Glory: Arms And Equipment Of The Union, U.S. Model 1841 rifle
“Originially fabricated in .54 caliber, this regulation percussion arm was rerifled to the new Federal standard of .58 caliber and refitted with a long-range sight. Nearly 5,000 of the rifles, named for a regiment of Mexican War volunteers, were altered at the Harpers Ferry Armory from 1855 to 1860.”
U.S. Model 1841 rifle, Remington Alteration.
“E. Remington & Son, a private armsmaker in Herkimer, New York, rebored 6,000 of these Mississippi rifles from a .54 to .58 caliber and attached lugs for saber bayonets under a Federal government contract let early in the War.
As i already posted in post number 1 and 3, the mississippi is the US model 1841 Rifle, when in Northern service, to which you correctly claim the 1842 is a different weapon, its also not a Mississippi and has nothing to do with what i posted.
Only you have mentioned the 1842, which is not a Mississippi, and could be either rifled or smoothbore, and lastly yes there were smoothbore Mississippi musket, Whitney and othjers, made them.
I can find no evidence that these weapons were made smoothbore, I see where they were rebored to smoothbore post war for a variety of reasons. I do see that whitney also made the model 1842 smoothbore. However the model 1841/mississippi rifle was a rifled musket.
my post was why only the CSA has access to mississippi/1841 model and not the USA when there is historical evidence they used them. There is currently no 1841 model weapon called mississippi or other wise available to union forces. In game these are rifled weapons with a range of 500 yds. There is no union equivalent to this weapon as there is currently only 1 springfield rifled musket in game which I believe is the 1861 due to the bayonet.
Honestly I just thought you typo'd the year since I had always seen the weapon referred to as a Mississippi rifle regardless of side. so that is my bad
15th Ala was the formation under Oats that fought 20th Maine at Round Top, it was partly equipped from firearms taken from Mount Vernon armoury when Ala left the union, we have the report of those arms and type, 17,370 and Gov Moore to R E lee correspondence of transfer of weapons to the 15th, these were enough for 2 Coys only for its camp of instruction and they were Mississippi rifles converted by the National armoury.
2 coys had Mississippi rifled muskets, 9 companies were equipped with George law muskets, (https://img7.newspapers.com/clip/48333929/report-on-the-george-law-muskets/ ) these were condemend 1842 smoothbores, converted by G Law in NY in 1849-1861 to rifles from smoothbores with back sights and purchased by J Powel for Ala, which issued them to its units, after some dispute as to there servicability. Law was a interesting fella, he contracted with the US Government in 49 to purchase 144k obsolete 1842 smoothbores and rifle them, but had converted and payed for under 30k of them.
USA Mississippi on hand rifles in Northern State Arsenals as 40,665 in Oct 1860.
Later in 61 the 15th was issued with UK Enfields, manufactured by Robins and lawrence in Vermont, under UK licence, these were bought from Vermont by Ala purchasing agent, seized by US custom officials on Jan 21 and impounded in transit at NY, these 28 casses of 560 enfields were then released, and March 15th arrived for use, and sent to 15th Ala.
Full term was rifled musket, this applies to any smoothbore musket that is then converted by coring the existing barrel ( which may be different number of bands) to produce rifling, this term applied to 1841 and earlier models, it applies to 1855 and later models ( that were not banded) despite the barrels stating out as being rifiled as the rest of the firearm was still using musket features, not much help if your new rifled barrel is still sighted as a smoothbore. In both 1849 and 1855 Congress passed a new law to arm the militia with rifled muskets, to replace the existing militia acts that provided for smoothbores. When congress authorised the upgraded conversion it enters into contracts with private companies to sell the old models ( Army decides what it wants converted or scrapped and how many its arsenals can convert rest goes out to tender|) who convert for a fixed price and return to the Arsenals, they stay at arsenals till then, so as to be issued to the militia if required, ie could not be converted by others, and the problem was there was still so many there when war came, so you have to look at how many of the same termed weapon was converted or not, some firearms went through life as a smoothbore muskets, converted to .54 rifle, then .58 rifle etc.
American Military Shoulder Arms, Volume III: Flintlock Alterations and Muzzleloading Percussion Shoulder Arms, 1840-1865: has the full proper term for the firearms and how it evolves from musket to rifle musket, and how many were converted and when if you really want to trace the linguistics of why so many variants of the 1841 became know, ie all the different conversion of the same 1841 smoothbore became known as “Mississippi rifle,” “Windsor rifle,” “Harpers Ferry rifle,” “Whitney rifle,” “Remington rifle” and “Yaeger rifle,” as they all converted slightly differntly by different manufacturers, to produce what the US Army had adopted as the new standard firearm. See post 3 for some examples.
At the National level it requires congress to legislate the new pattern firearm for the militia. At state level, its more complicated, ( Pa as an example regarded in 1861 the .54 converted Mississippi musket to be unsuitable for field service and issued smoothbore over them and held them for conversion to .58, i suspect this was logistical concern )Dec 1846 Col Talcot wrote to the Gov of Mississippi to inform him that against the Gov instruction to use smoothbore for the war with Mexico, he had instead from State arsenal at Baton rouge issued 363 rifled muskets instead with authorisation from the War department to J Davis regiment for service, it performed well , known now as the Mississippi rifle nation wide, although already adopted for use.
From American Military Shoulder Arms, Volume III: Flintlock Alterations and Muzzleloading Percussion Shoulder Arms, 1840-1865 which has the data for every state but Pa is a good example.
August 1841 the head of the US ordinace Dep ( Bomford) wrotes to the AJ of PA to inform him that the state will now be furnished with US 1841 rifle muskets to replace its smoothbore as per legislation passed by congress. private contracts ( K Tyrone) were awarded by the State as national production of the new firearms was not ready yet, see HF table of production of 1841 rifle muskets for all arsenals to be equipped from.
PA 1860 reports it has 19000 firearms in its Arsenals, of which 4706 were rifled, of which 1200 were converted from smoothbore muskets of .54 bore to .58, the rest were 1841/2 and earlier smoothbore muskets.
PA May 1861 contracts H leman in PA to convert its smoothbores to rifled Muskets, in 1861 he completed and converted for use, 11,266, in 1862, 3,768, and 1863, 2,513 to complet the contract.
Harpers Ferry 1841( not yet known as Mississippi) rifle musket production.
1845 1
1846 700
1847 3,054
1848 2,802
1849 1,925
1850 2,656
1851 3,050
1852 3,227
1853 2,762
1854 2,671
1855 2,339
6 June 1860 State of Mississippi again contracted with E Whiney for 1500 modern rifled muskets, with sabre bayonets and initial deliveries arrived in Oct and were examined and found to be 1841 smoothbores converted to rifles with back sights and bayonets, Mississipi refused delivery and payment of the rest of the order as thats not what they had contracted for.