Seagulls

[Pain Weasel]

Can anyone confirm if the issue with seagulls flying through walls was ever fixed? I've seen conflicting reports on that one and I haven't started a new game in a long time so all my current saves have layouts that were safe when the old 8 tile rule applied. Before I build a new raft larger than needed I figured I'd see if that was fixed.

I did some testing on a tiny raft and they didn't appear to attack indoor crops unless I left the door open, regardless of how many other vegetation plots I had around, but my test was less than scientific (build plots, wait).

The seagulls also didn't seem to attack through open windows which seems odd. Does anyone know for sure if windows are safe?

Lastly, what about closed rooms with a hole in the roof for pipes? They didn't seem to attack those either but I didn't really test for that long because I got bored and I decided to ask rather than waste time testing.

Any info would be appreciated.

[Zentun]

The seagulls is my only rant about this game, they always fly through my walls to attack my crops, i had my bee hives and a few crops with flowers and the seagulls never attacked it, i built a second floor above my bees and now the seagulls attack my crops all the time.

I just hope devs fix this before the full release, seagulls is an inssue since they were added to the game.

[Skeletorn]

Originally posted by Zentun:

The seagulls is my only rant about this game, they always fly through my walls to attack my crops, i had my bee hives and a few crops with flowers and the seagulls never attacked it, i built a second floor above my bees and now the seagulls attack my crops all the time.

I just hope devs fix this before the full release, seagulls is an inssue since they were added to the game.

Keep your animals and crops away from each other and build a platform and place your crops in a building and they should not do it. That's how I fixed it.

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by Zentun:

The seagulls is my only rant about this game, they always fly through my walls to attack my crops, i had my bee hives and a few crops with flowers and the seagulls never attacked it, i built a second floor above my bees and now the seagulls attack my crops all the time.

I just hope devs fix this before the full release, seagulls is an inssue since they were added to the game.

Maybe some good news then, because it looks like it may be fixed.

I started a new game and tested out the seagull behavior and they no longer appear to fly through walls, even if you have crops planted outside near the indoor area. I have been unable to get them to attack the indoor crops at all, unless I leave the door open. I even tried it with a window and they wouldn't attack the indoor crops.

I tested it with small, medium and large plots with a variety of plants in them, as well as grass plots, placed directly next to or on top of the enclosed flower room. Previously any of that would have triggered an attack through the wall. So far the flowers have remained untouched for 20+ in game days.

[MartyS]

Just did some testing today and found something interesting.

I built a giant raft with a huge enclosed room on the 2nd floor, with a large platform in the middle of the room. On the floor of the huge room I put large and small growers, grass plots, beehives with flowers, trees in the large growers and vegetables in the small ones. Even with the doors open no seagulls attacked (doors were pretty far from the small plots). Some of the small growers with flowers were placed on walls under windows and still no attacks.

Then I placed some empty medium growers on the platform in the middle of the huge room and even with the doors closed the seagulls attacked through the walls. Removed everything from the platform, restarted the save and no more attacks even with doors open.

So, the bug seems to be triggered any time a grower is placed higher than another grower, even if both are fully enclosed inside multiple walls and roofs.

[Menzagitat]

Originally posted by MartyS:

So, the bug seems to be triggered any time a grower is placed higher than another grower, even if both are fully enclosed inside multiple walls and roofs.

Interesting!
That means restarting the game stops the attacks?

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by MartyS:

Just did some testing today and found something interesting.

I built a giant raft with a huge enclosed room on the 2nd floor, with a large platform in the middle of the room. On the floor of the huge room I put large and small growers, grass plots, beehives with flowers, trees in the large growers and vegetables in the small ones. Even with the doors open no seagulls attacked (doors were pretty far from the small plots). Some of the small growers with flowers were placed on walls under windows and still no attacks.

Then I placed some empty medium growers on the platform in the middle of the huge room and even with the doors closed the seagulls attacked through the walls. Removed everything from the platform, restarted the save and no more attacks even with doors open.

So, the bug seems to be triggered any time a grower is placed higher than another grower, even if both are fully enclosed inside multiple walls and roofs.

I came to more or less the same conclusion last night.

I started a new game yesterday and built a raft with an enclosed room for my flowers on the first floor. I had grass plots next to the room, and another small plot outside the room so I could get feathers from killing the seagull although I didn't keep planting in that one. On the second floor I put my beehives directly over the enclosed room. I'm perfectly OK with beehives (and sprinklers) working through walls by the way.

I was able to play all the way up to Tangaroa without a single attack on my enclosed flowers. However, before entering Tangaroa I moved my grass plots to the 3rd floor in preparation for getting the water purifier and water pipes. When I came back from exploring Tangaroa my flowers were gone and after replanting I watched a seagull fly through the wall after them. I moved the grass plots back down to the first floor and the glitching stopped.

When the grass plots were on the same level even if they were directly next to the enclosed room, no glitching seagulls. When the grass plots were above the enclosed room, glitching seagulls appear.

Basically my conclusion was that the old 8 tile rule is no longer necessary but there is a vertical restriction now. I guess they fixed half the bug.

[Nyoro~n]

Everything you need to know about protecting your crops from Seagulls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkNEZVkxMR0&t=30s

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by Strawberry Lovebunny:

Everything you need to know about protecting your crops from Seagulls:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkNEZVkxMR0&t=30s

That isn't really valid any longer, it is nearly 1 year old and things have evidently changed since then. That video is where the 8 tile rule came from, but that is no longer the case. It appears that you CAN place those trigger items near the greenhouse just not above the greenhouse.

[Pain Weasel]

Originally posted by Menzagitat:

Originally posted by MartyS:

So, the bug seems to be triggered any time a grower is placed higher than another grower, even if both are fully enclosed inside multiple walls and roofs.

Interesting!
That means restarting the game stops the attacks?

Unfortunately not, I believe the key part was that he removed everything before the restart, not the restart itself. I just tested it without removing the plots on top and even after restart the seagulls attacked.

The good news is that it seems the only trigger now is having a grow plot above the greenhouse. Previously if a grow plot was anywhere near it the seagulls attacked. I tested it out with plots placed next to and under the greenhouse and the seagulls never attacked. As soon as I put a plot above the greenhouse the nasty little birds attacked through the wall. When I removed that higher elevation plot, no more attacks.

That being said, you can place grow plots above the greenhouse, as long as they are far enough away, so maybe the 8-tile rule still applies but only to grow plots placed above the greenhouse.

[MartyS]

Yes, the restart only stopped the attacks after I removed the plots that were higher than all the others. I only mentioned it because after I removed the plots the attacks continued, wasn't until I exited and restarted that they stopped.

The experiment ship I built was looking good so I've been outfitting it more. Recently learned of the trick with triangular floors that lets you remove supports, building wide open rooms really looks nice.

[Pain Weasel]

I had something odd happen with my test raft. Seagulls absolutely wouldn't attack any crops I put on walls or hanging from the ceiling, even if they were out in the open surrounded by plots that would normally trigger an attack.

A new raft with nothing but a single wall with a small plot hanging on it, and a simple purifier for water. I didn't even need an enclosed room. They would attack plots I put on the ground, just not on the walls, unless I put a grow plot on the floor above them. Even when I put a large plot with a tree and some dirt right next to it the seagulls never touched the hanging crops. That feels like a bug, but at least it is a helpful one.